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By Gaff - 27/07/2011 11:32:25 PM
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I am the head coach of the Outlaws and, before a whole bunch of shit talk starts, I just want to pipe in and say 2 things:
1) regardless of numbers etc, i want to thank the firebirds and head coach Willis for offering to host us for a pre-season scrimmage. It will be a bigh help in our preparation for our 2k11 season and is appreciated.
2) I DO NOT advocate my players talking shit on forums and for any of the outlaws who feel they want to start, enjoy the bench... (Though, we all know that it is likely that it was some other trouble maker who doesnt even play for us trying to Troll)
If it was one of my guys, I appologies on my teams behalf.
Coach Gaffey
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By Gaff - 8/09/2011 2:30:45 AM
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instead of all the time spent on here, you could always spend 30 seconds doing this:
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=key+linebacker+skills+-+beating+the+cut+block
you cant change the game...but you can learn better techniques and be better than the other guy. Just sayin
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By Gaff - 8/09/2011 3:50:24 AM
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I guess my point is this:
If you learn the best tech you can and know how to beat a cutblock, you wont find yourself getting caught by it or getting hurt because YOU are better prepared. Most times the person cutting isnt very good at it and is likely using it as a last resort because they cant block you any other way. Hell I had to use it against Fady a million times in my playing days (and i paid the heavy price of pissing him off and stepping all over me if i got it wrong)
outlawing something that everyone else who plays the sport (nationally and internationionally) just puts you (or your state or your country) one more step behind everyone else who uses the techniques available to them to their best advantage.
If the NCAA / NFL / IFAF / whoever else governs the sport ban it... then fair enough.
Bullrush - if you are as good as you say you are, learn the way to beat a cut block and watch your stat count explode (or alternatively, dont .. and keep whining about it and your sore knees).
I'm not advocating (nor am i talking about) the chicken shit diving at the knees to injure someone method that some people use. If people are doing that, your officials should be punting them off the field.
its just my opinion, so dont get all steamed about it
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By Playmaker - 3/08/2011 7:41:01 PM
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Gaff (27/07/2011)
r any of the outlaws who feel they want to start, enjoy the bench... (Though, we all know that it is likely that it was some other trouble maker who doesnt even play for us trying to Troll)
If it was one of my guys, I appologies on my teams behalf.
Coach Gaffey
Highly doubt someone from another team would come to troll.
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By Playmaker - 23/09/2011 2:53:37 AM
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Reading this to keep up with my old Astros teammates and it sucks to hear they still have small numbers.
Ever play football in the heat, it's like death and you will lose players for sure and small teams like the Astros will die out fast. I remember the year and a bit I was there for at the start of the season with our small numbers and it still being semi cool we were able to play both ways and keep up, as the season went into hotter days it felt like hell trying to play.
When you play in heat with all that gear. both ways and special teams its easy to get injured as you tend to not pound your feet all day and plant for longer.
Read a bit about cut blocking here too, run under control and you won't get cut. Its the idiots who rush balls out with no body control who take a good cut and cry.
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By Ado #39 - 23/09/2011 6:42:26 AM
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When I began playing in Perth we played through the worst of summer (with a break for Xmas) finishing early Feb I think ... it was a while ago! I see that their current schedule has a similar looking timeframe. Perth does have the fabled Fremantle Doctor sweep in in the afternoon - it helps.
Now, I'm not saying playing in the heat is easy - we're talking about a winter sport - but the heat IS manageable. If, and only if, we were sure that starting later in the year would increase numbers, we shouldn't discount this solely on the temperature. BUT, we'd need to be creative with local procedures...introduce water breaks the refs can call when they feel appropriate (as we do now on particularly hot days), ensure someone is actively looking for heat stress for all teams, etc.
As a more general point, it would be very refreshing to see more constructive discussion on this forum and less of the narkiness. We should be pulling together to further the sport, not acting like a rabble and treading water. How many people do you speak to around Canberra and they say "Oh, I didn't know they played gridiron here"? I'm sick of hearing it!
Adrian
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By Ado #39 - 23/09/2011 7:42:52 PM
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Sean, you're not reading the stats quite right (lies, damn lies and statistics!).
Average maximum daily temp in Nov is 22.7, highest recorded 38.9.
Average maiximum daily temp in Dec is 26.1, highest recorded 39.2.
Use BoM, from the horses mouth so to speak.
Broadly speaking, we shouldn't be looking at this as what is good or bad for the Astros, or uni students, or even the mythical players from other codes. First check box should be what is good for the league. That's constantly our problem, we spend so much time looking narrowly at our own immediate situation that no-one seems to be concerned with the bigger picture.
Take the roller derby league. They started in Canberra 2 years ago, now fill a 1200 seat stadium at $10 a head for their regular bouts, and come close to filling Canberra Indoor Stadium at $20 (I think) for their special bouts and finals. Bouts are broadcast on ChannelVision. Sure, skimpily clad women belting each other has a special kind of appeal (does to me anyway!) but behind the game day glam they have a group of players/coaches/administrators that are all working in one direction.
Adrian
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By Ginger - 12/07/2011 10:55:26 PM
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Word on the street is that the Gladiators are going to open a breakfast bar because they have poaching very successfully in the off season! 
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By Ginger - 2/09/2011 7:03:57 PM
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Did anyone happen to see the lone Firebird doing a full lap of the oval after their game last week? 
The punishment for letting the other team score is pretty harsh at the Uni camp! LOL
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By Ginger - 6/09/2011 10:38:54 PM
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Before anyone comments any further they should watch this comprehensive video on 'blocking below the waist' which is the legal definition of cut blocking according to the rules of NCAA. Cut blocking is not to be confused with Chop blocking where any offensive player who makes a high block, which is also accompanied by a low block at the thigh or below, regardless of the order. About 95 percent of chop blocks occur on the interior line immediately when the ball is snapped. These are two separate types of blocks. One -blocking below the waist or cut blocks ->is legal (with parameters) the other - chop blocks -> are illegal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOppOpJBN44
In my opinion (my 2 cents) blocking below the waist should NOT be banned. Its a part of the sport and sometimes a necessary tool for offensive linemen. If you don’t want contact, go play hopscotch. As far as i know, blocking below the waist is not banned at national level and this cause issues with juniors several years ago where the coaches hadnt taught it at all (including how to defend against the cut block).
Its the bad coaching and the inexperienced player that causes bad technique and will lead to injuries not the block itself. If done correctly, most players should land flat on their face taken out of the play completely unharmed.
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By Ginger - 12/09/2011 7:53:34 AM
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@Bullrush
If you want your own history lesson, I fully answered your question on the ruling TWO HOURS after you asked it. I even posted a YouTube video. Did you watch it? It explained who can cut block (or NCAA definition called "blocking below the waist") and who cant cut block. It also shows which direction players can or cant cut block in.
You should really have a look at this link if you're still confused:
NCAA 2011/2012 rulebook
Ginger (6/09/2011)
Before anyone comments any further they should watch this comprehensive video on 'blocking below the waist' which is the legal definition of cut blocking according to the rules of NCAA. Cut blocking is not to be confused with Chop blocking where any offensive player who makes a high block, which is also accompanied by a low block at the thigh or below, regardless of the order. About 95 percent of chop blocks occur on the interior line immediately when the ball is snapped. These are two separate types of blocks. One -blocking below the waist or cut blocks ->is legal (with parameters) the other - chop blocks -> are illegal. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOppOpJBN44
Yet you still continue to argue about it 4 days later... 
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By Ginger - 27/09/2011 3:27:35 AM
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Flemdog23 (26/09/2011)
And just for a final thought, I don't think there have been any players in the past 3 years that have been ejected more than once in a season? Correct me if I'm wrong... I do agree with more than a "smack on the wrist" for players being ejected more than once, but from what I've been told, noone has been tossed more than twice in the season..
Wasnt #99 for the Glads ejected twice last season for fighting and once this season for the same thing?
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By Ginger - 14/10/2011 7:26:09 PM
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SmashMouth (13/10/2011)
Why is it that the trygridiron.com.au website that is currently being advertised on TV during NFL games only mentions 4 of the 6 ACT teams?
Wildcats and Gladiators have been excluded for some strange reason. Maybe ACTG thinks these teams don't need to recruit as much as the others?
Even stranger, the ACT section is the only one that lists teams - the section for every other state links to their state league website.
Anyone got any interesting conspiracy theories behind this?
Read this thread:
http://www.thebear.com.au/Topic23163.aspx
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By Ginger - 19/10/2011 1:56:39 AM
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Hey Chimp, you forgot to write about the funny moment where the Gladiators caused a TD to be turned over because he (Duncan maybe? Not sure, it was on the far side of the field) dove into the endzone celebrating too early! 
An example of the rule in NCAA
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By Ginger - 8/11/2011 11:09:31 PM
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sonicboom (8/11/2011)
Shakespeare. Yes it is very easy to criticise referees. You know what makes it even easier? When the head of referees in Australia is at the game along with the Australian Head Coach and they say that the standard of refereeing was terrible. They even went as far as to say it was one of the worst diplays they had seen. Makes it very easy to criticise I think
And where exactly did you hear that?? Until I see something official from them, I would consider this statement as pure BS! Plus Ive seen refs from other states and it definately cant be the worst they have seen! LOL
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By milehigh - 29/07/2011 7:48:49 PM
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A few good hit outs for this weekend coming up in Canberra. Forecast is for a nice Sunny 15 degrees. Sounds like perfect football weather to me. I think (not 100% sure) that these are all the pre season games: UC Firebirds v Penrith Outlaws Astros v Sutherland Seahawks Centurions v Gungahlin Wildcats It's great having some interleague matches between ACT and NSW. Variety is the spice of life. In other news the Astros and Centurions have come out with new website designs for the season. http://www.centurionsgridiron.com http://www.astrosgridiron.com.au/
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By milehigh - 16/08/2011 1:36:36 AM
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Taking a year off Chimp? I guessed as much with your semi detachment from the league this year.
Paris Will...I like it very witty made me actually laugh out loud while I was sitting in the uni library.
I am looking forward to the season as it should be a bit more balanced than recent years although I still expect Uni to win it comfortably. I just feel that the team they beat in the Grand Final could honestly be anyone!
Look forward to the preview.
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By milehigh - 7/09/2011 2:18:51 AM
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Bullrush (6/09/2011)
So we woudn't want youth players to do it "because a cut block lends itself to an increase and severity in knee injuries" but it's OK to do it when you're bigger, stronger and probably heavier??
Errrr....right. And no disrespect but I would consider the ACTG probably closer in quality to the youth competitions in the States than the NCAA or NFL.
Yes, you can get injured doing any number of things in football but again "a cut block lends itself to an increase and severity in knee injuries"
Probably similiar reasons why we banned spear tackles.....
And, Yes. If you do something that lends itself to me getting a severe injury because I am bigger or faster or you have poor technique and therefore you succumb to the temptation to attack a fairly vulnerable body part - I will pick that thing out.
Surely if your technique is better you will not be effectively cut? I understand the argument, but its already only allowed strictly by players within the tackle box and not at all on special teams. I feel that is a sufficient safeguard. I do think maybe chop blocking should be examined closely for repeat offenders. Even this year there are some people who seem to be repeat offenders. Maybe a one game ban after 3-5 chop blocks? Too extreme...maybe. I have seen numerous people try to cut some of the best DL in this league over the years and they usually fail. Why, because they have a well rounded game and can beat it. Cameron is a good example of this.
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By milehigh - 7/09/2011 2:29:24 AM
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Bullrush (6/09/2011)
milehigh (6/09/2011)
Bullrush (6/09/2011)
So we woudn't want youth players to do it "because a cut block lends itself to an increase and severity in knee injuries" but it's OK to do it when you're bigger, stronger and probably heavier??
Errrr....right. And no disrespect but I would consider the ACTG probably closer in quality to the youth competitions in the States than the NCAA or NFL.
Yes, you can get injured doing any number of things in football but again "a cut block lends itself to an increase and severity in knee injuries"
Probably similiar reasons why we banned spear tackles.....
And, Yes. If you do something that lends itself to me getting a severe injury because I am bigger or faster or you have poor technique and therefore you succumb to the temptation to attack a fairly vulnerable body part - I will pick that thing out. Surely if your technique is better you will not be effectively cut? I understand the argument, but its already only allowed strictly by players within the tackle box and not at all on special teams. I feel that is a sufficient safeguard. I do think maybe chop blocking should be examined closely for repeat offenders. Even this year there are some people who seem to be repeat offenders. Maybe a one game ban after 3-5 chop blocks? Too extreme...maybe. I have seen numerous people try to cut some of the best DL in this league over the years and they usually fail. Why, because they have a well rounded game and can beat it. Cameron is a good example of this. Yeah....I'm pretty new to D-Line so I'll get better at beating it but I just think it's got the potential to really screw someone up and having someone want to risk that on me has pissed me right off. I think it's outside the spirit of the game TBH.
I do agree at the amateur level cheap shots and some of the things people do is very questionable for a weekend sport. Some cheap shots on the weekend i felt were unnecessary and only designed for physical harm off the ball. It's a tough thing as I agree it probably isn't great for player safety, but I love the fact that a more technically sound player can overcome a size mismatch. Coach Hollywood is right though...a coach has a responsibility to teach his players first and foremost how to protect yourselves against a cut block. Using it is well and truly up to each team.
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By milehigh - 7/09/2011 2:46:44 AM
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Hail to the Chimp (6/09/2011)
Milehigh
In regards to Cam being a good player at beating a cut block, from what I've seen he is also a nice guy as he lets the poor o-lineman lying facedown know he's failed by giggling as he runs towards the back of the QB and levels him.
Cheers
Chimp
Believe me...I know!
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By milehigh - 27/08/2011 12:08:07 AM
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Well I know one member of the Gladiators knows who the chimp is, so that could be why. Once you lose the anonyminity it might be less fun to pay certain people out
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By milehigh - 27/08/2011 12:50:36 AM
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If I had a Centurions jacket I would wear it, but I choose to stay warm.
I was actually quite pleased with how my guys did thank you.Also the person in question doesn't just 'have a hunch'. In the words of Dennis Green "They were who we thought they were!"
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By jake_the_snake_plummer - 6/08/2011 8:34:54 PM
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So with the season fast approaching and all teams having a crack at a few pre season games, some with NSW teams hows everyone looking for round one of the ACT senior season ??
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By Aruvin - 23/09/2011 5:20:25 PM
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Hi Bull Rush,
Normally I don't like to post on the bear because there's a lot of bravado and machoism that happens here but I think this is an important discussion.
I remember preseason training in 40 degree heat in melbourne and its not pleasant at all!(Maybe because I am a D linemen). So I think the performance of players, and ability to cope with the heat will actually make for bad games, especially with the pads and helmet and all the other stuff we wear. I also recognise that Canberra probably won't get as warm but it is still an issue.
Secondly, Victoria's season actually starts much earlier, we have our preseason in February and from memory(Playmaker correct me if I'm wrong) the season kicks off end of May? They finished up a few weeks ago. So despite rugby not being as popular down there, you have to make the choice of playing rugby or gridiron, you can't do both in Melbourne.
And if it doesn't help the astros, as many say on this forum, I don't think we should do it. Particularly as it affects so many uni students but also when you finish in december, you probably have lost a lot of people who have planned holidays and so forth for the end of the year.
Just my thoughts.
Aruvin
PS: Chimp, getting a bit more controversial this week?
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By wally - 6/09/2011 10:41:59 PM
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I don't think it should be band it is an effective and legal block. We had some rookies on the weekend who experienced a cut block during a game for the first time, they came back telling us they didn't actually think people would do it to them. As we had taught them how to defend against the cut block they were able to defeat it. My point is if your players know how to beat/protect against the cut block then there is no reason to ban it
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By wally - 7/09/2011 12:50:25 AM
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@ Bullrush,
Sorry mate that was sent from my iPhone so it got auto corrected. Anyway if all you can do is pick out someone's typo you're argument really doesn't have any legs to stand on 
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By wally - 7/09/2011 2:51:58 AM
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It seems it is fairly even when it comes to the people for the cut block and the people against the cut block!
Myself I am wondering how many people have been injured from a cut block in this league? As I don't think the league has any collective data on this, How about we do a quick test/survey, if you have been injured(missed a game) that you know was a result from a cut block reply a post that just says "yes".
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By wally - 15/09/2011 10:02:42 PM
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Hey Pete,
I think you should pull out some of those trick plays your famous for  , like the triple reverse run middle. If you don't like that play maybe the counter toss right run middle or option left B gap dive. 
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By wally - 15/09/2011 10:06:47 PM
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One more. "The Westcombe Special" Scramble back 40 yards throw ball dead 
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By wally - 24/09/2011 1:41:49 AM
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I think to improve the league and get more players we need to increase interest in the sport overall. The problem with watching games is that they are boring. Not a relection on the quality of play in the league but unless you are an avid football fan it is a dull sport to watch, especially with all the breaks taking place. Also, I know a lot of people (my wife included) who have sat there and watched wondering why the refs are through yellow things on the field, what the 3 chumps on the far side are doing with those poles etc. etc. (To her credit, she has learnt what all these things mean and now enjoys watching) To improve people rocking up to watch, you need to do it in two ways.1)Increased exposure-Radio ads, posters, guys running around with sandwhich boards, someone standing out the front of the hyperdome firing a shotgun into the air screaming "football Football, Get your Football!" A lot of people I talk to in Canberra (and I'm a salesmen so I talk to different people everyday) don't even realise canberra has a league. Before we can think about charging people ala roller derby we need to get people just rocking up.
2)Improve Quality for spectators that do turn up-As I said, a little rules thing every week like they have at the finals, a commentator to explain why everyone is just standing around. And the other thing, make it family friendly. I swear. I swear a lot but I sure as hell don't want my 2 year old hearing players and coaches on the field screaming every 4 letter word under the sun. If we present ourselves like professionals people will treat us as such. If we rock up, swearing, throwing helmets and carrying on like a bunch of school children no one is gonna care. To add to this I think the quality of the umpire's need's to improve to make it more spectator friendly. Firstly by cutting out the five minute debates they seem to have every other flag. Ref's should only be throwing a flag when it is necessary for safety or if the foul directly effects the play, NOT when someone is been held 30 yards off the ball and clearly can't make a play at the man with the ball, which is what seems to be happening at the moment. Now before someone get's upset about my comment, I do appreciate the time and effort that guy's like Mitch, Shawn, Ian and yes even Tony put in for us all to be able to play this great game. I just believe that the ref's slow the pace of the game down making it boring too watch from the stands and extremely frustrating as a player.
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By wally - 24/09/2011 9:05:41 PM
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reflex (23/09/2011)
[quote] wally (23/09/2011)
To add to this I think the quality of the umpire's need's to improve to make it more spectator friendly. Firstly by cutting out the five minute debates they seem to have every other flag. Ref's should only be throwing a flag when it is necessary for safety or if the foul directly effects the play, NOT when someone is been held 30 yards off the ball and clearly can't make a play at the man with the ball, which is what seems to be happening at the moment. Now before someone get's upset about my comment, I do appreciate the time and effort that guy's like Mitch, Shawn, Ian and yes even Tony put in for us all to be able to play this great game. I just believe that the ref's slow the pace of the game down making it boring too watch from the stands and extremely frustrating as a player. i am a referee, i wont say which one because im sure someone on here has a problem with some decisions ive made
firstly refs should be throwing a flag if they see something that is against the rules of the game, no matter how trivial they may seem, being offside by a milimetre is still offsideNow I never said that they should not be throwing flags that aren't against the rules, personal fouls, unsportsmanlike and penalty's that involve player safety should all way's be thrown. I also agree offside is offside. What I'm talking about are the penalty's that get thrown by the ref's for something that gave the offending side no advantage. but are called back anyway. secondly, most refs apart from a select few are volunteers who fill in for a few games a season because of duty, many do it just so the club they play for isnt fined for not supplying refs, as such they are not familiar with the rules, so if they see something they may not be sure if its a penalty, and have to have a chat with the senior refs who do know the rules, so they can determine whether it is a penalty or not
You say this like I don't have any understanding on how the league ref's work. Although I don't no all the in's and out's. I am aware of the volunteers and club ref's. "many do it just so the club they play for isnt fined for not supplying refs,as such they are not familiar with the rules" This is the biggest problem that the league has with the current way the ref's are allocated, and the actual quality of the ref's. The league needs to address this over the coming years and find a better solution to the shortage of ref's. Reflex having on field discussion to determine if a flag is penalty or not is sometime's appropriate, but not every flag that is thrown by jnr ref. I believe the ref's do reviews on each game during the week, this is the time for the snr ref's to have discussions with the jnr ref's. lastly if a ref's doesn't have confidence in his own calls, then maybe he shouldn't be making the call, it's slows the game down and put's doubt in people's mind if he has an reasonable knowledge on the game. thirdly, holding away from the run of the play is not a penalty, and im not sure what the circumstances were but i feel sure you probably misheard or misinterpreted the referee because the senior refs would have waved that off, having said that you may not have, if that is the case id agree it was a shit callThis was an example I used to get my point across and wasn't based on one incident that occurred to me but many I have witnessed over the years of playing in ACT gridiron and even games I have played in other states. From your comment here I get the impression that your jnr ref's yourself, is this correct? fourthly, you are clearly not a ref because otherwise you would not have made these comments, if you want to improve the quality of refereeing go become a ref for the junior season and then step up again for the senior season, instead of whinging on the bear, as is common in this league people are all too happy to have a go at the refs but dont want to have a go at reffing, its hard, sometimes you make bad calls, just like players make bad plays, my pet hate is people saying a ref cost them the game, that is incorrect if the game is so close it comes down to a call going against your team to lose it, really your team hasnt played well enough to win anywayNo I'm not a ref, but even if I was, I would still have made the same comment. I don't believe I was whining Stump87 posted some great ideas and I choose to expand on that, " people are all too happy to have a go at the refs but dont want to have a go at reffing" I'm not sure how I had ago at the ref's, you might just be to sensitive to be able to take a bit of criticism :/. any how after playing in the world cup this year I have experienced how fast a game of American football can be played and what a difference quality ref's can make to the game form a spectator and a players point of view. I think everyone agrees that we need more spectators to improve player numbers and improve our chance of getting sponsors for the league so we have money to expand and improve. but we can't get more spectators if the ref's are slowing down the game. let's be realistic to someone in the stands it is a form of entertainment. and yes i agree that games are too slow but what is to be done, unless we get a crew of professional referees to speed things up, the league doesnt have that kind of money, in any case the game is a stop start game, thats how its played, and actg cant change that because we use NCAA rules from college, so unless they change nothing can be done[/quote/]OK gridiron is a stop start sport that does not mean it has to be a slow game. Professional ref's would be great in an ideal world, but that's not going to happen is it. There are many ways we can improve the ref's we have ie. More training, investing in interstate ref's to come an coach the ref's explain the rules and their interpretations(which i believe we have done in the past with positive feed back). and I'm sure other people in the league could come up with more ideas. but if we have people that aren't willing to change from the old ways and take a step in the right direction, we may never improve.
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By wally - 6/10/2011 1:49:19 AM
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Hey Chimp,
Where the hell is our review you hairless Baboon?
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By wally - 14/10/2011 10:58:39 PM
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Hey Wikus,
It's spring which means Chimps to busy trying to get his freak on with those pesky baboons.......("break out in song and dance")
He like big butts and he can not lie
his other brothers can't deny
That when a chimp walks in with an itty bitty waist
And a round thing in his face
he get sprung
Wanna pull up tough
Cuz he notice that butt was stuffed
Deep in the jeans that chimp is wearing
He's hooked and He can't stop staring
Oh, baby he wanna get with ya
And take your picture
He's homeboys tried to warn him
But that butt he got
Make him so horney
Ooh, rump of smooth skin
You say you wanna get in his benz
Well use him use him cuz you aint that average Monkey
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By wally - 21/10/2011 9:13:38 PM
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Coach Hollywood (20/10/2011)
Yes thats great sun smart advice and precaution for you Pete but when you ref'd - the crowd in the stands couldn't see 10 yards either side of the line of scrimmage
Crowd???? 
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By wally - 15/12/2011 4:03:03 AM
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Don't know much about it/them but if the Astros don't collapse then it will be great to have a 7th team, if the Astro's do then at least we remain at 6 teams.
I did hear that they are to be a strictly indigenous/torres strait Islanders team which is great. Though I wonder if they will be able to get the numbers to sustain a full squad as a lot of those guys play other codes of football, which we all know conflict with the gridiron season.
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By Junior - 22/11/2011 8:46:11 PM
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Youmustbeoutsideyourmind (21/11/2011)
Now now Shane no need to bring my girlfriend into this!
People in this league need to stop accusing us of being any of the keyboard warriors on here. This forum is not moderated and after personal attacks years ago we gave up on posting. We only come on here to read the chimps posts. Since he has stopped, we have stopped visiting. Leave me and my wife out of your pathetic ramblings.
Shane and Jenna Dixon
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By Junior - 22/11/2011 9:24:31 PM
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Youmustbeoutsideyourmind (22/11/2011)
Obviously the only Shane in the world is Shane Dixon....... I didn't say it was you did I? At what point did I say Shane Dixon?
Seriously how many Shanes in the League?! It was very obvious who you were pointing a finger at! Jenna and I have had people accuse us of different personalities on this forum where we have had to continually deny their accusation. Jenna is NOT Ginger or The Chimp (that one made us laugh); I am NOT Lemonade. The season is over so go back to your lives and leave us out of it please.
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By finimac2 - 27/07/2011 9:06:45 PM
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I have never seen a championship decided from a pre-season scrimmage and last time I checked we still only play 11 man football?
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By finimac2 - 19/08/2011 5:46:23 AM
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Guys they haven't scrimmaged for the past three years, nothing out of the norm.
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By finimac2 - 8/09/2011 3:27:54 AM
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Dawson threw a pick attempting to throw to Softy in the endzone on a slant return/whip route had worked a few times, however our young corner learnt from his previous mistakes and stepped in front to get the pick. Softy then done what any player would've done and grabbed the first thing he could (Lewis's helmet, which was a wise decision in my books because if Softy didn't grab him Lewi would've been in the other endzone the kid ran a 4.6 something 40 in preseason) the play was called back anyway as a Gladiator was offside.
As for this cut blocking saga..... I know QLD gridiron league has outlawed cut blocking not 100% certain on the exact reason, however I'm certain it has something to do with safety.
At the end of the day most of us need to return to work on Mondays (or whenever our next shift is) so sometimes we may need to change rules to ensure safety of all.
Address things like this with the league executive or AGOA find video of any poorly executed or illegal cut blocks and show the evidence that it was illegal and may have caused injury.
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By finimac2 - 12/09/2011 4:11:02 AM
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For what it is worth we have film of Tino's hit from Saturday, firstly he has no chance of making a play on the ball the UC receiver snags it with one hand while Tino is appx 2 yards away. Secondly contact is clearly made with the right shoulder.
If you are talking about the hit in the opposite endzone again no chance to make a play on the ball and makes contact similtaneously as the ball hits the receivers hand and bounces off.
Both of these have 3 referees within 5-20 yards, don't you think that if it was an illegal hit it would of been called on the field?
I also don't recall any of the players from either team complaining about the hits, perhaps some QBs shouldn't lead their receivers into trouble like that? Floating balls to post routes when the middle of the field is closed is not a good idea. The kid just got back from representing our country at the world cup don't you think that if he had any technique issues like you suggest they would've been coached out of him?
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By finimac2 - 13/09/2011 2:08:24 AM
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Google it....... just joking.
This is the rule regarding a receiver.
Contact Against an Opponent Out of the PlayARTICLE 12. a. No player shall tackle or run into a receiver when a forwardpass to him obviously is not catchable. This is a personal foul and not passinterference.b. No player shall run into or throw himself against an opponent obviously outof the play either before or after the ball is dead.
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By finimac2 - 26/09/2011 5:10:57 PM
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It was actually called by the refs, when I spoke to them I was told that the penalty was for illegal hands to the head. Hardly a late hit and we all know how easy it is for our hands to slip upwards when blocking or attempting to beat a block.
As for things the league needs to change IMO mercy rules need to be removed, you don't see them in other leagues or sports and in a way you are punishing a team for being succesful
Yes we are annoyed that we aren't getting full games, fingers crossed it doesn't happen again.
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By finimac2 - 18/10/2011 5:12:08 PM
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I did notice that Coach Pete's famed purple crocs made an appearance on Saturday, crocs come out of retirement Centurions notch their first win. Coincidence?
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By finimac2 - 6/11/2011 8:35:18 PM
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shit you guys have a camp? how many people fit in your tent? ps the chimp is clearly John Crispin, watches every game pretending he is doing 'stats' i know he loves message boards and facebook!
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By finimac2 - 7/11/2011 4:59:47 PM
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Looking at the penalty count may give a different impression 7 penalties vs 10 seems relatively balanced, what really killed us was that the majority of our penalties came on big plays were we had gained 10+ yards on a run or a pass. Can't solely balme the refs though and credit goes to the wildcats goodluck to them and the firebirds on Saturday.
A question I have though is what is the point of playing the whole season with 4 man crews then getting to the finals and playing with a 7 man crew?
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By finimac2 - 9/11/2011 12:18:52 AM
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perhaps there is some confusion here due to the difference in the pass interference rules in the NFL vs NCAA.
Shakespere, ive got no problem with putting my hand up to assist with referreeing, I have done said course and reffereed games, what I was getting at is I don't see the value in playing the majority of games one way then changing it for the finals. I would also love to see the league have 5-6pm kickoffs in the regular season not just the finals.
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By HailToTheRedskins - 8/09/2011 10:04:22 AM
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To clarify cut blocking – in the rule book it is defined as “blocking below the waist”. For example, “blocking below the waist” is not allowed on special team plays or change of possession plays (like an intercept return – once intercepted, all blocks must stay above the waist).
In terms of making initial contact at the knees or below, well, it is allowed. At no point does the rule book say “blocking below the waist” is “blocking below the waist but above the knees”. Now, if you use your helmet to target someone’s knees, like you duck your head and the first point of contact is your helmet on their knees, then that’s a flag for leading with the helmet (the old spearing call).
The biggest contributing factor for a successful cut block is momentum. It’s no use cutting a relatively stationary, gap-plugging defensive linemen as you just become a heavy tackle bag to step over. Watch the NFL and look at how often a genuine 3-4 nose tackle like Vince Woolfork or Casey Hampton gets cut – never (except on goaline – that’s a different story because you’re charging to plug gaps). It’s the off-the-corner DEs, 3-technique tackles and reckless blitzing LBs (see Kawika Mitchell as an example) you see get cut on a regular basis. You use a cut block on a hard-charging linemen because like how a wave breaks when entering shallow water, you need the energy (momentum) going over the top of the cut to get the defender on the ground.
There are a few reasons why players are (or should be) coached to aim a cut block at the thigh pad. Firstly it gives the blocker more control over the block – if the defender realises the cut is coming and uses his hands and feet to avoid it, the blocker is in a strong enough position to stay off the ground and attempt to drive through the defender and still execute some sort of block. Secondly, it gives a greater margin for error. If you go low and don’t time it right, you end up eating grass and not getting anything, or you get a concussion from copping a knee in the side of the head.
The only situation where a cut block aimed below the knees gets dangerous is if the person being cut has their feet stuck in the ground. If you’re a D-lineman not moving your feet, then what the hell are you doing? All linemen – including 3-4 gap pluggers – should be constantly moving their feet.
Chop blocking (high-low), now that is dangerous as hell. Hence why it is illegal and the recipient of a 15-yard penalty (and fines in the NFL). It's been banned for the 20 years I've been following football. I remember a spate of chop-block injuries in the NFL about 1991, which led to debate about banning it or increasing fines for it. Happy to be corrected, but I remember something in a Football Digest magazine from 1991 about it.
As for the Tom Bass quote about cut blocks in youth football increasing the incidence and severity of knee injuries, that’s a fair point for junior football. A lack of experience and strength around the joints would mean a cut block gone wrong could be catastrophic, so junior leagues can adjust their rules accordingly. But you can’t compare that example to when it’s being played by men.
This is the same for other sports – rugby union has rules to de-power scrums at the youth level. As a practical example, I’ve been playing rugby as a prop and hooker since I was 15, and I still play fourth grade now. Through high school, we played under 19s laws for the scrums, where you couldn’t push more than 1m (or maybe 1.5m...) off the mark, couldn’t twist a scrum and crotch-binding was not allowed. When I moved to Canberra for Uni, the ACTRU Colts comp played under open rules, meaning you could shunt and twist to your heart’s content, while crotch binding made a massive difference in the power coming through the front row. It took me six months to get used to it. If we played under those open-age rules in under 19s, I could definitely see where someone would have been seriously injured in a scrum.
This is a similar situation to cut blocking – could definitely contribute to injuries in teens and pre-teens, but once you hit open-age competition, you should have the joint-strength and playing ability to deal with it, or learn how to deal with it.
Queensland used to ban blocking below the waist - they don't now. I've been around this league since 1998 and a couple of times people have canvassed trying to ban cut blocking. During one of these discussions in about 2006, I think the league asked for people to submit evidence of people being injured because of cut blocking. No one came forward to say "So-and-so" was definitely injured with a cut block. Putting my mind to it for two minutes, I know at least six people in ACT Gridiron (mainly from my team) who have broken bones in their legs or suffered knee injuries from being tackled as ballcarriers or being caught in a bad position while making an open-field tackle over the last couple of years (Jeremy Milne, Ben Collett, Jonathan McLinden, Jono McCaskill, Dan Baker and Ashley Golding), but I cannot recall one person anywhere in the league suffering a similar injury because of a cut block.
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By X - 20/09/2011 1:37:21 AM
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I couldn't think of anything worse than pushing the season back a few weeks - It's a winter sport, and we already struggle in 30+ Degree heat late season. Bring on the Vic season - Mid winter, good for us "+ Size" players!
I understand the point about players from other codes, but who wants to pad up in the middle of summer?
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By X - 20/09/2011 5:19:58 PM
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Slow down there big fella, the Astros have been struggling for various reasons, non of which have been declared as season timing. They have been without a completely dedicated full time head coach type for a long time (Years) and have a fair few internal issues - Enough to kill any club. There is no risk of the league disappearing in the near future when we have teams who's successful recruiting has seen rosters of 45+ players (Glads) and new teams with 30+ (Wildcats) and the Centurions having a majority rookie lineup. The real key is a successful junior and pre juniors program to sign the kids up before they start other sport, which is being worked on by ACT Sport & Rec + the ACTG exec.
Jeremy Milne played Rugby, as does last year's rookie of the year Jarrett Limon from the Tornadoes, as do several Gladiators and players from other teams - If they want to play they will. I know that it would make it easier to pick up more from other codes, but think that we would lose players with experience due to Decmber commitments. Putting long socks, a helmet, pads, gloves and running around in 30+ degree heat would drive several players from the league and may not seem as attractive as the long standing Canberra tradition of spending weekends cooling off at the beach with a beer.
I respect your opinion but think there is more to consider.
Nadoes #78
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By X - 21/09/2011 1:50:19 AM
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Lol, I knew you'd pull me up on the long socks... My pale a$$ burns in seconds if I don't wear them 
I would really love to get the league to a point where it was not reliant on other codes for players, but that is a while off even if we get the junior program pumping next year (Except Centurions because Pete recruits them from the pub anyway!)
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By X - 19/10/2011 2:52:38 AM
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There is no conspiracy theory, nor did it affect the outcome of the game - It was never going to give us the chance to come back. As far as I'm aware, Coach Hollywood agreed that he would have done the same thing. Hollywood, can you confirm?
Good game Glads, you big a$$ bastards. Good to see Wazza out and about again too.
Enough speculation about this that and the other on this forum - Keep it to the good clean, fun voilence it should be.
Cheers,
Nadoes 78.
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By X - 11/11/2011 5:06:14 AM
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LT/RT - GLD #77, TORN #78 #78 is DL. TT #67.
Played both ways a bit - Stoopid Ironman football
Nadoes 78
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By Butthead73 - 18/05/2011 10:13:57 PM
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Since no one else has started the thread I thought I might as well. Teams this year: Firebirds Gladiators Tornoades Centurions Astros Wildcats Chimp are you going to give us a season preview? Cheers Peter
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By Butthead73 - 28/06/2011 12:01:35 AM
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Iamsosmrt (25/06/2011)
The half dozen Astros left spent the Jr season in the canteen and they should probably just stay there. I guess the Wildcats can get a couple of wins this year if the Astros can scrape together 15 for games.I think people will be surprised this year by the Astro's. They are already getting more people to training than most other teams and have a strong coaching staff.
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By Butthead73 - 12/08/2011 6:35:40 PM
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Chimp are we going to get a round 1 preview? Also I agree with Coach Hollywood, 'Year of the Rookie' for the ACTG!
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By Butthead73 - 15/08/2011 11:31:58 PM
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I agree, come on Chimp and don't retire just yet! With soooo many rookies in the league this year you could have a ball!! Preview?
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By Butthead73 - 22/08/2011 8:25:11 PM
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Chimp thanks for the write up and I am sorry to say but I am going to retire the purple crocs. They have lost their mojo!! With reference to our game I have to say I am very happy with the way our 20 rookies played and I have no doubts they will provide endless entertainment for you throughout the season. Cheers Peter
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By Butthead73 - 22/08/2011 11:23:22 PM
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Chimp, Thanks mate and to answer your three requests. I believe a green pair of Crocs might make an appearance this week. Also very proud of the fact the guys never gave up. Its a long season but after week one the Glads look crisp and the team to beat! Look forward to your updates and previews.
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By Butthead73 - 21/09/2011 12:52:42 AM
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The only reason the league has never pushed back the start of the season is the Firebirds. It has been proposed every year that I can remember and every year UC would say that they have too many Uni Students and would lose them all before the end of the season. (this should of changed now with UC going to three terms).
If you started on the 8th September next year (three weeks later than normal) and played 10 rounds plus a bye weekend you would finish on the 1st December.
Just food for thought.
But people if you want to make a change and suggest things put it to the committee. Either through your committee or straight to the league. Get involved and help run the sport that we all love.
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By Butthead73 - 19/10/2011 2:57:19 AM
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Hey Fin,
Thanks, but no purple crocs only green ones on last week. This week I will bring out the old purple ones though.
Good Luck against the birdies.
Awesome weekend of football coming up.
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By Butthead73 - 21/10/2011 12:05:01 AM
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Chimp just so you know: Purple.
Also my 'ridiculously oversized straw hat' is to stop me getting sunburnt. Worked a treat 
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By Butthead73 - 27/10/2011 12:23:16 AM
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NOOOOO!!!! Who else is going to hassle me about my purple crocs!!! That's it! As a remembrance to you I shall never wear them again to football. Maybe some other colour J
Thanks for the memories mate. J and don’t quit. We need the comic relief!
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By Butthead73 - 15/11/2011 2:02:15 AM
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I think quite a few people across the league have had a great year.
Finlay had a cracker
Softy broke another catching record
Jeremy/Stu both had an outstanding season at running back.
37 from the Wildcats was very impressive
Joe (WC QB) really lit up the field when he got going
Grant Clark and Kris Cannon played pretty much every position on the Centurions and tried hard
Paris did well to lead from the front
Cody was solid as ever.
and of course 22 Bullrush. Yes I saw you truck a few people even while complaining about a cut block!!
My only drawback is the end of season awards. I wanted to vote for some players but their names were never put forward.
oh and the Centurions gave up the least amount of sacks this year
See you all next year.
Cheers
Peter
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By Butthead73 - 2/09/2011 8:04:16 PM
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Chimp you are right when you say you can only coach so much and then it comes down to the players.
What every coach should remember is 'teach the skill not the drill'.
Looking forward to the game this weekend and I know our players are pumped and ready to go.
cheers
Peter
ps we have won the last 3 junior championships.
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By Butthead73 - 7/09/2011 6:22:16 PM
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Hello Chimp,
Once again thank you for the game report but I was just wondering if you could focus on my players and not me. Yes I carried on like a goose on the weekend and have since apologised to Dom.
We have players playing really well at the moment, people like Grant Clark who got another 10 tackles on the weekend, Kris and DC who ran the ball quite well and an oline which didnt give up a sack.
Cheers
Peter
ps plus Jake Lord who made us all laugh when TC tried to knock him over!
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By Butthead73 - 8/09/2011 8:30:39 PM
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Hey Coach Hollywood,
I totally agree and I have also brought it up with my players. There is no need for it in the sport and has become a little out of hand the last few weeks. A phone booth on the sideline would be a great idea!! Maybe we should have a time out area as well.
I should also point out my behaviour on the weekend was also questionable and something I will apologise for at the league meeting.
We all get caught up in the moment and sometimes need to look at the big picture. Developing players and getting new players into the sport.
Cheers
Peter
ps I am sorry to the wildcats I yelled at for locking the gates. It was a bit uncalled for and I think the final straw of a long day. as well as Dom.
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By Butthead73 - 13/09/2011 6:27:02 PM
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Stump87 (12/09/2011)
so chimp, which offense are centurions going to run as your prediction in this rounds preview?
What indeed! maybe the ...................!
Actually can some one tell me!!
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By Butthead73 - 14/09/2011 9:33:03 PM
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Chimp thanks for the preview and you never know we might run a few things you have suggested. (I like the take on the wildcat though very amusing)
Might even pull out the old pole cat, swinging gate or spread.
I personally though like the A11 offense or flexbone. 
Only ran 5 formations this year so lets see what the weekend holds!!!
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By Butthead73 - 19/09/2011 2:30:04 AM
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Hello All,
Just for my 2 cents. Shawn did indeed mention that he was going to punish the team for there attitude after the game. He didnt ask permission or needed to ask as what he does as a coach is his business. I did like the fact he told me before hand though.
Our players took no offence at all at what Uni did after the game.
At the end of the day I was happy how our players played and the heart they showed.
We might not be the best team but give us time.
Cheers
Peter
ps Jeremy I still hate you  stay on your side when warming up next time!!
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By Hail to the Chimp - 14/07/2011 2:33:26 AM
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Season 2011 Preview Astros: I'm expecting them to come out swinging this season hoping for a return to their glory days. With a team comprised of apparently just four players it will be interesting to see how they solve the minimum numbers required on the playing roster. Apparently they have introduced a food for game time incentive with the local homeless people of Canberra and hats off to them for such an ingenious way to bolster their slim roster and feed those more needy than ourselves...only if they perform well mind you, their not a charity. Centurions: When the Centurions announced the retirement of John Crispin, the inventor of run middle football, it was a dark dark day for defensive coaches across the league and happy days for defensive backs sidelined against the Centurions these past few seasons. With backup Teletubby Pete Lilley taking over the helm it will be interesting to see what type of offense he brings to the comp this season, my guess a quadruple reverse play with a run middle option, no one will see it coming. Firebirds: Apparently they won last season, BORING!!!! Expecting more of the same tired and snore worthy well drilled and executed football from the Firebirds. Start fumbling the ball and missing blocks and tackles and I might pay some attention. The only positive I can really find from this club is not having to see Jeremy Milne on the back of buses anymore, the bad news is the planned men of gridiron calendar they will be releasing this season for all the ladies out there. With the offensive line occupying most of the months, I recommend all the ladies get the brail edition to avoid burning your eyes. Gladiators: Last years runners up will be looking to go one better this year and with a roster boasting a united nations of heritages (Polynesian, Balkan, Jersey Shore, African American, Giant, Caucasian and what ever Tolsher is....Giant Beaver?) it will be interesting to see if they can unite into the hard hitting club they have been the last two seasons. And most importantly of all, will they keep the good food coming out of the canteen. Tornadoes: A veteran outfit in the league it will be interesting to see how they go this year. The biggest news coming out of the camp is the return of legendary silverback Cam "Kong" Dickson who decided retirement wasn't for him. After scaling the fence at Taronga Zoo, Cam went on a rampage of destruction through Sydney, flipping cars, batting down airplanes and flinging poo at anyone unfortunate enough to get in his way. With this wrecking ball back in the squad you can guarantee some big hits from the boys in blue. Wildcats: Last season was a rebuilding season for the Wildcats and considering it was their first season that's not really a good thing. Following a horror first season it will be interesting to see if they have shaken the family of monkeys from their back and will be able to claim that first all important win in season 2011. Cheers Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 15/07/2011 1:49:56 AM
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Kong (14/07/2011)
Bit of a soft round-up Chimp, where is the rumour and innuendo that surrounds the Pre-season. I have heard that the Firebirds and Tuggeranong are struggling for numbers, especially the Tornadoes with Finlay and Zirkler (can anyone confirm that Zirkler broke his leg at the World cup) jumping ship to the Gladiators (gotta wonder if this will pay off), and the loss of last years Centre, LineBacker (Foy) and Running Back (Moroney). Also I have Heard that a couple of the Gladiators guys packed up and went to Wildcats.I'm sorry you feel that way Kong, I have to admit being a little bit out of the loop with things this season with most teams hence the preseason-light preview. In regards to rumours I've heard floating around at the moment. Berzirkler - Warren hasn't actually broken his leg, he just realised that running at his opponents using the strenght of his arms like his gorilla cousins propelled him along quicker so he actually had some members of the Mexico team use their machete's to shorten his legs for him. Foy, Moroney & Jake departure - Now this is a new one and a bit of a shocker. My understanding from the grapevine is they have decided to move to the Gold Coast to fight crime ala Charlies Angels only they were going to call themselves Jake's Snakes, wether they do this or not is only rumour. Shawn "Little Delicious" Willis - Apparently Shawn is a bit tired of everyone comparing him to the Emperor from Star Wars following his taking on the mantle of supreme overlord of the ACTG and has changed his title from "Emperor" to "Little Delicious". I for one support this choice, it doesn't have the menace of Emperor but is still quite catchy, I fully endorse all Firebirds to call Shawn by his new title and any sprints, pushups, other punishment drills or general beatings he gives you I can assure you have no connection to this title "Little Delicious" Willis....catchy. Gladiators transition to Wildcats - This one definitely took me by surprise, I don't think this is true but it may well could be. I will have to pay more attention when I swing by one of the Wildcats training sessions and see who is there. The only problem with this is I'd rather uppercut myself than drive into Gungahlin as the last time I did I ended up getting dizzy on all the stupid round-abouts that lead to countless narrow winding streets to nowhere. Cheers Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 15/07/2011 2:05:23 AM
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One other thing I'd like to say in all seriousness in regards to all this talk about players jumping ship from this club to that and how it will effect different teams is I don't think much of it. As many clubs have proven over the last few years it's not the size of the team but how much they want to be on that field that counts. My prime example is the Astros last season, some games they could barely scrape together more than the bare minimum to play each week but still came out fighting. You can have a 45 man roster but if it is made of players not willing to break their body for the guy next to them it doesn't mean a thing. As long as each club shows the same heart the Astros did in 2010 and other teams did in previous seasons then I can't wait to watch football each Saturday. Cheers Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 15/08/2011 9:28:57 PM
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Looks like the match previews and reports have been handed over to Godzilla, have fun writing the reports Godzilla, happy to have a break from it this season. Cheers Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 16/08/2011 12:18:29 AM
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4TY (15/08/2011)
That's to bad Chimp I always looked forward to your pre-views and wrap-ups. Unlike the semi-illiterate who wrote the above pre-view you had a bit of flair and a sense of humour.
Cody Butthead73 (15/08/2011)
I agree, come on Chimp and don't retire just yet! With soooo many rookies in the league this year you could have a ball!! Preview? I’m going to have to sit down and take your comments on notice guys, maybe I should keep writing the reports. To be honest, I’m going to be quite (sorry I think it should be spelled quiet...that doesn't seem write does it.... hmm something I've read has made my grasp of English slip for some reason...where was I) busy with work this season and may well be missing 1 or 2 rounds of the season all together and not be able to provide reports to cover them as a result. When I read the round 1 preview by the intellectual heavyweight who came up with the username “Scr#w the Chimp Hail to Godzilla” or what ever it is (she had me at Scr#w the Chimp… thought it was an offer), I thought I'd finally found a worthy successor with a well thought out and witty username (If you are a lady and your offer of what you’d like to do with me is open, pm me , if you’re a guy, I’m flattered but I don’t swing that way). Unfortunately after reading over the round 1 preview again I made a horrific discovery. What I thought initially was a brilliant article written by someone pretending to not have a clue how to spell, use capital letters in a name or construct a sentence for comedic effect was in fact a poorly written 6 or 7 paragraph piece of sh!t waste of time that wasn’t funny and I’m pretty sure made everyone who read it stupider by at least 30 IQ points. To help you out Godzilla I’m going to send you my very first copy of “The Chimp teaches Godzilla how to write basic f#ck!ng English” hot off the presses. Hopefully this helps you as I’ve never claimed to be able to string more than one or two sentences together successfully but that preview was atrocious. However I would like to thank you for finally revealing Paris’ surname, I didn’t think it was Will but according to you it is. Cheers Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 16/08/2011 12:26:37 AM
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The round 1 preview is coming but in all honesty it will be pretty light as I have been away for work for a good part of the last 3 months and haven't had a chance to catch up on the news and rumours of each club. I will endeavour to spell player names correctly, try to be funny and actually write the nicknames I've been using for the last few seasons correctly which apparently is harder than it looks. To assist me with giving the credit and ridicule to players where it is deserved could team admins please send me a pm with the player names and numbers if they feel like doing so, if not I'll just give your players a name that suits them. Cheers Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 15/11/2011 3:24:08 AM
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Lemonaide (14/11/2011)
Butthead73 (14/11/2011)
oh and the Centurions gave up the least amount of sacks this year That’s because it’s not counted as a sack when your QB is continually running for his life! LOL
F##k you Lemonaide, your not supposed to make me laugh!!!
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By Hail to the Chimp - 19/10/2011 4:09:11 AM
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Ginger (18/10/2011)
Hey Chimp, you forgot to write about the funny moment where the Gladiators caused a TD to be turned over because he (Duncan maybe? Not sure, it was on the far side of the field) dove into the endzone celebrating too early! An example of the rule in NCAA
Unfortunately Ginger if I wrote about every funny and memorable moment from every game I'd never get a chance to do anything else. Some of the things I left out from the weekend included seeing a lineman chase down a corner to prevent an intercept touchdown, the diving touchdown being called back (as you've mentioned), rumours that a player from the Nadoes missed the game because he didn't want to get bruised because he had a big event the following week (nude photoshoot?), Milne's big yards, Tim's intercept for TD that opened the scoring for the Firebirds, TC playing through what appears to be a pretty nasty ankle injury, Paris' clear improvement at QB as the season has progressed, Pete's Crocks (good pick up Fin) and even more. One other thing that I haven't mentioned is for everyone to go onto Facebook and other websites and check out the great photos being taken this year by a variety of people (Jenna, Ben Southall [surname spelling correct?] and Mrs Tolsher to name a few) the more we can get these photos out to the general public the better we can promote the game.
Cheers
Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 19/10/2011 8:29:53 PM
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Lemonaide (19/10/2011)
Unfortunately Ginger if I wrote about every funny and memorable moment from every game I'd never get a chance to do anything else. Isnt that the point of your reviews???!
Hi Lemonaide,
I've finally figured out who you are, actually not "who" but what. Your Herpes. Wait wait, let me explain my point. Herpes pops up randomly just like you. Herpes is disliked by everyone just like you, Herpes serves no purpose in life but to irritate everyone who is unfortunate enough to have it just like reading the pointless drivel you post and most of all everyone wishes herpes will go away just like I'm sure most people feel about you. I can only assume this carries over onto the football field, if your male which I still don't think is the case, but if you are then you are most likely the guy on the team everyone wishes their was a cream to get rid of.
But to elaborate on your comment, what the f#ck are you talking about? "Isn't that the point of your reviews?" I'm sorry, I'm pretty sure I explained that I have a life outside this forum apparently unlike you. I'm happy to keep my reviews as is with the odd occassion I get extra time to write a larger post so in between waiting for me to post here so you can jump on and criticise my comments with your usual drivel please feel free to get back to scratching those annoying sores all over your body as I can only assume being the creator of this horrid disease your body must have them all over your arms, legs etc.
Cheers
Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 20/10/2011 9:53:56 PM
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Round 9 Preview
Two days to go, two days to go. I'm so pumped and excited about this weekend that I've been running around the Canberra Centre blindsiding shoppers walking out of shops just to work off the adrenaline for this massive round.
Game 1 - Firebirds (7-1) vs Gladiators (8-0)
The biggest game of the round. This promises to be a cracker of a game and with the golden ticket to the grand final up for offer I'm expecting both teams to give it their all.
Things to watch:
Firebirds, the dirtiest, most crooked team in the comp - After reading the comments regarding Shawn I'm not getting involved but his team however are one of the most vile and nasty pack of criminals out there. Don't believe me then explain these players:
Ian "Gator" Lanham - This guy helps 'manage' some of his girlfriends when they go out on dates, last time I checked, that's a pimp.
Murray "Dip" Coffey - He dips his nuts in people's beverages, who does that, Murray does.
Luke "Hand" Job - Loan shark, for gods sake, he snapped his own centre's finger for not paying him back $3 he loaned him so he could buy food from the canteen.
Matthew "The Hated" Marshall - The Keyser Soze of the Firebirds, act's like the nicest guy you will ever meet then goes round to your house and kills your family just because you made a good block on him. Remember when he had that touchdown called back, well let's just say that the player responsible for the block in the back having everyone he loved suddenly disappear isn't a coincidence.
Gladiators, the most violent group of sociopaths on the field - Don't think this is a one way street of criticism people, the Gladiators have a whose who list of straight up killers and lunatics on their roster. Their training sessions are pretty much just Coaches Old, Hollywood and Dom throwing a homeless person with a football strapped to him into the pit holding the glads in between games and letting them tear him apart just to cool their homicidal tendencys before the weekend. Let's look at some of the members of this gladiatorial family:
Junior "Lights Out" Lafaele - A rookie gladiator who proved his worth to group after beating his first opponent to a pulp with nothing but his bare hands and a smile on his face.
Larry - This guys just plain scares the sh!t out of me, avoid if you want to live.
Warren "Berzirkler" Zirkler - The only thing more terrifying than having to face someone who will stop at nothing to break you is one making up for lost time and after missing most of the first half of the season the Berzirkler will be looking to add his punishment on his opponents with interest.
Evan "The Quiet One" Harvey - Apparently everyone avoids this guy as while he may come across as one of the quietest and polite people you'll ever meet the 70 familys missing across Australia may hint that scratch beneath the surface and you may find a monster.
I wish I could give every player on both teams a wrap as you don't get to top of the ladder like the glads or 7-1 like the birdies without working as a team. Cannot wait for this game.
Game 2 - Astros (1-7) vs Tornadoes (3-5)
After a crushing defeat last week the Tornadoes need to win both their remaining games to keep in finals contention. First game off the rank is against the Astros who at this stage are probably willing the season to just wrap up.
Things to watch:
Where's Jameson - The Astros were missing Jameson last week in a big way. If they want to have any chance of winning the game they are going to need him or give Paris the time to pass the ball on a much improved passing game.
Back in blue - After missing last weeks game I believe a number of Nadoes players will be coming back this week to buffer out the team and add much needed numbers in what looks like it is going to be a very hot a humid day. These extra players could well be the difference and if the Nadoes keep up the pace it could tire out the Astros very quickly.
Shrinking light at the end of the tunnel - With two games to go the Nadoes need to hope that either the Centurions or Gladiators hand the Wildcats a defeat and that they win both their games. There is still a legitimate chance the Nadoes can make it but if the Astros can pull off an upset it's going to be lights out for the Nadoes finals run.
Game 3 - Centurions (1-7) vs Wildcats (4-4)
After putting the Astros to the sword last week what does this week hold for the Centurions, why they face a team that must win to ensure it can keep on track for their first semi-final berth.
Things to watch:
So close yet so far - When a team loses by the barest of margins, a dropped catch, then god help the team they face in the next round. This is the situation facing the Centurions after the Wildcats almost had the Firebirds but were let down by a dropped ball in the endzone after an extremely gutsy effort. I think that the Wildcats will be coming out firing on every piston for this game.
2 from 2? - After kicking the hell out of the kid on crutches the school emo turned the corner and bumped into the kid who had only transfered to the school last year and was half the size they are now and no where near as mean and tough. Can the finally smiling emo kid avenge his beating from Pablo the transfer student or will he once again get his head dunked in the pooey tasting toilet of defeat.
Croc Watch - What type of crocs will Pete be wearing, what colour will they be, will he be wearing that ridiculously oversized straw hat. Only time will tell.
Cheers
Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 26/10/2011 12:53:51 AM
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Review to come tonight, can't load the reviews from my phone anymore and been busy with work/family.
Plus I'm still trying to get over Saturday, can't believe the Centurions unbeaten streak is over after 1 game.
Apologies
Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 27/10/2011 12:14:50 AM
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Hi all,
I'm pulling up stumps with The Bear. I've really enjoyed writing up my round previews and reviews for the last few years and almost everything I've said has been in good spirits and tounge in cheek. Lately I've noticed some of the talk on the Bear has done more harm than good for the ACT League with the current thread about last weekend a prime example. I'll still be there every week watching every game and having a laugh and I may even put together a blog next year if I can be bothered. I've enjoyed the banter on this forum and am all for free speech but lately I've felt like a lot of what I have to say is really just the same drivel I've had to say from the last few years and is nothing new, funny or beneficial for the competition.
Good luck to the Wildcats, Gladiators and Firebirds for the finals, every one of you deserves to have gotten your spot in the finals and I wish each team nothing but the best for the following fortnight.
Cheers,
Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 15/11/2011 3:23:34 AM
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Hi all,
Just my two cents on who I think belong in these spots this season.
ACT ALL STARS TEAM 2011QB - Steve Finlay (Gladiators) - His QB rating this season spoke volumes, was a standout player all season and even decided to run the ball for a TD or two. Everyone has an opinion on who belongs here and this is mine. RB - Jeremy "F##kin Catalina Wine Mixer" Milne (Firebirds) - Forget Six Million Dollar, this guy is the Catalina Wine Mixer of the ACTG, say his surname and everyone knows who your talking about and will say Jeremy "F##kin" Milne for one reason or another, some good, some bad. Personally I'm pretty sure Shawn cheated and had his legs replaced with those of a cheetah but good luck proving it.FB - Sean Gautusa (Wildcats) - Well if you can't figure out why he's on here you haven't been watching this season. He's been a bit of a human highlight reel who took my advice (or so I'd like to think) and worked on his cardio to massive benefits at the end of the season. Sean seemed to get better and better as the season progressed and some of his hits on players trying to stop him were so good they knocked my fillings loose. And if that's not frustrating enough for everyone, this guy can sing too, just check out this link, http://www.starnow.com.au/Bullrushd , here's hoping Sean aka Bullrush is back next season to sing linebackers a lullaby after he knocks them the f##k out. WR - Junior "Swagg" Lafaele (Gladiators), Antony "Softy" Pezullo (Tornadoes), Mark "Burrito?" Burrage (Wildcats) - Junior absolutely killed it this season at receiver as well as in special teams. The fact he's a rookie only made his efforts that more outstanding, cannot wait to see what he brings to the table next year. Softy, god damn buddy, you had a hell of a season. From jumping over the defence like a spider monkey to steal a sure intercept to making freakish leaps to reel in the ball you were a massive standout this season. Mark Burrage, sorry for the Burrito nickname, was hungry and it was the first thing that jumped to mind. Mark has been a shining light from the Wildcats and his 78 yd TD reception in the semi was for me a massive play to make before half time that gave the Wildcats the sniff they needed coming into the second half. Well done to all three of you and here's to more of the same in 2012.TE - We still have people playing Tight End in this league.....meh.O-Line - Firebirds/Gladiators - The offensive line for me is the heart of any offensive unit and every year for me the best o-line is part of a team that wins and wins big. If I did the o-line position by position then it would have to be a mixture of Firebird and Gladiator players as you don't get to 9-1 in the regular season without an o-line to drive you. I'd name names but I don't want players missed from the list to and get cutty on themselves.
DEFENSESafety - Tino "21 Fly" (Gladiators) - I haven't seen a player like Tino be able to make receivers completely lose focus on the ball and be more worried about being hit by him in a long long time. Had a blinder of a season and certainly put the fear of the Lord into many many receivers all season long.
CB - I'll be honest, I wouldn't know how to judge a great cornerback to save myself so I'm not going to try, I think that every team had players making great plays at Cornerback and they all deserve credit for there effort this season. Cornerback used to be the dumping ground of players you didn't know what to do with, it's good to see talented players taking these positions over the last few years.OLB/MLB - For Linebackers we were spoiled for choice this season, we had Jayson "The Bully" Kirk & late into the season Warren "Berzirkler" Zirkler with 15! tackles in one game (Gladiators), Reece "Cheat" Cheater (Firebirds), Cody "Iron Lung" Field (Cody pretty much played this season through with an injury almost everywhere on his body and still made tackle after tackle) & Will Tabrett (Tornadoes) and one or two Wildcat players who I have to be honest I don't know the names of but they did their jobs shutting the ball down on the line (Can any Wildcat players please, please drop some names for their Linebackers so they get the credit they deserve).D-Line - Gladiators - These guys for me were the standout defensive line of the comp. While their whole defense played a part in making them the team with the least points allowed in the regular season their front line were a big big standout. With players like Tolsh aka Bunk aka Devon aka Man Beaver, Glen, John, Larry, Leroy, Siaosi, Jamie and David aka Stingray on the front wall you've got a hell of a job facing you. I'd also throw Grant Clark from the Centurions in there somewhere as he worked his heart out all season.
Rookie of the Year - Junior "Swagg" Lafaele (Gladiators) - Stand out rookie for me this season, the effort he put in every game was amazing and some of his touchdown returns off kicks were made for the highlight reel.
MVP - Michael Geld (Gladiators) - For anyone to consider naming this guy the Chimp, well he has to be MVP material .
Coach of the Year - Pete Lilley (Centurions) - For anyone to keep turning up week after week like he did after watching his team's season implode deserves coach of the year in my book. Way to stay positive Pete, better luck for next season and keep up wearing the crocs.
Season 2012 - I'm actually pretty freaking excited about the 2012 season, if the top teams can maintain their form and the other clubs find the form they showed flashes of during the season then 2012 could be the best season yet in the ACTG. |
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By Hail to the Chimp - 6/10/2011 11:11:42 PM
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It will be posted tonight at a time of my choosing you son of a motherless goat .
Cheers
Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 7/10/2011 8:03:29 AM
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Round 7 Preview
Bye week has come and gone and the final stretch of the finals run has begun with 4 rounds left to decide who will sit on top spot and get the golden ticket to the finals. Game 1 - Tornadoes (3-3) vs Wildcats (3-3) Game of the round right here. Both teams are currently sitting on the same points and this game will decide who will take 3rd spot and I'm expecting one hell of a fight to be put up by both teams. Things to watch: It's like looking into a mirror - 2pts, that's all that seperates the points scored against these two teams and to win this game the team that can find a chink in their opponents defence will be the one to emerge victorious. This was evident in their last meeting when the Tornadoes scored the only points in a game where both teams smothered almost everything thrown their way. Expect more of the same smashmouth football from both sides. Tim "Superman" Macarthur - He coaches, he passes, he rushes and he tackles, Is there anything this guy can't do? Expecting a big game from Tim capped off with him taking the ball and flying over the defence Superman style to the endzone. Time to shine O-Line - If ever there was a game for an o-line to step up and be counted it's this one. For any team to score their o-line needs to be firing on all cylinders. Which o-line will be the skilled, well drilled unit that drives all before them and which will simply be fat guys in pads, guess we will find out this weekend. Game 2 - Centurions (0-6) vs Firebirds (5-1) Having to play the top ranked team last round, painful, having to play the second ranked team this round, just plain mean. I don't know what the Centurions were up to in the bye week but if it wasn't training hard here's hoping they were praying to God for some divine intervention. If it is anything like their last game it could very painful very quickly. Things to watch: Don't Tase me Bro - Milne is such a critical part of the Firebirds offence I recommend throwing the rulebook out of the window and just tasering this talented b#st#rd. His ability to go from 1st gear to 5th is phenomenal and unless they can tackle him quickly at the line he'll be heaping pain on them all game long. Walker Kay Lanham - While this sounds like a middle of the range law firm it's actually the surnames of three of the best defensive players on the Firebirds. The Firebirds don't have the biggest defence in the game but do have one of the best drilled. Every tackle is a gang tackle and even the smallest guy isn't afraid to put his body on the line, except Coffey, he just likes dipping his balls in people's water bottles, coffee cups, glasses etc, sick b#st#rd. Dave "Old Man River" Catanzariti - How in the hell is a 50 year old the highest tackle count on the Centurions D last week. Dave's effort this season has been a highlight in an otherwise bleak Centurions season. Time to step up and follow Dave and his zimmer frame into the breach. Game 3 - Astros (1-5) vs Gladiators (6-0) The G-Train has been chugging along this season smashing anything in it's way clean off the tracks. In their way this week will be the Astros who have been a team of walking wounded for the majority of the season. The almost got a win against the Wildcats in their last game and will be looking to keep that form coming into this game. Things to Watch: The Wild Bunch - The Gladiators D have only let 35 points get scored against them all season and are the number 1 defensive unit so far. No matter what their doing it looks like their having fun, from making wide receivers explode, smothering the run or watching Larry tear the arm off a player and beat him to death with it, they do it with a smile. The only thing missing from this pack of lunatics is the Berzirkler. Paris - Paris found his form last round with 12 passes for 6 completions. If his O-Line can maintain some solid blocking it will be interesting if he can keep this form going and get some first downs for the Astros. Don't let your guard down - While the Gladiators won their last game against the Astros 24-0 the start of the game saw the Astros drive the ball upfield only to be stopped short of the endzone. If the Astros can find a chink in the Gladiators armour it could become a very interesting game. Can't wait for the weekend. |
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By Hail to the Chimp - 10/10/2011 8:31:08 PM
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Round 7 Review
Round 7 has come an gone and seen the Wildcats take third place, the Firebirds put in a dominant performance and the Gladiators maintain their unbeaten streak. Game 1 - Wildcats 18 defeat Tornadoes 6 The Wildcats emerged victorious in the game to take third place on the ladder in a hard fought game that saw both defences working hard to shut out their opposition in their respective red zones. Game Highlights: The Sack - Harneet "The Sack" Dhindsa pulled off a massive sack on Tornadoes QB Michael Dawson that saw him fumble the ball for it to be scooped up by Carlos Amsteins who broke away for an 80yd touchdown return. Cody nearly stopped him in his tracks early in the play but Carlos managed to break free with Cody in pursuit the whole way. Big ups for Cody for not stopping his pursuit of Carlos for the length of the field and big ups to Carlos for being in the right place at the right time and refusing to quit. Pick City - The Tornadoes passing game just couldn't get off the ground with the Wildcats intercepting passes left and right. With a defence as stingy as this finding it's form so close to the finals it can only be a good thing. Three games to go - We've only got three to rounds to go before the finals and the Nadoes will need to match the Wildcats in Wins and hope that they drop a game to keep in the race. The other factor will be for and against and big scorelines will be needed to get ahead for that final spot. This is going to be a hell of a race. Game 2 - Firebirds 53 defeat St Benedict's Year 6 school for the blind 0. The Firebirds absolutely monstered the hapless Centurions in a lesson of Football between the master and the student. Centurions never had a sniff and the Firebirds just carved them up from start to finish. Game Highlights: Perfect Record - The Centurions quest for a perfect 0-10 record appears to be right on track and the only thing in their way of accomplishing this is the mauled Astros who they face next week. Will they let the sweet smell of success draw them away from accomplishing their first ever horror season or will they stick to their guns and refuse to score any other points since round 4. Ah memories - Watching this game reminded me of seeing Year 12's beating up primary school kids for the fun of it. Shame on you Firebirds, shame on you. Cloning, cloning and more cloning - Like I said before, take Dave, Grant and one or two others and just clone the sh!t out of them for next season because they appear to have been the only one's listening to Pete and Alex at training. Harsh, well after scoring only 8 points this season and getting reamed all season I don't think so. If the Centurions want to use this as fuel to fire them up for the remainder of the season go nuts, your going to need it. Game 3 - Gladiators 38 defeat Astros 6 The opening quarter of the game looked like it was going to be a tight one and when Paris crossed into the endzone some people in the stands started talking about upsets. Well as the final result showed this wasn't to be. In the end it was one hell of a game that wrapped up the day nicely. Game Highlights: Well allow me to retort - Stuart "Vin" Duncan's kick return for a touchdown was the biggest response that could be made to the Astros opening TD and from that point on the Astros were never in the game. How this guy can escape what appears to be a closed gap is beyond me, my guess, tunnels in the field. Timber - Big Ben decided to play Big Bully on Saturday absolutely levelling an unfortunate Astro who appeared to have been embedded in the ground after Fin got up off him. Way to pick on people smaller than you Fin. Execution, execution, execution - While the Gladiators sealed up the match in the second quarter with four touchdowns before that the weren't the well drilled team they usually are. The Astros marched them up the field for a TD and the offence couldn't get a successful drive going. This isn't the usual Gladiators this season and I wouldn't be surprised if we see them hit this on the head and come out playing the clinical football they were playing the rest of the season next week. Berzirkler - Oh and welcome back Berzirkler |
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By Hail to the Chimp - 15/10/2011 12:47:17 AM
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Review is coming, just trying to copyright Wally's song for myself.
Cheers
Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 15/10/2011 1:17:20 AM
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Round 8 Preview
Three games to go until the finals people!!! How quickly has this season gone. Here's hoping who ever is in charge next season makes it at 15 week season which has everyone play each other 3 times as only 10 rounds in the regular season is just cruel. It's like having a lap dance from Jessica Alba only to have her finish just before she takes anything off.... mind you it would still be a hell of a lap dance..................................................... ..................................................crap focus chimp, focus, on with the matches.
Game 1 - Astros (1-6) vs Centurions (0-7)
5th vs 6th in a battle to avoid the dreaded honour of being awarded the wooden spoon. Who will emerge triumphant, the team with more injuries than a crumping class for people with brittle bone disease or a team that has done so well to avoid scoring that it would make the men on beauty and the geek look like a stable of porn stars.
Game Highlights:
Numbers vs Precision - Which will be the factor that decides this game, a lack of players or a lack of precision. History has shown it's the team that wants it more that wins not the team with more numbers. Will history prove correct once again or will the Centurions free themselves from the bitter shackles of defeat and let them suckle of sweet momma victory's t#t.
Keep on Truckin - While both teams have proven they can pass I think their ground game will be a major factor this week. Expecting a big game from both o-lines.
TC's ankle - TC really doesn't seem to be doing to well on that ankle of his and rumour has it he has had his foot removed and replaced with a shopping trolley wheel. While a little extreme I have to admire his dedication, just make sure no shopping dockets are stuck in the wheel mate.
Game 2 - Firebirds (6-1) vs Wildcats (4-3)
This will be a hell of a game. Last time these two teams played it was a nailbiter and I'm wondering if history will repeat a second time and see these teams fighting to the end.
Game Highlights:
Precision O-Line - The Firebirds O-Line deserves a hell of a lot of respect this season. While Milne and the other runners are killing it none of this would be possible without their O-Line stepping up and making their blocks. Credit where it's due, these guys know their stuff and the Wildcats will need to stifle this if they want to get the win in the rematch.
Big Game - The Wildcats season has been up and down and depending on how they go in this game could be an indication of how their finals prospects look. If they can make a game of it, win or lose and keep that momentum going things will be very interesting come the finals, but if the Firebirds put on a repeat performance like they did last week well that can be a morale breaker.
Missing Persons - What's been happening to the Firebirds roster, it seemed like they had a bunch of players earlier in the season. I may be wrong but they are seeming very light on numbers since about midway through the season.
Game 3 - Gladiators (7-0) vs the Tornadoes (3-4)
Another big game, the Gladiators will be looking to continue their unbeaten run but standing in their way are a team that always promises a hard game. The Tornadoes need to win every game to keep in the finals hunt and if the Gladiators come in with their guard down they could be in for a nasty surprise.
Game Highlights:
Nom Nom Nom - Last week Chris Siaosi absolutely devoured an unfortunate Astro who was being held up by Tolsher in a tackle. All that was found by referees were some bones and some pee stained pants. If big Chris can maintain this form you can expect some bone crunching hits this game.
No quit - The Tornadoes haven't had the best of luck this season but regardless of the fortunes of their offence you can always guarantee each and every play their defence will be looking to stop their opponents from even making a yard. Expecting more of the same this weekend.
Great way to end the day - While the first game of the round may not decide the finals, the final two sure as hell do. Make sure you stay in the stands for games 2 and 3 as I think there will be not 1 but 2 big games this weekend.
Can't wait for the weekend.
Cheers
Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 18/10/2011 9:34:01 AM
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Round 8 Review
Well the rounds keep getting better and better, this weekend the Centurions proved that pigs can fly with their victory over the Astros, the Firebirds fought off a valiant Wildcat outfit for the win and the Gladiators made it 8-0 with a convincing win over a depleted Tornadoes roster. Game 1 - Centurions (1-7) defeat Astros (1-7) 18-0 Holy Sh!t the Centurions won a game! Hats off to every player on the Centurions team, at 0-7 it would be really easy to pack your things, take your ball and go home but they didn't quit and each player on their roster deserves a round of applause for their win on the weekend. Game Highlights: The Centurions won a game!!! Who knew he could run - If you said to me last season Grant Clark would make a great runner I'd punch you in the mouth and tell you to get the hell away from me. Well this season he's proved me wrong and he put in one hell of an effort to help lead his team to victory. Fight, Fight, Fight - Word on the street is that the fight between the Astros and Centurions players erupted when some friendly sledging of your going to get the wooden spoon, no your going to get the wooden spoon escalated to unsavoury incident that followed. Congrats Pete - After seven weeks of frustration, angry bedtime w##king and general misery for Coach Pete watching him smile and cheer as his team stormed home to victory next to coach Alex couldn't help but remind me of Mr Roarke and his sidekick Tattoo from Fantasy Island. "We won, we won" yes Tattoo, we won. Congrats Pete and Alex, hope you and the lads didn't party too hard on Saturday night. Game 2 - Firebirds (7-1) defeat Wildcats (4-4) 13-7 The only thing that could have made me happier would have been seeing the Wildcats getting the win in another nailbiter against the Firebirds. This isn't disrespect to the Birdies as they earned a hard fought win, it's just a shame that the effort these guys put in against the Firebirds in both their encounters didn't pay dividends for them on at least one occasion. Great effort by both teams in a slugfest that kept all of us in the stands on the edge of our seats right to the final whistle. Game Highlights: De-Motivationals - Nothing says you can do it like a passionate "You Moron!!!" from your coach. Had me p!ss!ng myself laughing in the seats when this pearl came out from the Firebirds sideline. What most people didn't hear was what followed which went, "You do that again I'm going to travel back in time and murder your father so you were never born you moron!!!" Inspiring stuff. He's still got it - Tim's pass to Mark Burrage was a big time play that put the Wildcats right back into the fight. It was a great play that swung the momentum of the game back towards the Wildcats right when they needed it. I'll punch you right in the face you S.O.B. - The only thing that hurts more than a receiver dropping the ball in the endzone is when they catch it only for it to be called back for holding. I think this could have sealed the deal for the Wildcats and I'm pretty sure the John Doe in a coma at the hospital is the unfortunate player who made that penalty. Game 3 - Gladiators (8-0) defeat Tornadoes (3-5) 36-6 A big win by the Gladiators capped off Round 8 against the Tornadoes. The Tornadoes made a good effort of keeping the Gladiators at only 14pts in the first half and after scoring in the third quarter it looked like they were getting ready to cause an upset before the Glads put their foot to the pedal a notched up 22 points in the second half, 20 of those in the 4th quarter. Game Highlights: D - The Gladiators D was firing on all cylinders with a great performance on the field including a number of intercepts including a touchdown for Jayson "The Bully" Kirk, a safety and some lightning fast blitzes through the line to kill momentum. Big game from the Glads D. Depleted Roster - The Nadoes were playing with a number of players missing including Cam, DJ and a number of other players who were either injured or unavailable for the game for a number of reasons. One player who refused to miss the game was Cody Field who in spite of having a number of injuries that I think would sideline most other people played the whole game and never said die until the final whistle, tough b#st#rd. Hats off to the Nadoes for never saying die with the majority of their players playing both ways all game. Daniel "Diesel" Wade - A stand out for me on top of the effort of Fin, Stu and the rest of the Glads O was the effort put in by Daniel Wade with two big touchdowns, 1 from a pass and the other a run. Watching this guy shrug tackles and take hits and keep on going makes me very excited to see what he will develop into in the coming seasons. Well damn, the rounds just keep getting better just as it's getting close to the end. I cannot wait for Round 9, Firebirds vs Gladiators, Astros vs Tornadoes and Centurions vs Wildcats. Every single one of these games will play a part in deciding the finals picture and I am one very excited little chimp. |
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By Hail to the Chimp - 19/09/2011 8:29:02 PM
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I was under the impression that you could join up at any time but would only be eligible for the finals if you played x number of games. Can someone please clarify if this is correct?
Cheers
Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 21/09/2011 10:24:35 AM
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Ryan, I honestly don't see where my comments lined the Astros up and shot them for being quitters and tore strips out of them. In my first paragraph I said the following: " Well we had a great opening to the first half followed by a horrible finish to it. The Astros chose to forfeit the match even though from what I could count from the stands they had enough players to keep going. Fair enough you have a few injuries and emotions are riding high but I'm sad to see any game end in a forfeit."
And then in my final paragraph:
"Forfeit - WTF Astros, this was the same team I saw last season playing with 15 players and refusing to give an inch and never saying die deciding they would forfeit with what appeared to be enough numbers to keep playing. If this is wrong I apologise but it's a shame to see anyone quit."
You've felt comfortable to highlight the final word of these comments "Quit" and tear strips out of me for having the audacity to say I didn't like seeing the Astros forfeiting. Yes I said I thought they had enough players to keep going but also apologised if this was wrong, what a f##king monster I am. I didn't use the word quit in a way that implied these guys are anything bad, I simply stated a fact, they quit the game via forfeit. I gave them praise for their efforts last season when they were in exactly the same boat and the only words I used to describe Saturday's forfeit was that it was sad, and that it was a shame to see them forfeit. |
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By Hail to the Chimp - 22/09/2011 12:01:32 AM
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Mid Season Review - Category Leaders
Well the halfway mark of the season is here and there are some clear leaders emerging in various aspects of the game. I'll be reviewing the top 3 players for each category but first of all I just want to tip my hat to Crispin for doing the stats this season. He's in there every weekend without complaint watching each game and compiling the stats and without him we wouldn't have this data to work off so thank you Crispin.
RUSHING Att Gain Loss Net Avg TD Long
Jeremy Milne UCF 89 731 29 702 7.9 6 72
Stuart Duncan GL 51 326 40 286 5.6 3 29
Tom Pagett TT 67 317 33 284 4.2 2 41
Jeremy "Six Million Dollar" Milne - 731yds in gains in just five games with 6td's to show for it. This is more than double the closest competitor and speaks volumes for Milne's ability at Running Back. Not only is he one of the fastest players in the game but he knows how to follow his blocks and never gives up. Add to that the bizarre habit of defenders to always attempt to wrap him up around his shoulders instead of tackling him low and stopping his momentum I can only come to one conclusion, he's a jedi and as people come in to tackle him he is using his jedi mind trick telling them "Tackle me high" or "I'm not the ball carrier you are looking for". He is one of the most talented players in the game and from what I can tell is a pretty nice guy off the pitch as well.
Stuart "Vin" Duncan - Stu has been putting in the hard yards for the Gladiators this season averaging 5.6yds a carry. His ability to turn on a dime and follow his blockers is testament to his ability but one of his biggest qualities in my opinion is his ability to shed a tackle and turn what looks like a play that was going to get 3yds into a td run. Hard working player that gives his all each season.
Tom "The Menace" Pagett - What a difference a bit of experience can bring. Tom's first season at the Tornadoes didn't have anywhere near the same impact that he has made this season and it is good to see he has taken the lessons learned in his rookie season and trained to improve. Averaging 4.2yds a carry he is making the yards needed to get the first down for his team and considering his improvements this season I look forward to seeing him keep improving from year to year.
PASSING Att Comp Int Yards Pct TD Long Effic
Joseph Taula GW 105 42 2 765 .400 8 86 122.53
Steve Finlay GL 82 42 3 772 .512 7 71 151.16
Luke Job UCF 78 37 2 402 .474 6 45 110.98
Joseph "Torpedo Joe" Taula - I haven't seen Joe do any monster hits since his first game when I dubbed him "The Hammer" so it's back to "Torpedo Joe" as he has been launching plenty of torpedoes all season long. I can't remember the last time I saw a player step onto the field and in their first game make such a big statement. Since then Joe has been continuing to play his brand of football and been making big passes all over the field. I can't remember a time in the league where we have had so many teams with such a solid passing game.
Steve "Big Ben" Finlay - At the halfway mark Steve has put together a QB Efficiency rating of 151.16. That is a hell of an effort from the big man and with the solid receiver corp he is working with combined with the coaching of the Australian Quarterbacks/Wide Receivers Coach, John "Hollywood" Roe, I can only see Fin getting even better which is a pretty scary thing for his opposition to consider.
Luke "The Hand" Job - I never thought I'd see it but Luke certainly is "The Hand" this season. He has put together a great passing game that picks apart the opposition keeping them guessing if Milne is going to run or Luke is going to pass. An already talented player, Luke's passing game this season has taken the Firebirds offence to another level and made their already dangerous offence even more deadly.
PASS RECEIVING No. Yards TD Long Avg
Anthony Pezzullo TT 18 291 2 39 16.2
Junior Lasaele GL 16 300 5 62 18.8
Mark Burrage GW 14 328 1 86 23.4
Anthony "Softy" Pezzullo - Softy has been having a blinder of a season and has made some of the most spectacular catches so far. His spider monkey catch during the game against the Centurions has to have been one of the greatest intercept thefts I've ever seen and was brilliantly caught to be recorded for all eternity by Nadoes photographer Jenna.
Junior "Lights Out" Lafaele - After speaking with a number of sources I discovered that Junior's surname is actually Lafaele, apologies for the spelling error. When a rookie comes along and makes as big an impact as Junior you have to applaud it. He's accomplished more in half a season than what most veteran receivers could hope to accomplish, imagine what Junior will be like once he has some more experience under his belt. Amazing debut for a rookie gridiron player, I can't wait to see what he brings for the remainder of the season.
Mark "In the Bank" Burrage - Hands, this has been the big thing missing from the Wildcats receivers for the majority of the season but Mark has been a reliable receiver for the Wildcats QB to pass to. With an average gain of 23.4 yds per reception you really can't ask for more from a receiver.
RETURNS FOR TD:
KICK RETURNS No. Yards TD Long Avg
Junior Lasaele GL 6 292 2 90 48.7
FUMBLE RETURNS No. Yards TD Long Avg
Sean Gautusa GW 1 66 1 66 66.0
Tino Faletaogo GL 1 48 1 48 48.0
Junior "Lights Out" Lafaele - This guy again, please Junior get out of the spotlight mate, you'll go blind.
Sean "Bullrush" Gautusa - No one will forget the barnstorming run Bullrush made after scooping the ball up from an unlucky fumble. I think if you put a brick wall in the way he would simply have run straight through it he was that determined to cross the line and credit to him. A workhorse of a player who isn't afraid to speak his mind, expecting a big second half of the season from the big man.
Tino - What can't Tino do, he puts on big hits, make's picks and returns fumbles for TD's. Best safety in the comp hands down.
DEFENSE T AT TLoss/Yds Sacks/yds FF FR INT BRK KB
Grant Clark CN 37 7 5 15 0.00 0 1 0 0 0 0
Field Cody TT 28 8 2 12 0.00 0 0 0 0 0 0
Will Tabrett TT 25 4 3 5 0.00 0 0 1 0 1 0
Grant "The Warden" Clark - Good luck getting out of this guys house of pain, doesn't matter how you try to break out he is going to track you down and lock you up. 37 tackles plus 4 assists, this guy is busy trying to shut everything down and is a standout for the Centurions.
Cody & Will "Tabs" Tabrett - The Terrible Two - Cody is another player you don't need to make nicknames for and once again he is working his guts out for the Nadoes this season. Joining him in a bit of a friendly competition to see who can make more tackles is Will "Tabs" Tabrett who is currently losing the race in the tackle count but only by 3 tackles. Forget the Large Hadron Collider in Switzerland, if someone is hit by both of these guys at the same time the impact will cause a black hole to erupt from their bodies and end the world as we know it. You've been warned.
Cheers
Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 24/09/2011 5:02:46 AM
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Round 6 Preview
The 2nd half of the season has turned around and the race to the finals well and truly begins. At this stage most of the teams still have a very good chance of making the finals so it will be interesting to see how the next five games pan out. Game 1 - Astros (1-4) vs Wildcats (2-3) The Astros will be taking on the Wildcats in the first game of the round and this could well turn in to a slugfest or worst case a forfeit before the kickoff. I personally don't know how the Astros have healed up from last week but fingers crossed the injuries they've been copping won't hamstring them and we get to see a game happen. Things to watch: Wildcats QB - I'm interested to see if Torpedo Joe or Patch Adams step in at QB this weekend for the Wildcats. While Joe has been having a blinder at QB Patch went okay in the face of an in form Tornadoes defence. Showers or Sun - If the showers they have been predicting do occur this could well turn into a game decided by which team can run the ball better. On one side you have Paris and Fooks who always fight for that extra inch and on the other side you have Sean aka Bullrush who isn't afraid to pound the ball up the middle and can turn the momentum of a game as proven with his fumble return for a td. If the Wildcats want to shut down the Astros running game they will need to dominate the Astros O-Line and if the Astros want to shut down the Wildcats run let Sean run the ball for 99yds at the cost of a td as this type of yardage in one run should give him a coronary and take him out of the game ;p or have the Wildcats coaches been doing cardio sessions over the last few weeks . Astros Offence - Last week the Astros put together two monster drives that were only stopped short of the line thanks to some great defence from the Gladiators. If they can get this momentum happening again it could well be a long day at the office for the Wildcats. Game 2 - Centurions (0-5) vs Gladiators (5-0) Game 2 sees the most successful team so far this season facing the most unlucky team this season. Even when things are being executed right by the Cents they seem to just not be able to get a break. Unless this bad luck can be broken the final march to the end of the season could be an agonising one for the Purple People Eaters. Things to watch: Gladiators D - Following a less than stellar set of defensive drives last week word on the street has it that the Gladiators chose a unique exercise to motivate their defenders during the week to be aggressive and stop the ball carrier from crossing the line. The defence had shock collars put round their necks and sensors were set up on the line of scrimmage. Each time the ball crossed the line the defenders closest to the ball were zapped and needless to say after convulsing on the ground for 10 seconds like a raver high as a kite and pooping themselves the D didn't let that ball get past that line again. The Last Boy Scout - Pete has finally found his master play, it's not run middle, it's not hail mary, it's Desert Eagle 45mm. After watching The Last Boy Scout during the week he realised he had found his answer. That's right ladies and gentlemen, the Centurions will all be packing heat on the weekend and will be approaching every pass and run guns blazing, "Ain't Life a B!tch!" Cents Offence - With their season sitting at 0-5 they Cents need their offence to step up this week and start putting points on the board. They have the talent to accomplish this and have shown flashes of brilliance but when your luck isn't with you, it makes games a real b!tch. My pick for the first play of the game, school bus cleans up the entire Cents Offence ala Final Destination. Game 3 - Firebirds (4-1) vs Tornadoes (3-2) This for me will be the game of the round, the Tornadoes have the opportunity to move level with the Firebirds on points and make the fight for first place even more intense. In their first meeting the Firebirds won 14-0 but if it wasn't for some gutsy defence stopping the Nadoes on the 1yd line and Softy dropping a guaranteed td pass... F##K YOU SOFTY!!!!!..... Sorry I had money riding on that game, sorry Softy you've been going brilliantly since then....where was I... then who knows what the final score may have been. Things to watch: Defence Brutality - The Firebirds and the Tornadoes both have great defensive units and I cannot wait to see them in action. On one side you've got a defence led by Reece "FML" Cheater who is so angry at the world he headbutts babys and punches puppies and on the other side you have Cody "Stitch This" Field leading the Nadoes D in between teaching Chuck Norris how to fight. Decimation - Mark my words people, if the Firebirds give Shawn attitude during this game and start talking back like last week, they won't be doing up downs or any other punishment, no sir. Shawn will be going old school, I mean old old school all the way to Roman times. He will be copying their Roman Legion punishment for units that shamed Rome and will be executing 1 in 10 players right there on the pitch. In regards to this, I implore you Shawn, if it comes to this do it at training, think of the Centurions who have duty and will need to clean the mess up. Picking up empty drink bottles ok, picking up dead bodies not so much. Big Kev - Like Big Kev says, I'm excited. I think this will be a great game and it's an important one. Considering last week we had a whopping 20 people in the entire field watching the final game, hopefully we have a hell of a lot more this week for the final game. |
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By Hail to the Chimp - 26/09/2011 4:00:38 AM
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Round 6 Review
Game 1 - Wildcats 20 defeat Astros 8 Well the Astros certainly did bring it to this game and at half time were in the lead. Unfortunately a combination of a brilliant opening kick-off return for td in the 2nd half by Patrick Mollor and lack of numbers had the Astros on the backfoot and victory slipped from the grasp. Game Highlights: Welcome back to the field Tim - Big Tim McArthur stepped back onto the field and led his team to victory with some great passes and some good scrambles including a matrix like dodge near the sideline when an Astro looked certain to clean Tim up only to dive into his own player while Tim dodged in a blur to the side. It was also good to see him coaching the game in between plays. That's two coaches playing, 4 to go. Numbers game - The Astros looked good in the first half but after a couple of players got taken off, including one of the nastiest block in the backs I've seen in a long time on their number 23, playing iron man football took it's toll and the Wildcats used it to their full advantage and took the lead back and never looked like giving it up. Important Win - The Wildcats needed this win to stay in the race for the finals and with only 4 games to go it will be interesting to see if they can maintain there form and make the final 3. Game 2 - Gladiators 36 defeat / forfeited Centurions 0 Two weeks, two forfeits. It's a shame to see this happen in the ACTG comp and even more sad considering the difference between the situations. The Astros had to forfeit due to player numbers and injuries last week but I'm not too sure why the Centurions forfeited this week considering they went down to the Firebirds last week 42-0 and the game went to the whistle. I know that an altercation broke out early in the second half but both players left the field (I thought only one was ejected) and while they game's intensity lifted following this incident I couldn't see anything else dirty happening. Game Highlights: Moves Like Swagger - Maroon 5 will be releasing a b-side to their song Move's like Jagger in honour of Gladiators #25 Junior Lafaele , damn this guy can play. Defence - The Gladiators D started off a little slowly again but after shaking off the opening funk they shut down everything the Centurions had to throw at them and made some monster hits and big picks, shutting down anything and everything the Centurions could offer. The last time I saw such a one sided battle was Poland, 1939. Forfeits - We really need to get rid of forfeits with the exception of the result of injuries and lack of players. People play plenty of money to play this game and I'm pretty sure that the Gladiators would be pretty p!$$ed off that back to back they've only gotten to play a half of football each week. Game 3 - Firebirds 30 defeat Tornadoes 6 Wow, I was expecting a completely different game but the Firebirds meant business from the opening kick and just kept piling up the points. Big game from the Birdies coming into the break. Game Highlights: Run Milne Run - The Milne show was in full effect with the Firebirds misdirection plays and tosses notching up big gains for the Firebirds. Tackle low people, you take this guy heads up and he'll punish you for not tackling properly. That or visit him and work and 'accidentally' drop a photocopier on him. Sneaky, Sneaky QB - Two QB sneaks from Luke for TD's showed that Luke isn't happy to let Milne hog all the glory. But none of this would be possible without his O-Line doing their job on the day. It will be interesting to see how Sam Babic is doing as it appeared he hurt his finger in the middle of the game and missed a bit of the match. Losing Sam would be a big blow as he is a standout at centre and leads the way for the offence. Big game next week - This loss paves the way for a big game next week between the Tornadoes and Wildcats. Both teams are now neck and neck in third spot with the Wildcats leading on points difference. The Nadoes will be looking to notch up a big win next week to get a buffer between themselves and the Wildcats. |
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By Hail to the Chimp - 26/09/2011 10:00:30 AM
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Actually I didn't miss it, and I did actually see that play and the player connected as the whistle was finished being blown which for me is at worst borderline and the sideline referee was standing right in front of the hit and he was taking a good look at it. I'm also pretty sure they ejected a player for fighting, and Pete ejected his own player, or said player had enough and left as well. This is a contact sport and I've only seen a few hits this season I would say are questionable and only 1 or 2 that should have gone to a judiciary for review over the last few years (and I believe 1 did? can anyone confirm this). The referees do there best to handle the situation on the field and in regards to your question about why we don't have a judiciary, we do. Go to the ACTG Website and check out the form entitled ACTG Judiciary Procedures 0210. Do other leagues have a judiciary... I don't know, but we sure do. Cheers Chimp Lemonaide (25/09/2011)
Hail to the Chimp (25/09/2011)
Round 6 Review
Game 2 - Gladiators 36 defeat / forfeited Centurions 0
Two weeks, two forfeits. It's a shame to see this happen in the ACTG comp and even more sad considering the difference between the situations. The Astros had to forfeit due to player numbers and injuries last week but I'm not too sure why the Centurions forfeited this week considering they went down to the Firebirds last week 42-0 and the game went to the whistle. I know that an altercation broke out early in the second half but both players left the field (I thought only one was ejected) and while they game's intensity lifted following this incident I couldn't see anything else dirty happening.Perhaps Pete pulled the plug on playing to protect his young team from the game degenerating into a brawlfest? After the fight it did look like the "intensity" (as you put it) lifted. Personally I would call it cheap shots (and before you attack me, I'd say it was on both sides of the ball.) But the play that looked to end it all was the late hit after the whistle which the refs missed, and I'm guessing you did too Chimp?
I don't like teams pulling the plug in the middle of the game but the refs are being very lenient on allowing players to continue playing. Eject them, make them sit in the stands for the rest of the game. I mean seriously how many times do we have to see players lose control of their emotions? How many fights do we have to have? Why don't we have a judiciary? How can players that are getting ejected two or three times in a season keep just playing the following week no lessons learnt? Its the equivalent of a smack on the wrist...
Do other leagues have a judiciary?
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By Hail to the Chimp - 12/09/2011 11:59:04 PM
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Wikus,
I agree that any concerns in regards to penalties should be taken up with the referees and the ACTG committee. Voicing them here doesn't resolve anything. I used to whinge about bad penalties on here until I was blue in the face but surprise, surprise nothing changed, and nor should it. The only people issues like this should be going to are the above mentioned groups and it should be the coaches and club reps doing it.
I saw a number of bad calls made and some blatant penalties ignored on the weekend and until this is addressed and acknowledged using the correct channels nothing will change. While some of these penalties may have been due to genuine blind spots (love your 97% blind spot comment Wikus, spot on for 1 or 2 refs imo too), if you can't be impartial as a referee and call a penalty on a player regardless of the club their with or who their opponent is then you have absolutely no business being on the field. All you are doing is dragging the game down and building resentment within clubs over decisions. My top 3 referees are Coach Hollywood, Coach Shawn and Coach Nathan.
I have never seen them make an intentional bad call or ignore a penalty that directly affects the game (in my opinion), if asked why a penalty was called they will explain it to a coach and they are consistent week in and week out. This doesn't mean I think less of the other referees as I believe 90% of them are doing the best they can but I do believe that were we to lose 1 or 2 refs who are happy to stand there and fill in the numbers but not actually make the calls that need to be made or ref impartially then we will be much better off.
Cheers
Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 13/09/2011 2:02:59 AM
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Lemonaide (12/09/2011)
Hail to the Chimp (12/09/2011)
Wikus,
I agree that any concerns in regards to penalties should be taken up with the referees and the ACTG committee. Voicing them here doesn't resolve anything. I used to whinge about bad penalties on here until I was blue in the face but surprise, surprise nothing changed, and nor should it. The only people issues like this should be going to are the above mentioned groups and it should be the coaches and club reps doing it.So I'm not allowed to ask a question of when is someone classed as a defenceless player? We all come here to discuss the game and parts of the game. Some are simple discussions that end quickly and others get dragged out while different opinions are put out there until a consensus is reached and opinions are changed. No-one has given me any reference to any ruling about when is a player classed as defenceless? My examples were simply that, examples of recent plays. If I could think of any others I'd watched over the last 4 weekens then i would have.
What part of that response was directed at you Lemonaide. Last time I checked I was responding to Wikus' comment not yours. If you'd actually kept your initial comment to simply asking about player protection as your implying here instead of also having a go at *cough* players *cough* I would have written the same response that I gave to Wikus, ask the ACTG committee and referees directly if you feel that this needs to be addressed seriously. I'm not saying other people wouldn't have responded here and I'm sure they would have if they weren't busy correcting your ignorant comments about Tino.
Cheers
Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 13/09/2011 2:41:27 AM
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Ryan (12/09/2011)
[b]Lemonaide (12/09/2011) "different opinions are put out there until a consensus is reached and opinions are changed." When the hell has consensus ever been reached or an opinion ever been changed here?This is an anonymous forum for rumors and false bravado that result in entertainment and humor.
Agreed .......wait a second false bravado.....dammit  , send me your details "Ryan" if that is your real name and I'll meet up with you and show you false bravado. If I fail to make that appointment it is not due to cowardice, fear, realisation that the only punching I know how to do is how to punch the letters on the keyboard or any other cowardly reason. I was simply busy beating someone else up and will get to you later .
Cheers
Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 13/09/2011 3:22:06 AM
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Ryan (12/09/2011)
Hail to the Chimp (12/09/2011)
Ryan (12/09/2011)
[b]Lemonaide (12/09/2011) "different opinions are put out there until a consensus is reached and opinions are changed." When the hell has consensus ever been reached or an opinion ever been changed here?This is an anonymous forum for rumors and false bravado that result in entertainment and humor. Agreed .......wait a second false bravado.....dammit , send me your details "Ryan" if that is your real name and I'll meet up with you and show you false bravado. If I fail to make that appointment it is not due to cowardice, fear, realisation that the only punching I know how to do is how to punch the letters on the keyboard or any other cowardly reason. I was simply busy beating someone else up and will get to you later . Cheers Chimp I don't know "Chimp", which I am sure is your real name. This sounds like set up to me. You can keep your bravado in your pants cause I'm not interested.
LOL
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By Hail to the Chimp - 14/09/2011 9:01:26 PM
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Round 5 Preview
We are coming up the final round of the first half of the season and I believe that the football is only going to be getting better from here, except from the Centurions, they have the Firebirds and I think this could be a painful one for them that could end in a big loss. On a bright note that means I've officially given my first kiss of death for the season to the Firebirds by tipping them so congrats Centurions your first win should definitely be around the corner. Firebirds, I must apologise as my tips usually always end with something bizarre happening so when a kangaroo hops onto the field, picks up Shawn and shoves him in their pouch, hopping away into the distance while he screams "I'm not your damn joey" you can blame me.
Game 1 - 10:00am, Wildcats (2-2) vs Tornadoes (2-2)
This could well be the game of the round as both teams showed great form last weekend putting in crushing wins over their respective opponents. On one side you have the Nadoes who appear to have found their form after a slow build up and on the other you have the Wildcats who appear to have covered their receivers hands in crazy glue as they started catching the ball last weekend. Make sure you get in early for the first game it should be a cracker (Chimp accepts no responsibility if this game turns out to be a dud, causes people to go into a coma from boredom or ends in a dreaded 0-0 tie or people get piles from sitting on the cold metal seats in the stands).
Things to watch:
Blitzkreig - 312yds and 311yds, these are the total yards gained in offence to the Tornadoes and Wildcats respectively last week. If they can maintain this form coming into the game then I think which ever team's offence can find their feet first will win. Players to watch on offence for the Nadoes are Matthew "Frothy" Rothwell at RB, Tom "The Menace" Pagett also at RB and Anthony "The Spider Monkey" Pezzullo at receiver. For the Wildcats the big guns to watch will be Joseph "The Hammer" Tuala at QB, Sean "Bullrush" Gautusa at RB and Michael "Kenny G" Radisich at WR.
Who the hell is Kieran Mcnamara? - The question on every person in Canberra's lips is "Who the hell is Kieran Mcnamra?", okay well probably just mine but considering he dominated the tackle count for the Nadoes last week with 8 tackles including a sack it's a valid question. Expecting big things from Kieran "Who" Mcnamara this weekend, and if he doesn't deliver, f##k him, I've always got Cody and Tabs to fall back on giving a rap to .
Undisciplined Rabble - The Wildcats massed a total of 150yds in penalties last weekend compared to the Nadoes 56yds, that's almost 3 times as many yards lost to penalties (that's right people, I know basic math... I think). If they can't keep their discipline in check then they could risk handing the game to the Nadoes through silly mistakes.
Game 2 - 12:45pm, Gladiators (4-0) vs Astros (1-3)
4-0, this is the first time in club history that the Glads have accomplished this milestone (not to mention 1-0 then 2-0 followed by 3-0). Standing in their way are the Astros who are still smarting from their loss last week to the Nadoes and believe me they will be looking to spoil the Glads getting their 5th consecutive win. The Astros have proven on many occasions that if a team comes in underprepared they will regret it, something I'm certain the Glads are well aware of.
Things to watch:
Bunks, Bullys & Larry - John "Bunk" Tolsher, Jayson "The Bully" Kirk and Larry have all been playing some dominant football for the Glads this season and last weekend was no exception. Jayson led the way with 6 tackles and 1 assist and his ability to read the play has caused headaches for the opposition each week. John "Bunk" Tolsher, the man beaver, has come back from the World Cup and been tearing it up at defensive end (seriously this guys nuts, anyone crazy enough to grow an afro and then shave a chunk of their hair off at the back to make it look like the air force dropped a daisy cutter on his head is bad a$$ in my opinion) and with a player who doesn't need a nickname or surname to be identified, all you need to say is "Larry" and pee stains appear on opponents legs, playing defensive end on the other side of the line you have one hell of a headache to overcome.
Running game - The Astros only threw 3 passes last week and the rest of their plays were runs. The fact that they still put together over 100yds of rushing on the Nadoes means they have a ground game that works and if their o-line can find its feet and give Paris the time to pass then their offence can find its feet which will be critical coming into the second half of the season.
Light the Spark - 0-11 3rd Down Conversions, 115 yds, 2 touchdowns, these are the stats for the Gladiators offence last weekend. 312yds, the amount of yards the Tornadoes put on the Astros. Both teams need to light a spark on a part of their game as the run to the finals rears its head. Gladiators offence needs to execute as a unit this weekend, it is something they've been able to do in every previous game but last weekend they were anything but the Gladiators offence seen previously. Astros defence needs to lift its game or risk bleeding points because if you give away over 300yds in a game it's only going to hurt you. I'm certain both teams will be ironing out the kinks this week at training and I can't wait to see what they bring to the table this weekend.
Game 3 - 3:30pm, Centurions (0-4) vs Firebirds (3-1)
This is it, the end of the world, my first tip for the season. Can the Firebirds break my sorry curse allowing me to finally bet on other sporting events and win or will a ufo appear and zap up Job, Milne and every other talented Firebird player to experiment on until the end of time crippling their offence, well other teams can only hope.
Things to watch:
Reece "Fair Play" Cheater - 7 tackles plus 1 assist including 3 tackles for a combined loss of 16 yards. With the Cheater leading the way on the Firebirds D any offence facing him needs to factor him into their game plan. Thank god you're good at football Cheater because your camerawork on WIN TV reminds me of an epileptic on speed . Sorry mate, haters got to hate.
Which Offence will the Centurions roll out this week? - At the request of a curious party on The Bear, and Pete apparently I can give you the inside scoop on what the Centurions will be rolling out this week. It will be a mongrel hybrid of the Wildcat formation mixed in with Pistol plus I formation. The formation while not yet officially named is known around the Centurions camp as the I Pis on Wildcat formation. While no one knows if this will even work, I'm pretty sure the Gungahlin Wildcats will be taking offence to such a blatant dig at their team, shame on you Pete, shame on you.
Centurions D - It would be easy to write off the Centurions but if you look at their stats against the Wildcats they have a D that can do its job, it just needs its offence to give them time to rest. Players like Grant "Garfield" Clark and Grant "Iceman" Frost have stepped up week in week out for the club and I'm sure will do so again this week. Add to this 3 other players on the D each getting a tackle for a loss of 8-10yds each shows they have it in them to create an upset, will the Centurions O follow them to the promised land or will they drill holes in their boat and make them languish on despair island with them for all eternity or until the end of the season at least.
Cheers
Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 18/09/2011 6:54:03 AM
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Game 5 Review
Well I saw two things today I really don't ever want to see again plus plenty of things I did. Game 1 - Tornadoes 7 defeat Wildcats 0 The first game saw the Tornadoes take down the Wildcats 7-0 in what for me was a game I expected to be decided by offence but was instead done by defence. Game Highlights: Dominant defence - This is the first time I've seen the Wildcats stopped from scoring anything this season and I have to tip my hat to the Nadoes defence. They came out with a plan and shut down everything the Wildcats threw at them. This was highlighted by a 1-on-1 strip following a beautiful deep pass by the Wildcats late in the game and what can only be described as a judo style throw by Cody 'Judo' Field. Climb every mountain - The right tackle for the Nadoes was throwing a few cut blocks during the game and the Wildcats defensive end responded by treating his body like Mt Everest and scaling it to chase after the play. If your going to throw a cut block make sure you take his legs out from under him next time as I'd hate be on the receiving end of some studs from an angry defensive end. I'm not sure what the Wildcats end was thinking but I hope he enjoyed the view. If it ain't broke don't fix it - I don't know why the Wildcats were mixing up their QB's but after seeing what The Hammer could do in the last 4 rounds I have no idea why he didn't play that position all game and fingers crossed he will be there all game next week. Congratulations - Well done Wildcats and Tornadoes, your the only game this week that didn't end with some form of controversy. Game 2 - Gladiators 24 defeat Astros 0 (Forfeit) Well we had a great opening to the first half followed by a horrible finish to it. The Astros chose to forfeit the match even though from what I could count from the stands they had enough players to keep going. Fair enough you have a few injuries and emotions are riding high but I'm sad to see any game end in a forfeit. Game Highlights: Junior "Say Ow" - Junior, #25 of the Gladiators opened the game with a monster kick return for a touchdown highlighted by some brilliant blocking from the Gladiators special team squad. This is his second kick return for a td if my memory serves me correct and I cannot wait to see what he has in store for the rest of the season. Hell of a player and a hell of an entertainer. Sniper in the stands - I don't know what the Astros did during warmups but I don't know if they were stretching. They had players dropping like flys and I for one was looking around the roof of the grandstand for a sniper dressed in green picking them off one by one. Wakey Wakey Defence - I don't know what happened but it's rumoured that someone slipped some sedatives in the Gladiators D's water. Whatever happened the Glads D looked anything but their usual selves for the first part of the game but following two close shaves they stepped up and refused to give the Astros another inch in the second quarter. What would it have been like in the 2nd half, well we can only wonder. Forfeit - WTF Astros, this was the same team I saw last season playing with 15 players and refusing to give an inch and never saying die deciding they would forfeit with what appeared to be enough numbers to keep playing. If this is wrong I apologise but it's a shame to see anyone quit. Game 3 - Firebirds 42 defeat Centurions 0 I'm pretty sure you guys won...didn't you? - The Firebirds capped of a 42-0 demolition with celebrations, cheers for their opponents and then went home looking forward to training and next weeks game. Wait, wait, wait no they didn't, silly me, they did punishment drills and then got blasted by their coach right in front of the team they just beat. Way to let a team know that not only did you beat them 42-0 but you consider them to be so sh!t that you have to do punishment for what? Not making them mercy at half time? I have no drama with Shawn punishing his team on Monday training or blasting them in the lockers but doing that in front of the Centurions and the crowd (granted crowd of about 20) is bad for the sport and a big slap in the face of the Centurions who in my opinion played their guts out all game including a first half where they kept the Firebirds at two td's and if their offence stepped up could have made a real game of it. I'd love to make jokes, give respect to big plays etc but what I witnessed was rubbish and I have nothing else to say about this match. There is nothing wrong with wanting to win and be a disciplined team but there is also nothing wrong with showing a bit of class to a team you just handed the biggest defeat of their season to. Dislike button please. Sorry I didn't make the usual wacky round up for every game but for me today was a bit of a low point for the ACTG 2011 season, fingers crossed next week has nothing but high scores, big plays and monster hits all game long. |
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By Hail to the Chimp - 7/09/2011 8:42:02 AM
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Round 3 Review Well Round 3 has come and gone and what a round it was. It had highs lows and meltdowns, good times for all. Game 1 - Gladiators 37 vs Tornadoes 15 The Gladiators put in a dominant performance with new QB Big Ben facing off against his old club. Game Highlights: Junior "Lights Out" Lasaele - This machine just doesn't know the meaning of the word 'Compromise', seriously, from what his teammates tell me he doesn't. Lasaele was involved in almost every touchdown the Gladiators put together including a monster kick return for a TD that was the perfect response to a Nadoe touchdown that had put them back in the game only a minute before. Michael "Big Dog" Dawson - While Big Ben put in another dominant performance, Dawson stepped up for the Nadoes and put together a solid performance finally finding his rhythm this season. This couldn't come at a better time for Nadoes who will be looking to continue his form next week to get an important second win. Welcome back Fin - The Nadoes D welcomed Fin back with open arms all game, unfortunately it was with bad intentions as the looked to put big hits on him. Cam appeared to put a beauty on him early in the match but Fin shrugged it off and I don't know how. I'm still peeing blood and I just watched it from the stands. Tino "The Wall" - Tino's touchdown killing hit was a massive play that prevented a certain touchdown. I'm pretty sure I saw Tino sitting on the roof of the stands after the game adding the unfortunate receivers scalp to his ever growing collection. Game 2 - Firebirds 28 vs Wildcats 26 The Wildcats erased any doubts their the real deal this season and the Firebirds put together one hell of a comeback to prove why they are seen as one of the most successful clubs in the comp. Game Highlights: How do you solve a problem like Maria.... I mean Milne - Milne proved once again that he can change the momentum of a game in a single play. If any team wants to beat the Firebirds this season they will need to work out a way to shut down Milne's running game. Then they need to remember the Firebirds have other runners as capable as Milne this season plus their passing game is on fire as well. Don't you just hate the Firebirds. The Hammer needs some Hands - The Wildcats will be running an open casting call for season 1 of The Hammer needs some Hands. The will be looking for receivers who can consitently catch the ball as I believe that if they can do this they will be extremly difficult to beat as the only thing killing their passing game is the number of dropped catches. If the Wildcats caught half the passes thrown I think the scoreline would have been much much different to the final result. Happy Coaches - If you think the Firebirds were punished for their performance on Saturday having to duck walk back to Belconnen for almost letting the game slip away your wrong. They had to do the Burma Railroad around and around the nightclub block in Civic until they puked upon which they celebrated their victory until they puked. Game 3 - Astors 20 vs Centurions 0 The Astros finally got a win this season at the expense of the bottom of the ladder Centurions who are still looking for that elusive first win. Game Highlights: SHUT UP!!!!!! - http://youtu.be/h885Olxk5R4 This video pretty much captures word for word Pete's response to Dom asking if his player who threw his helmet for the first time should be penalised and then his answer to Dom's question about how he's enjoying being head coach this season. Your first win is just around the corner Pete, just keep your head up, I'm sure your team will lift next week. Paris - When I heard Paris was going to be playing at QB I thought, WTF, then I thought, I'm hungry, and then I thought, QB Sneak. All of my thoughts were justified as I still think Paris is wasted at QB, I was hungry and the QB sneak is a winner for Paris. He definitely had a much better game but maybe next week will prove if it was the best move for the man whose arms have their own postcodes. Why only two comments for the final game - Well that's because as I was about to finish typing this review I accidentaly deleted the whole review, screamed at my computer scream, headbutted my monitor, got a headache, went to bed and then got up and tried to remember what I had written the first time. #53 - Just remembered one last thing, Astros #53 is my new muse, god bless you sir, may your days on special teams never ever end. |
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By Hail to the Chimp - 7/09/2011 7:00:06 PM
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Hi Pete,
As I mentioned in a previous post I made a big mistake in not putting up my report the day of or day after the game. Unfortunately my memory isn't what it used to be and after writing up the report the first time and losing all of it with one poor click of the mouse just as I was typing the Cents vs Astros report I pretty much had a gut full and forgot most of what I wanted to write about from your game and did a rush job about 11pm last night.
In regards to stand out efforts, have no fear these players will be mentioned in round previews once I read stats as being able to point out who is dominating the tackle count is really hard without this.
Also, yes you did carry on like a goose and it was funny as sh!t which is why I mentioned it. But if you didn't carry on like that then I'd know you didn't care about your team which you clearly do, but if I didn't point it out then I wouldn't be maintaining my journalistic integrity..... okay who am I kidding I have no integrity.
Finally what makes you think I forgot about TC's little encounter where he bit off more than he could chew, I believe my round 4 preview will address this little incident.
Cheers
Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 8/09/2011 12:21:34 AM
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Lemonaide,
I don't think I've ever read a username more appropriate for someone as clearly bitter as you. I'm sorry I didn't put together a second by second, play by play recap of everything that happened on the field but I honestly don't have the time to do this. I didn't mention the 'massive' Gladiator facemask for the same reason I didn't mention the 'massive' Tornadoe Facemask by Softy after he got intercepted for the same reason, because I don't think either player did that intentionally and it was simply a reaction to stop the ball carrier. It's a shame that Jenna didn't get a picture of that but I do agree that she is doing a good job taking pictures of everything else going on in the field.
You've blown your argument out of the water admitting the Tornadoes failed to capitalise twice in the redzone thanks to a solid Gladiator defence so I stand by my comment that the Gladiators put in a dominant performance. I actually have a hell of a lot of respect for Coach JB and Coach Josh as well as a hell of a lot of the players on the Nadoes. Every team loses games and it sucks but if I know players like Cody, Cam, Lyle and many other Nadoes, they are not going to waste their time arguing how they lost but will be focused on winning this weekend instead and maintaing their solid defensive effort and taking full advantage of Dawsons form from last weekend. I'd recommend you actually focus on playing hard for your team next week but you definintely sound like the kind of player who is always looking for excuses and looks to blame other people for your mistakes. Which ever team your on I sincerely pity as from the sounds of your whinging that team is effectively playing with 10 men if you step foot on the field.
Cheers
Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 9/09/2011 10:31:34 AM
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Round 4 Preview This weeks preview sees a clash for top spot between the Firebirds and Gladiators, the Wildcats looking to continue the Centurions losing streak and the Tornadoes and Astros both looking for win number 2. This weeks preview will be a quick one but the round 4 review will be back to full size come this weekend. Game 1 - Centurions (0-3) vs Wildcats (1-2) This game could be a great opening game for the round with the Centurions desperate to stop the rot facing a Wildcat pack smarting over a nailbiting loss to the Firebirds last week. While the Wildcats have only won one game this season so far their efforts last week that ignoring them will be at the opposing teams own peril. Things to watch: Wildcats air campaign - Last week saw Joseph Taula get 11 completions from 29 attempts. This isn't the best stat until you see that those 11 completions included 4 touchdowns and a total of 222 yards. If you theorise what could have been accomplished with the other 18 possible completions they could have added up to over 10 millions yards for around 56,000 touchdowns and I'm pretty sure 100 pregnant cheerleaders just for being in the vicinity of such awesomeness. In all seriousness who knows what could have happened but if the Wildcats can put together 4tds and a total of 222yds from just 11 passes who knows what they can accomplish if their receivers turn up with their catching gloves on. 4th times a charm.... isn't it - Centurions need to stop the rot and they need to do it urgently. So far they have made a whopping 0 points in any way shape or form and with some of the talent their sporting on their roster this doesn't make sense. Time to start playing like a unit guys and putting your bodies on the line for each other. Looking at the defensive stats, Grant Clark is a clear standout but then you have an even spread between the remainder of the defence. This shows their defence is trying it's best but if the offence can't put a drive together to let them rest then try as hard as you like your defence will tire and start to bleed points. Game 2 - Astros (1-2) vs Tornadoes (1-2) I'm expecting a very close game as both teams will be looking to clinch a second win and get some momentum early in the season. The improved form of the Astros couldn't come at a better time as the Tornadoes always bring a hard fight regardless of their opponent. I'm also curious to see if TC is silly enough to bite off more than he can chew again considering last weeks effort taking on what appeared to be an opponent about 5 heads taller and 30kgs heavier than him. Things to watch: Run Paris Run - When a QB tops the stats for his teams rushing yards in a game either his O-Line is breaking down in a big way and he made a number of lucky scrambles or he's the option qb from hell. One way or another this question will be answered this weekend as the Tornadoes D will be guaranteed to be testing the Astros O-Line all day long. Tom "The Menace" Pagett - I don't know why but this guy reminds me of a grown up Dennis the Menace ( http://kuweight64.blogspot.com/2011/06/dennis-menace.html), while some may not agree to this I'm pretty sure most people will agree that he has definitely matured as a running back showing no fear in taking on the defence and running the ball for his team. Game 3 - Firebirds (3-0) vs Gladiators (3-0) If this game can be as exciting as both teams games last week then we could be in for one hell of a show. Both teams will be wanting the win to take top spot and it will be interesting to see how each coach has planned to get the victory this week. Things to watch: Firebirds running game - 345yds rushing. The Firebirds have a passing game too this season but yards gained rushing last week speaks for itself as this many yards in one game is massive. Shut down the running game and your one step closer to victory. Easy to say but actions speak louder than words. Big Show - Both teams have made some massive touchdown plays with Milne, Simpson and I'm pretty sure Milne once again doing some huge touchdowns for the Firebirds and players like Junior, Jerry and Tino making some highlight reel touchdowns for the Gladiators so far. I can't pick who will be the first highlight reel td of this game but I'll be stunned if one doesn't happen. Should be a great round of football. |
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By Hail to the Chimp - 9/09/2011 11:08:58 PM
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Bullrush
The day I start picking winners will be the day the lynch mob finally decides its time to string me up. Anytime I decide to tip a team it is the godzilla of all kiss of death curses. I could tip New Zealand to beat the ficitional late entry country of Wimponia in the World Cup, where every player on the Wimponia team is 5ft, have no muscle what so ever and are all blind and then by me giving my hot tip, Wimponia would not only go on to beat New Zealand by around 50pts, but every key playmaker of the Kiwi squad will also get injured and miss the rest of the cup. That is how good my tips are
BUT!!!!, Everyone please feel free to come on and tip which teams you think will win on the weekend and by how much. It's good to get a discussion going on what people think other teams chances are and hats off to Sean for admitting some bias in favour of his team, nothing wrong with that.
Cheers
Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 12/09/2011 10:01:48 AM
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Round 4 Review
Round 4 has come and gone and the Gladiators have broken the deadlock for first place while the Tornadoes and Wildcats have emerged to notch up their second win each with both teams showing brilliant form.
Game 1 - Centurions 8 vs Wildcats 32
The Wildcats have added to the Centurions horror start to the season with a crushing victory over the cellar dwellers. The only bright spot of the loss for the Centurions was when they finally opened their account scoring their first td of the season.
Game Highlights:
Michael "Whoopie" Radisich - Holy sh!t the man has found his hands and it feels good! Not only did Whoopie reel in a 58yd td pass from Joseph "The Hammer"Taula but he also returned a fumble for a td and caught a pass for a 2pt conversion to cap off a very good day for the man who proves the Kenny G hairstyle has never died.
Kris "KC" Cannon - Had a hell of a game and was one of the best on the field for the Centurions. On one of his opening runs he absolutely levelled a Wildcat unfortunate enough to get in his way. Can anyone confirm if he is okay as I did see him come off the field clutching his hand or arm and an injury for him would be a big loss to the club.
Bullrush makes the highlight reel - Well Bullrush made a monster 66yd touchdown from a fumble and entered the seasons growing highlight reel. I have to admit that I swore your knee was down when you recovered the ball. But no whistles were blown and the refs were right there so all good . Hats off to you for a barnstorming return for a touchdown, you looked pretty stuffed after the run Sean, maybe some cardio training in the offseason .
What Luck - Pretty much nothing could go right for the Centurions yesterday. The prime example of this horrendous luck was when the Centurions secondary did the right thing and try to strip the ball from Mark Burrage and succeeded, only to see it bounce towards Whoopie who ran it in for a touchdown. Seriously Pete, find that gypsy you hit with your car on the way to game 1 and beg for forgiveness because her curse sucks.
Game 2 - Astros 0 vs Tornadoes 32
Well game 2 was pretty much a clinic in football by the Tornadoes who absolutely destroyed the Astros with a shutout win capped off by td's in every quarter.
Game Highlights:
Run and Gun - The Tornadoes pretty much scored at will witha solid running and passing game that carved apart the Astros D. Antony "Softy aka Spider Monkey "Pezzullo and Matthew "Frothy" Rothwell shared two td's a piece with Tom "The Menace" Pagett bagging one in the final quarter.
No please, after you - The most bizarre play of the game came with Softy's first touchdown. After catching the ball close to the sideline and being wrapped up by three Astro's defenders they appeared to just let him go and let Softy do a little spin out of their arms and stride into the endzone for the opening points of the game. I don't know what happened but rumour is all three players experienced an epiphany at the same time, they all realised that the Wildcats were the first team to be scored against by the Centurions this season and felt a wave of relief followed by a sense of horror as Softy crossed into the endzone.
Whose house? - Nadoes house, the Nadoes shut down everything the Astros had to throw at them and never let their foot off the throat of the Astros all game. Classic Nadoes Defence.
Game 3 - Firebirds 14 vs Gladiators 16
The final game was a nailbiter right to the final whistle with the Gladiators taking an early lead and the Firebirds fighting them for the lead in a standout defensive effort from both teams.
Game Highlights:
Defence - Hats off to both defensive units, they put in a hell of an effort for the entire game. This match promised to be a high scoring encounter but this wasn't to be. There were bone crunching hits all game and some momentum swinging picks that kept the outcome of the game swinging back and forth and made for the second game in consecutive weeks that kept me on the edge of my seat.
Tino - Comparing Tino to TC is like comparing Lemonaide to a person whose opinion people give a shit about. Tino has been a major factor in every game for the Gladiators this season and has developed into the best safety in the league over the last few seasons. Keep up the good work Tino.
Bring on game 2 - If the first game is going to be as tense as this one then bring on round 2. While it wasn't the highest scoring game of the round this game determined top of the table between the two previously undefeated teams. Round 1 has gone to the Gladiators and I'm certain both teams cannot wait for the rematch.
Cheers
Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 30/08/2011 7:26:57 PM
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Quick update!
Just read the stats for Round 2 and the 13 tackles for Cody and Tabs actually included assists. They got 9 and 10 tackles respectively. This makes things even more interesting as they are now both sitting on 17 tackles each not including assists. 17 tackles in two games is as I said before a hell of an effort and with 8 games left in the regular season triple digits is definitely a possibility. Can anyone confirm what the record is for tackles in a season by an individual? I'm looking at you Nathan
Cheers
Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 2/09/2011 5:19:32 AM
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Round 3 Preview
Round 3 is only two sleeps away and in my opinion could well be one of the most interesting rounds of the season. All three games are important for different reasons and promise to be entertaining games all day long.
Game 1 - Gladiators (2-0) vs Tornadoes (1-1)
The first game of the round sees the Gladiators with new QB Steve "Big Ben" Finlay face off against his former club the Tornadoes. For the Gladiators they will be looking to make it 3 from 3 and the Tornadoes will be looking to continue their winning way following last weeks victory over the Centurions.
Things to watch:
Big Ben - Fin has been having a blinder of a season so far and will be looking to continue his form in game 3. This success doesn't just stem from his form but that of his o-line and receiver corp. Looking to shut that down this week will be his former club and it will be interesting to see if they keep their cool and play the solid defensive game that shut out the Centurions last week or if they will see red and focus on getting big hits on Fin.
Defence - For this game I really think the defence of both teams will be what wins or loses it on the day. If you look at the fact that both teams have some of the heaviest hitters in the comp this match could well have some monster hits on show. Cody, Larry, Tolsh.. sorry I mean Bunk, Tabs, Cam, Tino, Kirky, Hunter, Macca and many more all on one field, Giggity Giggity.
Battle of the Coaches - Rumour has it that coach JB has decided to pad up at nose tackle to face off against coach Old at Centre. Hopefully this happens as I've never heard of coaches battling each other both mentally and physically at the same time. These are the only two coaches I could actually see playing this season as the Astros coach is invisible which is illegal, Pete has a bionic arm which is illegal, Luds is a lover not a fighter...which is illegal and Shawn, well Shawn's just too damn angry and after getting a flag for roughing the passer I can see him taking off his helmet and biting a ref's nose off. While this would be funny as hell it's not a good look for the ACTG president.
Game 2 - Firebirds (2-0) vs Wildcats (1-1)
Before the season started if you said to me Firebirds vs Wildcats I'd say Firebirds by about a 1000pts. After watching the Wildcats and Firebirds during the last two weeks well I honestly can't pick it. The Firebirds are arguably one of the most well drilled teams in the comp but the Wildcats so far this season should be proud of their efforts and have really stepped up from the smelly depths of poop they were playing last season. This could very well be the game of the round, alternatively the Firebirds are pretty good at identifying every single weakness in a club and destroying them on the field.
Game Highlights:
Hail Mary full of grace - It seemed like every single pass being thrown by the Wildcats last week were at least 20 yard passes or more. The Wildcats had better have been practicing their catching or they may well end up needing some divine intervention as for every successful reception there were a lot of dropped ones.
Luke "O Brother Where Art Thou" Job - Seriously Luke, pull your precious little perfumed and groomed head out and start making the big plays your known for. I know you don't want to mess up your hair but where are the monster hits and runs your known for. 3 runs for 29 yards last week and 114yds passing, who the hell do you think you are, a QB????
Sean "Wrecking Ball" Gautusa - As much as I enjoy watching the Firebirds running game one player who I haven't really been seeing much of this season is Sean Gautusa. I personally think he is one of the more talented truckin backs in the comp and while it's good the Wildcats found a passing game let this freak off his leash please.
The Most Important Question - How long will it be until Murray Coffey prepares one of his special "Coffey Dip" drinks this season. What's that salty taste????
Game 3 - Astros (0-2) vs Centurions (0-2)
The final game sees the two teams voted most likely to disappoint me by me yesterday. I'm expecting big things from this game because as I've learnt to my chagrin once I write someone off they prove me wrong and like a phoenix rising from the ashes they come out stronger. Mark my words this game will be end up finishing around 28-21 and will include some of the biggest hits you'll ever see, amazing runs and big passes. How do I know this? Well that's the dream I've prepared for myself Inception style in case this ends up being a snooze fest. Prove me wrong kids, prove me wrong
Game Highlights:
The Canteen - I'm really looking forward to visiting the canteen at least 3 or 4 times during the game as I usually get quite hungry by game 3.
Big Game - All jokes aside it's time to nut up or shut up for both teams this weekend. Both teams have the players to win a game but until they work as a unit it's not going to happen for them. The Astros need to start blocking for their QB and give him, Jameson and the other receivers time to make the play happen or for Fooks to run the ball. The Centurions while they do have a large number of rookies still have a number of experienced players who will need to step up and lead by example for them to get the win. The Astros really need to find a coach to lift them up and give them their drive back and the Centurions as much as I hang cr#p on them have coaches who have taken the Junior Championship two years running and know what their doing, but a coach can only do so much, it's up to the players on the field to fight for their team to get the win.
A big standout in this attitude in my opinion is Dave 'Rudy' Catanzariti, if the smallest guy on a team can show that much mongrel and fight for every yard well everyone else should be doing it too. Losing sucks, it's all well and good to say at least we had fun but believe me winning is even more fun. If you ask the guy getting his backside stitched up after losing a fight in the showers at San Quentin if he would prefer to win or have fun, well I think you know what his answer will be (that or he will ask for your protection in exchange for a carton of cigarettes). What this example has to do with winning in football I can't really say but I've got Shawshank Redemption on in the background (good movie btw). I think both teams will bring their A-game to this contest and good luck to both of them.
Cheers
Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 2/09/2011 7:12:20 PM
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Holy Crap!!! Gazzumped on a scoop that I can honestly say I missed, I'm slipping, well spotted Ginger. Let's see what punishments are in store this weekend if the Wildcats score on them, and if the Wildcats beat them well I dread to think.
Cheers
Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 2/09/2011 8:52:17 PM
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Butthead73 (2/09/2011)
ps we have won the last 3 junior championships.
I hate you Pete! ;p ......That's two unforgivable mistakes from the Chimp in less than two hours..... Well that's torn it, I'm going to need to be wearing my glasses this weekend and will be setting up cameras around the stadium to try and ensure nothing is missed this weekend. However, if any mistakes are made or funny moments are missed it is completely intentional and not due to old age, senility, stupidity or bad cooking from Mrs Chimp causing me to miss half a game while having convulsions and sobbing on the toile.....too much info, sorry bout that.
Cheers
Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 6/09/2011 10:17:24 PM
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I had the bright idea to wait for the stats to go up before I do my round reviews but still haven't seen any stats on the ACTG Website so the round review will be up this evening. As of next week I am aiming to put the round review up on Sunday and preview by Tue/Wed.
In regards to cut blocks I can understand both arguments as to if it should be banned or not. One of the biggest issues in teams that are struggling for numbers is that they may well end up with players that are undersized for their position on the line and they end up needing to cut block to prevent a d-lineman going straight through them. I have seen players from almost every team make cut blocks at one point or another last season sometimes to the benefit of their team and sometimes to the detriment. As much as it does put players at risk of knee injuries it is something I think will be around for a long time.
Until it is banned in the NCAA rules I don't think there is much chance of getting it banned here. If your facing an o-lineman of equal size or equal strength then more than likely you won't be getting cut block, if your facing a lineman smaller or weaker than you then you have to be prepared to be possibly cut block and should be trained how to avoid. There is no perfect solution but being taught how to beat it while it is allowed is the best one.
Cheers
Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 7/09/2011 2:43:28 AM
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Milehigh
In regards to Cam being a good player at beating a cut block, from what I've seen he is also a nice guy as he lets the poor o-lineman lying facedown know they've failed by giggling as he runs towards the back of the QB and levels him.
Cheers
Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 27/08/2011 12:44:00 AM
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milehigh (26/08/2011)
Well I know one member of the Gladiators knows who the chimp is, so that could be why. Once you lose the anonyminity it might be less fun to pay certain people out Not really Alex, I've seen plenty of people referred to being me and they've always been wrong. It's pretty much business as usual, for instance I thought your Australia uniform was actually quite striking and really stood out from the purple uniforms, shame it didn't rub off on the coaching Cheers Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 27/08/2011 1:05:36 AM
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milehigh (26/08/2011)
If I had a Centurions jacket I would wear it, but I choose to stay warm. I was actually quite pleased with how my guys did thank you. Also the person in question doesn't just 'have a hunch'. In the words of Dennis Green "They were who we thought they were!" As I said mate, I've heard a bunch say they know who it is and by the way that's not quite in the words of Dennis Green, it was actually: "The Bears are what we thought they were. They're what we thought they were. We played them in preseason — who the hell takes a third game of the preseason like it's bullshit? Bullshit! We played them in the third game — everybody played three quarters — the Bears are who we thought they were! That's the way we took the damn field. Now if you want to crown them, then crown their ***! But they are who we thought they were! And we let 'em off the hook!" Also if your cold next time just give me the signal (dance on the spot flapping your arms like a bird while screaming out Tookie Tookie) and I'll run over and give you a blanket, a cup of hot chocolate and tell you it will all be okay Cheers Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 27/08/2011 1:28:05 AM
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Since you all want to know who I am, I decided to do a profile to help you all better understand The Chimp: Born the son of a circus chimp known as Peaches and a crazed hobo, The Chimp was raised by the circus travelling around the backroads of Southern America where he was taught the finer things in life like flinging poo at stupid kids making fun of him and how to use a stick to reach those hard to reach places. After a stopover in Atlanta he witnessed his first game of American Football and was hooked. Realising he needed to better himself in life he taught himself how to read through a combination of n#die magazines and Jacob, the half-blind Armenian juggler. Needless to say this wasn't the best of educations and realising he would never get to play the sport he loved without a better education he said goodbye to the circus and enrolled in night school to realise his dreams. Times were tough for the Chimp and in between classes he made money turning tricks at the local nunnery and posing for some ill advised photos. After many years of hard work and some unfortunate venereal diseases he graduated and went to college. Enrolling at Notre Dame thanks to his connections through the nunnery he made the starting squad as a Linebacker where his combination of rabies and freakish agility saw him succeed at the expense of some stupid midget called Rudy. After being shaved and playing in the NFL for a number of seasons under the assumed name of Ray Bentley, Chimp decided to hang up his boots. Creating a clone from a single strand of his nasal hair he retired from public life while Clone Ray went on to be a successful colour commentator for ESPN and novelist much to the disgust of the Chimp who fled his horrible life choices and came down under. After working odd jobs across Australia he stumbled across the opening round of the 2009 ACTG season while working as a janitor at the University of Canberra and realised he had found his calling. Likes: American Football, Hanging cr#p on everyone, people doing funny things on the football field, bananas, lady chimps, watching fat people run. Dislikes: Alex , Poor reffing, Cheating, Annoying supporters screaming next to me, Canteens running out of food. Cheers Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 27/08/2011 3:39:28 AM
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Lemonaide (26/08/2011)
@ Chimp. No need to get self-protective, just saying I noticed a lack of zing in your usual Gladiators appraisal since the off-season. AndI was wondering why?
Maybe you have taken the addage to heart that blue and green should never be seen?
Sorry, I just had to ask Mrs Chimp what the hell your talking about, I'm still not too sure why your referencing fashion tips but I guess you must be the wife of one of the players in the league. In regards to lack of zing if a team isn't playing below their potential what is there to pay out.
Cheers,
Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 28/08/2011 11:26:43 PM
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Hi all, the Round 2 review coming soon. Some quick highlights to acknowledge before the report include:
Firebirds decimation of the Astros
Nadoes O-Line solid run blocking
Tino taking scalps in the happy hunting grounds
Joseph Taula's big passes
Pete's hat....
And more.
Cheers
Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 30/08/2011 3:30:17 AM
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Round 2 Review
Well Round 2 has come and gone and what started off with a very lopsided victory ended with a very intense and entertaining game to finish the day.
Game 1 - Firebirds 41 vs Astros 6
The Astros horror start to the season has continued with the Firebirds deciding to recreate the piggy scene from deliverance with the unfortunate Astros playing the role of said 'piggy'. Unless something can turn around for the unfortunate Astros it could well be a very, very long season.
Game Highlights:
Just Mean - Not once did the Firebirds take their foot off the Astros throats and apart from a late touchdown to the Astros (props to Paris and Jameson btw, nice play) the Firebirds never ever looked like losing the match. Seriously guys would it be that hard to let one or two tds slip past you and make it look like a bad tackle or have one of your players look like their about to score only to accidentally <wink> fumble the ball back to the Astros. Way to kick a team when it's down.
Slippery Helmet - The Astro's are a wacky bunch, regardless of the on field dramas they decided to have a bit of fun putting grease all over Mitch's helmet during the game so every time he went to take it off it went flying from his hands appearing as if it was being thrown. Fortunately the Astros explained to the ref's that they had pranked Mitch and he wasn't throwing his helmet which explains the ref's leniency on Mitch.
TC Chase Down - TC showed his never say die attitude on the weekend chasing down a ball carrier and ankle tapping him just yards from the endzone to prevent what would have been a definite TD otherwise. How someone who weighs in at 150kg managed to chase anyone down is beyond me but props to TC for grabbing his chins, tucking them into his belt and giving it his all. I said you'd come back from last week's mistakes didn't I, well done TC. ;p Kidding, kidding. It was a great chase down and if everyone on the D puts that effort in each play then a repeat of your 2010 resurgence could well be on its way.
Astros #53 - Special teams + Astros #53 = Winning, that is all. What you want more information, then come down to the game and watch the Astros play this weekend. If this guy doesn't usurp every other player in the comp as most dominant special teams enforcer I don't know who will.
Game 2 - Tornadoes 7 vs Centurions 0
The Tornadoes notched up their first win of the season over the Centurions and please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure this win continues an unbeaten streak against the Centurions. The Chimp is very, very grey in the hair and his memory is fading but I'm pretty sure the Nadoes are yet to be defeated by these guys. It was a very scrappy game that never really took off but the Tornadoes did what needed to be done to get the win.
Game Highlights:
Left Side Strong Side - The Tornadoes O-Line showed flashes of brilliance, especially in the first half which reminded me of why no team in the comp should underestimate their blocking. A big standout was the left side combination of Lyle "Bulldozer" Cameron and Cam "Kong" Dickson. Some of their run blocks in the first half looked like they were parting the Red Sea as they manhandled their opponents giving plenty of open field for their backs to run in. Unfortunately this didn't continue for the O-line in the second half but when you've got linemen playing both ways it's going to be a factor.
Intercept Alley and the Oh No you Don't moment - The Centurions secondary deserve a big nod for their efforts during the game as it seemed like they were picking off passes left and right. This was a big improvement in my books as they seemed to be all over the ball this week. That is with the exception of one absolutely brilliant catch from Softy from the Nadoes who pulled off one of the best catches I've seen in a long time. The catch saw him climbing over the defender like a spider monkey robbing them of an almost certain intercept and keeping the drive alive for his team, great catch from a great player with creepily long limbs (if you want to see a really good pic of the catch head over to http://actgridiron.asn.au/ and check out the round 2 review. Big ups to Jenna for what is probably one of the best, well timed photos I've seen in a long time).
Farmer Pete - Farmer Pete came out to play on the weekend and explained that he approaches training his rookies like he does growing his vegetables on his farm. He said that a rookie takes time to grow and that in the first season you have to nurture them, water them, spray them with all sorts of chemicals and occasionally pour manure all over them until their fully grown and ready to play. What the hell did they teach you in the States Pete .
Tornadoes D - Duelling Banjo's anyone? - Looks like we may have a fight on our hands between Cody Field and Will Tabrett for who can notch up the highest tackle count this season. Apparently both of these guys amassed a whopping 13 tackles a piece not including any assists. That is a hell of an effort to put in and considering last week they had 8 and 7 tackles respectively it will be interesting to see if they can reach triple digits before the end of the season.
Game 3 - Gladiators 20 vs Wildcats 8
What a way to finish the round, an air war between Big Ben and The Hammer, Brutal hits from Tino and a vastly improved Wildcats made for a great end to the day.
Tino "Twentyone Wiggle" Lalofau - Tino walked onto the field just before the start of the game and like any wild animal marked his territory in the middle of the field. Unfortunately the Wildcats weren't warned of this and every time they strayed into his territory he came screaming out from nowhere and claimed another scalp for his cave. One of his hits saw a Wildcat lying on the ground so rattled that he was talking in Ancient Aramaic and ended up peeing out his spleen after the game. His blinder of a game was capped off with a TD from a fumble recovery but why anyone would want to be known as Twentyone Wiggles is beyond me, must be a rap thing.
Air War - Big Ben and The Hammer went at it all day with an air war erupting between the two which in the end saw Big Ben emerge triumphant thanks to his receiver corp and to the drops of the Wildcats receiver corp. Word has it that the Wildcats will add some intensity to training by getting all the Wildcats receivers to have to catch a variety of items being thrown at them like tomahawks, spears, used nappies and an angry midget named Chuck. If they catch them bravo, if they don't, well it could get ugly.
Too much Red Cordial - How many false starts were the Gladiators having during the game. I was so confident in their ability to false start that I went down to the canteen and made myself an omelette during one of their drives. The Glads are going to have to stomp this type of error out quick if they don't want it to bite them in the backside later in the season.
Improvements - This game really had my attention and one of the primary reasons was because of the Wildcats and their massive improvement in the off-season. Compared to last season the Wildcats are a whole new club and it will be interesting to see if this loss causes them to stumble or if they will regain their momentum from their round 1 win coming into round 3.
Well Round 2 managed to be a very entertaining day overall and I cannot wait to see what Round 3 has to offer.
Cheers
Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 16/08/2011 6:38:00 AM
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Round 1 Preview
Well Season 2011 is upon us and this Saturday will see the first games kicking off.
Game 1 - Centurions vs Gladiators
The first game promises to be a big one with the Centurions facing off against the Gladiators. This promises to be an interesting game with the Centurions roster containing a number of junior players taking the step up to seniors. While experience is always a good thing, sending them onto a field filled with not so jolly green giants
Centurions: The Centurions are boasting a roster comprised of a core group of experienced players that has been bolstered by fresh blood not jaded by the run middle days of pretty much since the foundation of the club.
If you visit their website and view their roster (http://www.centurionsgridiron.com/Seniors.html) they have some pretty mean looking dudes playing for them this season but my stand out players from that rogues gallery would have to be No.33 Richard "Kramer" King, (to quote Seinfeld "It's hideous but I can't look away") and No.35 Austin "Tex" Harris who can apparently play 2011 positions (I like his profile picture too, it says yeah I'm a nice guy, vulnerable but turn your back and I'm slipping you a roofy").
Gladiators: The Gladiators are going to be one of the teams to watch in Round 1 with the acquisition of Steve "Big Ben" Finlay and Warren "Berzirkler" Zirkler from the Tornadoes and a number of other new recruits who word on the grapevine are showing massive potential for the season. To cap it all off a number of their members had the opportunity to represent Australia at the World Cup as both players and as a coach and this experience is sure to benefit them this season.
Unfortunately the Berzirkler will be missing the first few games after he injured his ankle stomping a group of Mexican cheerleaders who got in his way during the Mexico game. Thankfully John "Bunk" Tolsher, the man beaver is fighting fit and looking to leap from play to play face first to get the win for the Glads.
Game 2 - Firebirds vs Tornadoes (Charity Shield)
The Charity Shield games are always entertaining to watch and with the Tornadoes having won the shield the last two seasons running I'm expecting them to fight tooth and nail to make it 3 from 3. Opposing them are the Firebirds, a team that just urinates success and enjoys its sterile taste.
Firebirds: Led by the Wayne Bennett of the ACTG world, Shawn Willis, the Firebirds have won every grand final since 2005 with the exception of the 2009 finals which saw the Gladiators take the title. The secret to this coaching genius' success? A love of Depeche Mode and all things Kylie, at least that's the impression I get from his Facebook profile (accept my friend request dammit).
Each season the Firebirds seem to be made up of mostly new players yet each season their hard work in the pre-season sees them come out well drilled, aggressive and terrified of anyone shorter than 5ft.
Tornadoes: This season has seen a number of departures from the club but with head coach Brad "JB" Aberdeen and new defensive coach Josh "Big Sexy" Catanzariti at the helm, I'm not underestimating what the Nadoes have to bring to the field this season.
With veteran players like Cody, Cam and the man of few words Benn "Introvert" Hunter ready to level anyone in their path their defence still looks formidable. Stepping into the starting QB position for them this season will be Michael "Magic" Dawson.
Game 3 - Astros vs Wildcats
The final game of round 1 will see the Astros under new QB Paris will take on the red headed stepchild of the 2010 season, the Wildcats.
Astros: The off season saw the Astros make a move to the ANU for some new blood and to perve on the uni girls while they trained. The Astros has moments of brilliance last season and if they have trained hard during the pre-season they may well be a dark horse in 2011.
Paris at QB, I don't know why but this position shift intrigues me as I always assumed that Paris' biceps would get in the way when he threw the ball but it may well just be QB sneaks all day long so I will be watching this game with great interest to see what he brings to the table.
Wildcats: I love the Wildcats, how can you dislike a team that gives you so much material in a season. 2010 from them was like having all my wishes come true at once. But you can never write a team off at the start of the season, you give them one game and then do that.
It's amazing what having a horror season can do for some teams, sometimes this is just what a club needs to put that fire under them to step up and play their best in the following season and this could well be what we will see from the Wildcats. It could also teach them nothing which is not so good.
I can't wait for Round 1 to commence and here's hoping we get some decent numbers out to watch the game this weekend.
Cheers
Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 18/08/2011 7:10:24 PM
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biological (17/08/2011)
any rookies to look out for this year?Good question biological but one I cannot answer unfortunately. I have heard rumblings from some people about certain rookies being players to watch but having not seen them in action on the training field myself I'm not going to comment until round 1 has come and gone. Each season there are rookies that shine on the field so I'm sure your question will be answered hopefully by this Saturday. Cheers Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 21/08/2011 6:10:24 AM
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Round 1 Review
Well Round 1 has come and gone and today had everything you could ask for and even some things you probably wouldn't ask for as well.
Game 1 - Gladiators 24 vs Centurions 0
The Gladiators put the Centurions to the sword in what started off as a very ugly looking first quarter but turned into the Gladiators first ever shut out win. The only thing preventing them making it a 40 or 50 point scoreline were some of the more difficult aspects of football like catching the ball when it hits your hands or not fumbling it away once you have it. QB Steve "Big Ben" Finlay led an aggressive offence in a number of spectacular drives that included a monster TD pass on one and another that saw them move the ball 99 yards to get the td in a series of great plays.
At tale of two drives - The opening drives of both teams offensive units was well to put it mildly pretty sub-par. The difference between them was that the Gladiators switched on in their second series on offence and the Centurions never really did. In a game that had few positives for the Centurions I found one, Pete's purple crocks while ugly as sh!t have a very slimming effect on him and really take the attention off his melon .
Jayson "The Bully" Kirk - Can someone please explain to him that people beat the red-headed stepchild, the red-headed stepchild is not meant to beat them. After watching him deliver a patented Dom Radman special in his first big hit of the game he decided to teach one lucky Centurion how to fly in his second big one and fly they did. Why are the rangas always so angry.
Stuart "Butterfingers" Duncan - He's made the break, he's beat one, beat two, beat three, what a run, what a player, he's got one player to beat, he's fumbled the ball straight to his opponent.....sh!t.
Gladiators D - The Gladiators D was on fire all game shutting down everything that the Centurions threw at them. So determined to prevent anything going wrong, they even refused to intercept the ball, instead pretending to drop the easiest of catches just in case a determined Centurion managed to strip the ball from them after they caught the ball.
Pre-Game Chant - Any chant is better than Boom, Boom, Boom as the Gladiators proved before the game.
Game 2 - Firebirds 14 vs Tornadoes 0
The Firebirds won the Charity Shield in the second game of the round with a shutout win over the Tornadoes. The Firebirds were playing their usual clinical brand of football and once again it paid dividends for the well drilled squad.
Six Million Dollar Milne - Jeremy Milne once again proved what a pain in the a$$ he can be running up and down the field all day. Throw some stiff arms in for good measure and you can see why defenders take particular pleasure in lighting him up when they manage to catch him.
Smothering Defence - The Firebirds D had a blinder today shutting down almost anything the Tornadoes threw at them with gang tackles all over the park. The Tornadoes put in a solid effort preventing the Firebirds from extending their lead with Cody "Enforcer" Field a standout in the Tornadoes D. Rumour has it the Nadoes Defensive Coach donned the white makeup the night before the game from nerves and started getting cutty with it going old school emo. I'd tell you to keep your chin up Josh and smile but just like Pimp's don't cry, Emo's don't smile. For a first game as defensive coach you did well.
Catch the f##king ball!!!! - The ball gets thrown to a receiver running flat out with two defenders covering him and catches it like it's no big deal. The receiver is running in open field with time to see the ball coming and catching it will narrow the scoreline and it gets dropped. Gridiron can be a cruel, cruel b!tch sometimes.
"You want to win put DeeJay in" - While Dawson had a good run at QB in his first game as starting QB a special mention needs to go in for secondary QB DeeJay Mitchell who put together a monster drive for the Tornadoes late in the 4th quarter.
Game 3 - Wildcats 20 vs Astros 6
The Wildcats have won their first ever ACTG game in a 20-6 victory over the Astros. The Astros who even if they win the next thirty ACTG finals will forever be remembered as the first team to be beaten by the Wildcats and will live in shame of this dark day, tasting nothing but bitter tears and ashes for the remainder of their lives.....sorry got carried away there.
Tony "TC" Connor - Well I finally figured out what the TC stands for, Two Chins, homie got fat . Seriously though unfortunately today wasn't the best for TC.. sorry I mean Two Chins, where once he was the feared enforcer of the Astros, today I saw Smiley running downfield for a 99yd touchdown while Tony struggled to catch him. Okay while this may or may not actually have happened I want you to close your eyes and visualise it, pretty funny right . Cheer up TC, just slinging sh!t, I'm sure you'll be back to your brutal best next week. I expect a high standard of aggression from you and when I don't see that I get sad.
O-Line - Poor Paris was getting smashed today and while it would be easy to just say it's his fault no judgement can be passed on Paris until his O-Line steps up and blocks for him. The first half saw the Wildcats D playing the role of the customer and the Astros O-Line the turnstile. If they don't fix this now it's going to be a long season for Paris at QB.
Wildcats Material- Well there goes the Wildcats as being my biggest source of comedy material, they stepped up today and with their new QB leading them (name please, anyone, anyone) they showed they know how to play some football and they almost made it 3 from 3 for shutout wins for the day so congrats Wildcats, may the sweet taste of victory never get old for you.
Wildcats D - The Wildcats D were all over the ball carrier today with gang tackles and this pressure led to a number of intercepts for them. My biggest problem is I don't know the names of any of these guys so if the Wildcats D coach is reading this please feel free to come on and give a nod to any of your players you felt were standouts.
Comedy Material - Actually the Wildcats were still a source of comedy material - Watching Smiley get puffed after having to sprint more than 15 yards was pretty funny. When that guy gets puffed his cheeks almost go the same ugly red as their uniforms . Cardio, the enemy of fat people everywhere.
It's still early days to tell which teams will be making it to the finals but one thing is for sure, Thank God Football Season is here!!!!
Cheers
Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 22/08/2011 9:12:05 PM
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Butthead73 (22/08/2011)
Chimp thanks for the write up and I am sorry to say but I am going to retire the purple crocs. They have lost their mojo!! With reference to our game I have to say I am very happy with the way our 20 rookies played and I have no doubts they will provide endless entertainment for you throughout the season. Cheers Peter Pete, how dare you retire your purple crocs!!!! I demand that to compensate you turn up to games wearing any of the following 3 items. 1. Purple Toga 2. A Kilt 3. Some other colour crocs. In regards to your 20 rookies, I'm sure they'll do fine this season and credit to them for not giving up during the game. Cheers Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 24/08/2011 9:35:50 PM
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Round 2 Preview
This weekend will see some interesting matchups that will hopefully help shed some more light on who are the teams to watch this season. so without further delay, on with the previews:
Game 1 - 10:00am Astros (0-1) vs Firebirds (1-0)
The first game of the round sees the Astros square off against the Charity Shield winning Firebirds. Both teams will be wanting a win from this game for vastly different reasons. The Firebirds will be looking to continue their winning ways and improve on what apart from the 2nd quarter was a pretty lacklustre attack while the Astros will be wanting to erase what was for the most part an atrocious start to the season with a win over the reigning champions.
Astros
Phil "Drunken Master" Fooks - Trained in the ways of Drunken Fighting in the misty mountains of the Kan Tong province of China, Fooks has proven that intoxication is not a handicap for everyone. The more hungover this guy is from the previous night the better he seems to play. Sure some say it's not even running, he's just stumbling forward about to fall over and when he gets hit he uses his kung fu training to propel himself forward using his opponents force. Whatever it is, it works for this guy and I must stress only this guy. I decided to try his technique out myself the other day against some of the bigger chimps in my enclosure. After drinking 15 bourbons and screaming at the other chimps to bring it on I woke up a bloodied beaten mess that had pooped itself. I better leave drunken style to the professionals..... then again it was a hell of a night.
Jameson "Free Agent" Gibbs - Last week Jameson only got one successful pass thrown to him and he caught it for a TD. It's a crime that Jameson's abilities as a receiver are going to waste and unless the Astro o-line can step up and start giving Paris time to pass I wouldn't be surprised if Jameson receives an offer to good to refuse from another club. Word on the street is that during the post game handshakes Luds offered Jameson a new car, being the face of the new "Got Wood" campaign for Gungahlin Lumber Yard and a captaincy if he comes across to the Wildcats.
Astros O-Line - Not since that documentary I think I watched about a year ago showing some little Japanese sumo kid getting monstered by a full grown sumo wrestler have I seen an o-line get dominated as a unit like that. The O-line is one of the most underappreciated aspects of gridiron for people that don't understand the game but for anyone who plays the game you know that without a solid o-line you don't have an offence. Expecting big things from the Astro's O-line this week as I'm sure they will want to prove they were just having an off week on the field.
Firebirds
Beau "Who the F##k cares about Milne" Kennett - I spoke to Beau after the game and got to talking to him about yet another outstanding performance from Milne. Well to say Beau's response was surprising would be like saying coming home to find 4 hot cheerleaders sitting in my bed with nothing but a smile and cans of whipped cream in their hands would be a pleasant surprise and in all honesty something that will never happen unless I win the Lotto and my wife doesn't kill me afterwards. "Milne thinks he's the best thing since sliced bread". "That idiot comes to training on a gold plated golf buggy powered by his ego and does three stretches, has a granny nap and then has one of the rookies bring him a cup of tea with a slice of lemon on the side, what a jacka$$". "I'm the one to watch this season, have you seen my stats, 6 carries for 74 yards, that's 12.3 yds average per carry, what's Milnes average... 7.5yds, that's not even a first down". Angry, angry young man.
Matthew "The Hated" Marshall - It's only a matter of time before this twisted little puppy decides the Firebirds are having too much of a good thing and decides to block one of his own players unconscious or stabs a referee just to get a touchdown that the Firebirds score called back. A wildcard that you never know when he will decide to go off, rookie Firebird players, you've been warned.
Monroe Harrison-Brown - I really don't care for this person's name so I decided to do some research and lo and behold his Facebook profile is not private so everyone go onto Facebook and behold all that is Monroe Harrison-Brown. I've never seen anyone so excited about marshmallows on a stick (profile photo pic). To quote the brilliant mind of Monroe "I think I just sat on my nut....but im too drunk to know" 23 July at 12:20am or this gem, "The moment when your mum and dad come home drunk and dad decides to come into my room just to fart....Thanks" 19 June at 1:07am, like I said, don't like your name but your dad's pretty funny .
Game 2 - 12:45pm Centurions (0-1) vs Tornadoes (0-1)
The second game sees to old rivals going head to head for the first time this season and with both teams looking for their first win of the season I'm expecting a big one from both of them.
Centurions
Grant "Workhorse" Clark - Grant was a standout for the Centurions last week with 6 tackles including 2 for a loss plus two assists. If the Centurions want the win this week he will need to step up again for the Purple People Eaters. Also stepping up to carry the ball when required, Grant is leading by example for the Centurions.
Crocgate - The purple crocs have been retired by Pete permanently, or have they? Sources at customs have told me that Pete received an order of 10 purple crocs just this week, so what should we expect from the big man this week.
QB Curse - Well we have one game down and the Centurions still have their starting QB which for me is a great sign considering the horror run at QB they had last season. Fingers crossed this curse has been broken as when Phil had his chances to shine at QB he did a good job and I'm interested to see how he handles himself this week. But....If a satellite crashes onto Phil as he's about to pass for a game winning TD don't blame me, I'm just the messenger.
Tornadoes
Will "Tabs" Tabrett - While most people were looking at Cody Field's great effort of 8 tackles, 1 assist with 1 tackle for a loss you might have missed Will Tabrett's effort of 7 tackles. Will was a standout for the Tornadoes D but considering their training methods this season it's no surprise he stepped up and put in the effort that he did. Defensive coach Josh "Big Sexy" Catanzariti has been mixing things up at training having the Tornadoes players try tackling one of the numerous southside whiteboy gangstas you see walking around the Hyperdome on a Friday night. He lures them to training with promises of tickets to the Ice Cube concert that's coming up and then restrains them and covers them in grease. After letting them go he turns loose the defence on them and while it's hard to get a grip on the little bugger once your able to level the Eminem wannabe it's apparently one of the best feelings in the world.
Two hands on the ball - After seeing some critical catches get dropped last week, coach JB decided desperate measures were in order. He organised for the mothers of all the receivers to come to training to watch their sons train and then had the receivers go through some passing drills. Every time they dropped the ball JB personally delivered a kidney shot to their mother for the first drop, knee to the stomach for the second and shot to the face for a third. While some would call it extreme, I call it doing what it takes to win.
Which QB will be starting - This is the first season I've seen the Tornadoes fielding two QB's during a game and I personally think this is a good thing. Dawson while not having the best opening game had most of his passes that were incomplete occur from drops and DJ put together a cracker of a drive late in the game. Regardless of who starts it's good to see players step up at QB for the Tornadoes and a little healthy competition can only improve both QB's.
Game 3 - 3:30pm Gladiators (1-0) vs Wildcats (1-0)
Gladiators
Defence - The Gladiators defence stepped up as a unit all game against the Centurions and this effort included 9 tackles for a total of 24yds loss and 1 intercept (could have been 3 or 4 intercepts but Gladiators players like Bunk wisely chose to batdown the passes). Standouts for the Glads D included John Radman who had 6 tackles of which 5 were for a loss as well as Tino, Larry and Bunk. If they can bring this defence to their game against the Wildcat it will be interesting to see how the Wildcats respond.
Receiver Corp - Big Ben is spoiled for choice this season with his receivers putting together a combined effort of 11 completions for 188 yards including 2 touchdowns. This averaged out at 17.1 yards a reception and was spread out over six players, with stats like this after one game you can see the pre-season training has paid off for Big Ben and his receivers.
Big Hits - The hits put on by players like Kirk and Tino (to name a few) were crackers in round 1. Considering I saw the player Kirk taught how to fly walking around in full Centurion kit on Thursday asking customers in the Hyperdome "Did we win?" puts that monster hit as the biggest hit of the season so far. With efforts like that in Round 1 I'm really looking forward to seeing what happens in Round 2.
Wildcats
Joseph "The Hammer" Taula - I know I know, his nickname back home is Torpedo Joe or something along those lines but there are two things wrong with that nickname. 1. Torpedoes need to be underwater to work and 2. Gridiron is not played underwater. So during his stint in the ACTG I dub him "The Hammer", There is no logic to this nickname, I just thought of it a second ago but it has a ring to it and suits the effect he has had on the Wildcats first game against the Astros and with stats including passing yards of a 198yds, 37yds rushing and 2 tackles well he has certainly made an impact in his first game in the ACTG.
Defence - The Wildcats D were all over Paris last week smothering him and shutting down the Astros offence for the majority of the game. If they can accomplish this again this weekend it will definitely make for a very interesting game as which ever team figures out their opponents defence first I believe will win the game.
Uniforms - The only other thing the Wildcats need to change now that they have shaken off their losing streak is to purchase new uniforms for next season or at least make sure that the sweatshop they have their uniforms made at uses the same colour dye from now. Looking at them play last week had me worried I was losing my eyesight as it seemed like every player had a different shade of red on during the game. It's bad enough looking at 30 people wearing the same ugly uniform but 30 people wearing different shades of ugly is even worse.
Cheers
Chimp
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By Hail to the Chimp - 27/08/2011 12:42:38 AM
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Lemonaide (26/08/2011)
Long time reader, first time poster. Umm Chimp, I’ve noticed you're being a little softer on the Gladiators this year? Word on the street is that with all the taunts, burns and bazingas you've given the Glads on this here forum for the past two maybe three years their hit man has finally tracked you down and caught up with you. Are the rumours true that you could be doing all your posts tied up, tortured, ankles broken and being forced to type Kathy Bates style form the coconut bungalow? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zzg3UP-x8k&feature=related Type 1 if you are and cannot talk!
1 Nah just pulling your leg Lemonaide. I have actually been poking fun at some Glads players, there was a reference to a certain bunk hopping player who leads with his head made in a previous post and as I mentioned in my round 1 review the first drive of their offence left a lot to be desired. I'm not too sure but I also thought congratulating them on their batting down skills was also poking fun at their dropped intercepts as well as Stuart Duncan's fumble......hmmm...food for thought for next rounds review, I'll have to be more obvious from now on in regards to making fun of people. It's pretty hard to hang too much crap on a team that had a win like they did in round 1 and in previous seasons it's been an even spread across teams that are doing well. Truth be told a successful, error free ACTG season from every team would be the death of me while brilliant for the ACTG. Cheers Chimp
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By Cents#77 - 20/09/2011 12:48:39 AM
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Coach Hollywood (8/09/2011)
Morning all. I usually don't post about issues - but its seams the right people on here can get the message - I'll also be bringing this up at the next league meeting. ACT Coaches - please get you guys to stop throwing their helmets on the sideline - and then usually following this up with the loud "F" Word. Every week we get teams doing this - last game on the Centurions, one player did it three times right in front on the grandstand Hey Hollywood, That Cent was me and I just wanted to apologise to the league, crowd and anyone I may have offended... in the past weeks since that match I have been doing my best to keep my cool... ps. Dom, when you yelled out about me throwing my helmet you got me going even more you bastard! hahaha!
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By Cents#77 - 20/09/2011 12:50:59 AM
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and clearly I don't know how to do a proper quote on this thing...
obviously the first bit is what Hollywood said a couple weeks ago and the second bit is me responding. for all you troll fuckers out there that like grammatical errors and such!
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By Fatz - 8/09/2011 3:01:12 AM
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Im sure I saw this argument last year with spearing 
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By WhoCares - 20/10/2011 9:00:14 AM
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Guys are any of you aware we actually PLAY football on weekends?
Seriously the thread has become a bit of a hen house for those who care a little bit too much about a game Australia ain't quite ready for. If you seriously care that much about the QUALITY of the game get off your asses and go make it better.
My suggestions:- Go do the officiating courses, learn how to ref, ref a couple of games and study online videos, travel interstate to know and learn good and bad calls.
- Go do the coaching courses, learn how to coach, coach a team, lose some games, win some games understand our sport is more than mental more than just physical and more than just a bunch of guys doing stuff.
- Attend Committee meetings of your clubs and the damn league
- Get your ass to the gym, prepare your body, cut blocks haven't ever been a problem if your not a, stupid and b, fast
- Spend some time running the field, Gridiron is about performance and speed go get some.
Now ofcourse everyone is going to come back and say, but I don't, I can't, blah blah blah...... Then shut the hell up and play the damn game as best you can. Hell offer some praise to people who perform well. You all seem to have enough time to whinge on here but not enough time to REALLY make the game better or encourage those who are and do.
I understand as Australians we sling shit that's fine, I find 'Fail Chimp' hilarious at times, but guys stop the whining, concentrate on the great parts of our games and maybe just maybe they'll occur more often and we'll all be able to have a better time out there.
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By Coach Old - 12/09/2011 12:32:01 AM
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Same sort of play happened with the firebirds when they had a reciever crossing the middle and Tino warned him not to by putting his helmet through the back of the recievers spine even though the ball sailed over their heads. This time the refs didnt flag it at all.
Neither of these two safties are looking for the ball...ever.
I'm sorry, are you talking about the same Tino that holds the equal all-time League record for interceptions? The same Tino who got another interception yesterday?
Talking out of your arse, whoever you are.
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By Coach Old - 28/10/2011 3:57:39 AM
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echoes (23/10/2011)
How is the Gladiators player? Any news yet? Hope all is well....
Hey echoes,
Jerry is recovering, thanks for your concern. He's suffered bruising of the spinal column at C2, C3 and C4. All things considered he was very lucky as with the location of his injury the result could have been extremely severe with just the slightest more impact (think Chris Reeve).
As it is he's expected to make a full recovery, and has gone home from hospital with the collar off. It's a great relief and I probably don't have to tell anyone it scared the crap out of most of us as Jerry's a good mate who's always played the game well, clean, and at about twice his actual size.
It was a good, legal tackle and Jerry's injury was just one of those unlucky things that we all risk when we take the football field.
I won't comment on "the incident" other than to say that the Gladiators Club regrets it, that the Judiciary has dealt with the matter, and I have asked my players not to comment on the episode on this or any other public forum.
As for the rest of the game the Firebirds played well, hard, and with a great intensity. I especially congratulate big 65, we had a good hit up in a great competitive spirit all game. I congratulate the birdies on their win and on taking out the top position, and wish them well - but not too well for the rest of the season.
Oldy
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By Coach Old - 7/11/2011 10:08:57 PM
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Congratulations to the Wildcats on their win on Saturday.
The boys played a great game and what an achievement in reaching the Capital Bowl after last year's showing. They remind me of another team from a couple of years back
Cheers to coach Ludz and his crew. Thanks for a brilliant game and good luck for next week.
And we'll see you next year...
Oldy
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By Coach Old - 10/11/2011 11:14:54 PM
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chucky (10/11/2011)
LG/RG - GLD #54, FB #78 GL #61
Wow, thanks chucky, but I think you mean either GL #69 (Paul Alaimo), or GL #66 (George Stosic). Both played Guard on either side this season.
I wore #61 this year and started the season at Center then backed up at RT when Larry took over at C late in the season.
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By #44 - 8/09/2011 9:19:13 PM
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In response to Fin, QLD gridiron has made cut blocking legal this season. Apparently the first season in a long while, but again, the argument here boils down to having to learn how to defeat the cut block. I have played D-Line for several years now, and rarely get successfully cut block, because I was taught the techniques used to defeat it. The reason you can't compare this to spearing/spear tackling, is because there is no way for the player to avoid these moves, whereas with cut blocking, there are several different techniques to do it.
I honestly think cut blocking is a good part of the game, as it allows offensive linemen a chance to take the defensive player out of the play, allows for cut back lanes etc. But also I like to throw it in sometimes against people who I am evenly matched up with, as once you successfully cut block a player, they will normally be hesitant in getting off the line, giving me an added advantage that can last for the rest of the game.
If we were talking about chop blocking, then that would be a completely different story, as I have had that happen to me several times, and it can be extremely dangerous, likewise with below the waist blocking on special teams.
Anyway it's good to hear that the ACT comp is going better than ever, hopefully I will be able to get back sometime and see you guys play.
Josh.
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By beeker - 27/10/2011 1:14:21 AM
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Now this is a sad day chimp
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By beeker - 6/11/2011 8:14:03 AM
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Hey oops you are a duck head
Why have you spoiled for everyone now. You must be from the Fire bird Camp.
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By beeker - 7/11/2011 9:18:08 AM
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Congratulations to the Wildcats on their win yesterday and their first ever grand final appearance.
Unfortunately if the same refereeing standard is applied the Wildcats will meet the same fate as the Gladiators did with a penalty count that was so one sided. I would love to see Crispins Stats on this game, especially the penalty count and the lack of player safety on late hits after the whistle was blown. I hope the league will actually do something about it for next weeks game but from what I have watch this season this is not going to happen under this current administration. |
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By beeker - 7/11/2011 10:09:03 AM
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cheers
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By beeker - 7/11/2011 9:08:36 PM
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I hope you are correct on both topics as you will be plaing against the cheap shot kings this weekend. Any how I want to see the Wildcats smash then and take the prize.
Good luck
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By beeker - 8/11/2011 4:35:10 AM
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please and make sure its 2ply
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By Jeremy26 - 18/09/2011 9:53:03 PM
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Just thought I would explain a bit about the after game punishments for the Firebirds. I totally agree that this looked bad and just wanted to say on behalf of the firebirds boys that we thought it was a bloody tough game and the Cents boys really made us work hard for the win.
The punishment at the end wasn't a reflection on the coaches not being satisfied with the margin of the win or anything like that. It was actually more about internal team stuff like talking back to coaches on the sideline, not getting correct personnel out on the field, and general bone-head screw ups.
totally agree that this should have been dealt with in a better manner but just wanted to let the centurions boys know that as players we thought you guys put up a cracker fight and it was a great game.
Cheers,
Jeremy
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By Jeremy26 - 20/09/2011 12:20:24 AM
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Haha cheers Pete will keep that in mind for next time!
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By Jeremy26 - 8/11/2011 11:20:44 PM
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Sonicboom, if you think you can do a better job then get off the forum, go do the level 1 officiating course and get out there. At the moment we have referees who are doing their best in a sport where officiating is very very difficult (not to mention the time commitment) and the league could always use more numbers.
I will say however that I thought their performance in the semifinal was spot on - penalty's went both ways and if you don't want to get penalised then be diciplined. Simple.
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By Coach Hollywood - 5/08/2011 12:20:20 AM
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Ok. I'm back - now that I remember how to log on
Weekends games - In my opinion, nobody won, scores don't count - nobody beat anybody.... why cause as a ref for two of these games the emphasis was on getting some pre season game time and getting the rookies some experience.
We didn't mark off penalties, teams went for 10 plays each then swapped etc etc and other stuff. What I though was good was some of the new talent and guys who have been rallying their team. some new coaches and new players should be a good year for the league.
It was great to see the local familiar faces and the outlaws boys again.
Disapointed I couldnt get down to the astros seashawks game - but wow 3 games of footy on the same day.
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By Coach Hollywood - 5/08/2011 12:39:22 AM
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FYI - Just posting it up for anyone who wants to come along to talk war stories or drink
NSWGFL champions 1994 Canberra Sabretooths and the 1996 NSWGFL champions ACT Astros reunion.
Hell - anyone that played on those team between 1991 and 1994.
The date is set for the 5th Of Aug 7:30pm at The Durham arms pub in Green Square Kingston.
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By Coach Hollywood - 8/08/2011 11:25:10 PM
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First up Jake - great to hear from you ! I remember when you stayed with Coach Crispin and Myself in 1993 as part of the down under bowl from Idaho. That time I took you out to Fyshwick and .....well thats another story.
For me, ACTGL 2011= Rookies. It's great to see. From the teams I've talked with they have so many rookies or Juniors coming up this year into seniors this year ....awesome...good job to keep em playing.
I tell ya what though - It will be great to see which Coach has read the 2011 rules and uses them to their advantage. There are some goodies.
Less that 2 weeks to go - Big Kev = I'm Excited. (old school"ers know what I mean)
One Love. Coach Hollywood (the guy who apparently touches his "Junk" a lot on Eurosport TV)
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By Coach Hollywood - 11/08/2011 8:09:12 PM
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WEEK 1 - ACTGL
Date 20/8/11
Time Home Away Duty
10:00am Gladiators Centurions Astros
12:45pm Firebirds Tornadoes Gladiators
3:30pm Astros Wildcats Firebirds
Temp: -1 to 14. 80% chance of showers.
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By Coach Hollywood - 15/11/2011 7:00:05 PM
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Tell ya what might be easier is have a Practice/try out roster or 45 man roster - like a game situation - rather than one 22 man roster.Pick the next TEAM to take into a tryout OR game. |
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By Coach Hollywood - 30/12/2011 11:20:58 PM
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The Capital Spears - set up by Tim Mac, Sean G (possibly Owen also)I did hear that they are to be a strictly indigenous/torres strait Islanders team which is great. Though I wonder if they will be able to get the numbers to sustain a full squad as a lot of those guys play other codes of football, which we all know conflict with the gridiron season.
I like to see that - there aren't that many of us that play - I personally would say it's more of a pacific islander type wish..Cause I can count how many of us play on two hands....and please, there was a team back in Darwin set up back in the day called the Dark Angles...ask me or Rob Bourke about that team privately.
That statement is purely for funding or set up approval ...or something like that
I have not been approached in anyway, neither have a few other mob I know...just saying.
BUT - Good luck and I wish anyone the best if they want to get a team up and have a solid long term plan to get people (any, male, female)being part in this great sport...
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By Coach Hollywood - 29/10/2011 7:03:54 AM
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| 29/10/11 | 10:00am | Firebirds | Astros | Centurions | 0 | | 12:45pm | Wildcats | Gladiators | Astros | 0 | | 3:30pm | Tornadoes | Centurions | Gladiators |
Saturday 29 October- Summary
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- Chance of any rain: 90%
 - Rainfall amount: 6 to 15 mm
Canberra areaCloudy. Scattered showers and isolated thunderstorms. Winds west to northwesterly averaging up to 30 km/h. Fire Danger - Low-Moderate UV Alert from 9:10 am to 4:30 pm, UV Index predicted to reach 10 [Very High] |
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By Coach Hollywood - 30/10/2011 6:22:47 AM
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Final round in ACT GridironFinal score in game 1 uni 42 def Astros 0At halftime in the second game gladiators lead 32 wildcats 0: due to injuries wildcats called the matchIn a very tight match of the final round tornadoes just nudged out the centurions 12-6.
On a personal note and board issue - bigs ups to Coach Ryan for having a chat with me and clearing an issue up.
and thank goodness the rain stayed away
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By Coach Hollywood - 4/11/2011 9:47:52 AM
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| Semi Final | | 5/11/11 | 5:00pm | 2nd | 3rd | 5th & 6th |
Saturday 5 November- Summary
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- Early fog then mostly sunny.
Canberra areaAreas of morning fog. Mostly sunny afternoon. Winds northwesterly averaging up to 20 km/h.
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By Coach Hollywood - 6/11/2011 6:23:56 PM
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Anyway - ACTG Semi final has seen the Wildcats beat the Gladiators in a tough match 20-18Its the Wildcats vs the firebirds next week in the ACTG Capital Bowl No .... Geldy is not the Chimp .... I'm the Chimp.
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By Coach Hollywood - 11/11/2011 5:37:48 PM
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Its good with all this chat about an "all star team" ....but its on paper - what I want to see is all of these selected at the state team for the nationals... We have had the players for some years - but not everyone can make it for various reasons
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By Coach Hollywood - 14/11/2011 2:32:04 AM
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Well the season is over - Capital Bowl won - Parties had - this means I now have to do some house stuff for the next few months, bugger.
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By Coach Hollywood - 14/10/2011 4:59:28 PM
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Spot on Flemdog.
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By Coach Hollywood - 16/10/2011 5:57:26 PM
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Scores from week 8 ACTGCenturions notched up their first win over the Astros - 18-0 Uni Firebirds dodged several bullets to win what Coach Nathan called a very ugly game over the Wildcats - 13-7 and The Gladiators will again probably amass over 100 yards in penalties but win a tough, physical game over the Tugg Tornadoes 36-6.
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By Coach Hollywood - 20/10/2011 12:25:03 AM
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Lineman and Back ARTICLE 4. a. Lineman. 1. A lineman is any Team A player legally on his scrimmage line (Rule 2-21-2). 2. A Team A player is on his scrimmage line when he faces his opponent’s goal line with the line of his shoulders approximately parallel thereto and either (a) he is the snapper (Rule 2-27-8) or (b) his head breaks the plane of the line drawn through the waistline of the snapper.
SECTION 2. Unsportsmanlike Conduct Fouls
Unsportsmanlike Acts
ARTICLE 1. There shall be no unsportsmanlike conduct or any act that
interferes with orderly game administration on the part of players, substitutes,
coaches, authorized attendants or any other persons subject to the rules, before the game, during the game or between periods. Infractions for these acts by players are administered as either live-ball or dead-ball fouls depending on when they occur.
a. Specifically prohibited acts and conduct include:
(e) An unopposed ball carrier obviously altering stride as he approaches the opponent’s goal line or diving into the end zone.
SECTION 15. Hurdling ARTICLE 1. a. Hurdling is an attempt by a player to jump with one or both feet or knees foremost over an opponent who is still on his feet (Rule 9-1-13). b. “On his feet’’ means that no part of the opponent’s body other than one or both feet is in contact with the ground. Hurdling ARTICLE 13. There shall be no hurdling (Exception: The ball carrier may hurdle an opponent).
From the desk of Hollywood - couple of things for the record from me - Stu's TD call back - from my view, it was a call that should NOT have been made, if going by the rules, as he was clearly NOT unopposed...BUT the ref on the day made the call and that ref was in the middle of the field and had a better view. I did say, I'll back the ref if that's what he saw... but the ref's gotta be 100%, I thought it would only be called if there was 100% no doubt any ball carrier was unopposed...
With regards to the lineman breaking the centres body - his head only has to break the plane of the line drawn through the waistline of the snapper....not his shoulders....so, if the ref that / any day, said shoulders, then I consider that or any ref to be wrong...and would take this up with them at my earliest availiablity.
I firmly believe that no ref in this league is biased or shows favouratism to any team. We only have Three refs that are not affiliated with a team - only one white cap.
and from a coaching point of view - I've gotta get my super back to stop diving anyway
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By Coach Hollywood - 21/10/2011 8:25:00 AM
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Yes thats great sun smart advice and precaution for you Pete but when you ref'd - the crowd in the stands couldn't see 10 yards either side of the line of scrimmage
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By Coach Hollywood - 22/10/2011 2:46:48 AM
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Yes wally check the stands - the warm weather is bringing the families and partners out ...and if not fo rthe "crowds" benefit , then for Johnny "stats man" Crispins benefit
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By Coach Hollywood - 28/10/2011 6:23:12 AM
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As for the Dad issue aka Bucs - well Bucs needs to go and get his old eye's checked - those playing days - the older I get the better I was - have really knocked him around. If your the guy who's going to spin so much crap - well may be it's great that you go and never come back. I can't wait till the season is over and our media ban is over - I soooo look forward to correcting quite a few wrongs from a few people...
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By Coach Hollywood - 24/09/2011 6:31:30 AM
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I agree - the UC v TT should be a cracker !!!
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By Coach Hollywood - 25/09/2011 7:28:01 AM
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ACT GRIDIRON SCORES - week 6
Wildcats 20-8 Astros
36-0 Gladiators over the Centurions. - Centurions called the game early i hear ?
Uni Canb 30-6 Tornadoes
| 24/9/11 | 10:00am | Wildcats | Astros | Tornadoes | 0 | | 12:45pm | Centurions | Gladiators | Wildcats | 0 | | 3:30pm | Tornadoes | Firebirds | Centurions | 0 | | 1/10/11 | Labour Day Long Weekend - No Games | | 8/10/11 | 10:00am | Tornadoes | Wildcats | Gladiators | 0 | | 12:45pm | Firebirds | Centurions | Wildcats | 0 | | 3:30pm | Astros | Gladiators | Centurions | 0 |
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By Coach Hollywood - 26/09/2011 10:35:38 PM
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Bullrush (26/09/2011)
[quote]Hail to the Chimp (25/09/2011)
Round 6 Review
Oh....and I thought the 'mercy rule' couldn't be enforced unless both coaches agreed to it?
Negative ghost rider - Only one has to
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By Coach Hollywood - 4/10/2011 5:52:33 AM
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| 8/10/11 | 10:00am | Tornadoes | Wildcats | Gladiators |
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Saturday 8 October- Summary
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By Coach Hollywood - 11/10/2011 2:45:27 AM
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Stop it - qoute of he year - St Benedict's Year 6 school for the blind hahahaha.
Coach Pete knew what he was in for this year - i hope he keeps the guys he's got so he can build for the future - keep at it guysA couple of passes ad TD's looked like Cents safety was out of position - Frosty would play his zone and release to the safety , who didn't role over in time.
Spot on Chimp for us - we have some serious red zone practice to do - I did ease up on the Astros with my play calling, to help them out with them being low on Dline, which I shouldn't have cause it was clearly reflected in the O performance - not a mistake i'll make again for anyone.
Harneet "The Sack" Dhindsa hit was NFL quality - as a ref I saw the hit - just text book, very nice work.
Coach Carlos (Astros 03) used to say 3 things happen when you pass, 2 of them are bad.....this was the case for the Tornadoes. I think it was def a case of mistakes winning a match for the other team who capitalised on them.
All this rain has made the ground very sweet - a top place to play footy.
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By Coach Hollywood - 14/10/2011 6:52:11 AM
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| 15/10/11 | 10:00am | Astros | Centurions | Tornadoes | 0 | | 12:45pm | Wildcats | Firebirds | Centurions | 0 | | 3:30pm | Gladiators | Tornadoes | Firebirds | 0 |
Saturday 15 October- Summary
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- Max 24
- Shower or two clearing.
Canberra areaPartly cloudy. Isolated showers until afternoon. The chance of thunderstorms in the late morning and afternoon. Winds north to northwesterly averaging up to 25 km/h tending west to northwesterly 20 to 35 km/h around midday. |
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By Coach Hollywood - 9/09/2011 5:29:19 AM
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Saturday 10 September- Summary
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- Max 13
- Morning shower or two.
Canberra areaCloudy. Isolated showers late in the morning. Winds west to southwesterly averaging up to 35 km/h tending south to southwesterly around midday.
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By Coach Hollywood - 11/09/2011 6:54:31 AM
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Round 4 ACTG Results.Final score in first game week 4 - wildcats 32 - Centurions 8.Final score - game 2 - tuggeranong 32 d Astros 0Final game of week 4 - gladiators 16 def Uni firebirds 14.
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By Coach Hollywood - 12/09/2011 4:33:51 AM
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Ok. My 2 cents. - I'm going to respond to a few quotes here..
Lemonaide - don't know who you are so I have no idea if your new to the sport or experienced and male or female. Would like to know, so I could structure my answers around you knowing what I'm talking about or having to speak to someone new.
Tino equalled the league record of 6 intercepts in 2009.Now that we have more safeties that are not looking for the ball and are just going for the big hit *cough* Tino and Tony *cough* and a lot more of the recievers getting injuried, when is a reciever a 'defenceless player'? I saw an example of this yesterday when a reciever from the Tornadoes get mangled by TC after the ball had flown over his head and he stopped. a second later Tony decided to teach him a lesson for stopping. The refs threw the flags but after a lengthy discussion waived it off.
I'd like to see the tape of it - if it's as clear as you say - then yes - something should be down about it ie flag and a refs discussion with that player and teams coach.
Same sort of play happened with the firebirds when they had a reciever crossing the middle and Tino warned him not to by putting his helmet through the back of the recievers spine even though the ball sailed over their heads. This time the refs didnt flag it at all.
Ok - so the receiver wasn't watching the the coverage ? was he just looking at the QB ? then thats poor coaching and poor play by the receiver.
Neither of these two safties are looking for the ball...ever. Both recievers have eyes for the ball and both safties only had eyes for the hit. So when is a player defenceless?
Couple of things - Tony is a former Australian Cornerback (2003) and Tino is a current Australian Safety - would they have not gotten better coaching /practice and know how to use it. Tino hugely improved this year - his pre season work ethic was awesome - this skills in reading a receiver/O play and now his backpedal and break on the ball is second to none. (and it should be).
If you want stop legal hits on legal plays to protect your players - there is three simple things to do a: Get you QB to not telegraph who they are throwing the ball to - they make it to easy (learn to look off or pump fake / make better reads) and 2: get the qb's to get the ball quicker to the receivers. 3: Teach your receivers to run routes with vision meaning get through traffic then look quick for the ball - don't watch the ball - you miss the saftey when you you watch the QB the whole way.
With regards to Tino "leading with the helmet" I can totally see your point - as it looks like it from the stands - Tino was taught well at the World Cup campaign - if you look closely he makes full contact with his shoulder and his head to the side. He also knows to get low and explode upwards. Tino has improved greatly over the last two seasons as an allround player
Great catch by the Uni Receiver on the Tino hit - very nice job at holding onto the ball.
The fact is that a player is looking at the ball (similar to a kick returner) should have SOME protection when the ball goes over his head. Receivers should know that across the middle is dangerous area to play in. I'm just asking that surely some of these receivers should be protected downfield when they are no longer in the play because the ball has gone sailing over their head.I Totally agree with you on this.
With regards of going for the ball or the hit - depends on the situation - but me as an offensive guy - go for the legal hit - why - easy, a: you startle him b: he's more nervous about running his routes c: puts doubt in there mind and will drop more passes thrown to him - all of these factors will lead to several good things for the D ie Ten players instead of 11. Creating more opportunities for turnovers when the ball goes his way - do you want 1 intercept or 3 off the player who is scared to catch the ball. |
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By Coach Hollywood - 12/09/2011 5:06:03 PM
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Quote of the season "Kenny G hairstyle has never died"
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By Coach Hollywood - 14/09/2011 6:34:27 PM
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| 17/9/11 | 10:00am | Wildcats | Tornadoes | Firebirds |
| | 12:45pm | Gladiators | Astros | Tornadoes |
| | 3:30pm | Centurions | Firebirds | Astros |
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Saturday 17 September- Summary
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- Sunny.
Canberra areaSunny. Winds west to northwesterly averaging up to 30 km/h.
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By Coach Hollywood - 18/09/2011 5:15:42 AM
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Scores from this weeks ACTG games:
Uni Firebirds 42 def Centurions 0
Tugg Tornadoes 7 def Wildcats 0
Gladiators 24 def Astros 0 - Note: Astros forfeited at half time |
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By Coach Hollywood - 5/09/2011 7:23:58 PM
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2011 Seniors - Round 3 results04 Sep 2011 The University of Firebirds fought back from a 13-point second half deficit to defeat the Gungahlin Wildcats 28-26 in the third round of the ACT Gridiron season, ensuring they remain undefeated. Gungahlin quarterback Joseph Taula torched the Firebirds defence for 222 yards passing and four touchdowns, the final one a 37-yard strike to Julian Thirkill with 41 seconds remaining that gave the Wildcats a chance to tie the game with a two-point conversion. On the two-point attempt, Taula was flushed to his right and a desperation pass for running back Sean Gautusa fell incomplete. Firebirds running back Jeremy Milne accounted for three of his side’s four touchdowns, carrying the ball 24 times for 227 yards and two touchdowns and catching two passes for 19 yards another score. Thirkill caught three passes for 82 yards and two touchdowns, and also added a two-point conversion in the second quarter. In the early game, Gladiators receiver Junior Lasaele accounted for four touchdowns as the Woden Valley side remained unbeaten with a 37-15 victory over the Tuggeranong Tornadoes. Lasaele caught seven passes for 125 yards and three touchdowns and returned a third quarter kickoff 87 yards for another touchdown. Gladiators running back Stuart Duncan gained 77 yards and a touchdown on 12 carries, while contributing two two-point conversions for a personal haul of 10 points. Tuggeranong quarterback Michael Dawson played an efficient game, completing 18 of 24 passes for 167 yards, but the Tornadoes failed to capitalise on two genuine scoring opportunities in the first half as long drives stalled inside the Gladiators’ 15-yard line. In the late game, the Astros recorded their first win in more than 12 months with a 20-0 victory over the Centurions. Astros quarterback Steve Evans rushed for touchdowns in the first and fourth quarters, while running back Phil Fooks ran for one in the third quarter, extending the Astros’ 6-0 halftime lead. Results| | 1st | 2nd | 3rd | 4th | Final | | Gladiators | 8 | 8 | 8 | 13 | 37 | | Tornadoes | 0 | 0 | 7 | 8 | 15 |
1st quarter GL - Junior Lasaele 20-yard pass from Steve Finlay (Stuart Duncan run) 2nd quarter GL – Junior Lasaele 11-yard pass from Steve Finlay (Steve Finlay run) 3rd quarter TT - Matthew Rothwell 2-yard run (Cameron Dickson kick)
GL - Junior Lasaele 87-yard kick return (Stuart Duncan run) 4th quarter GL - Junior Lasaele 62-yard pass from Steve Finlay (Josh Bell kick)
GL - Stuart Duncan 26-yard run (kick failed)
TT - Matthew Rothwell 24-yard run (Antony Pezzullo pass from Michael Dawson) | | 1st | 2nd | 3rd | 4th | Final | | Firebirds | 0 | 7 | 14 | 7 | 28 | | Wildcats | 0 | 14 | 6 | 6 | 26 |
1st quarter No scoring 2nd quarter GW - Julian Thirkill 40-yard pass from Joseph Taula (kick failed)
UC - Jeremy Milne 65-yard run (Luke Job kick)
GW - Tommy Walsh 25-yard psas from Joseph Taula (Julian Thirkill pass from Joseph Taula) 3rd quarter GW - Patrick Molloy 30-yard pass from Joseph Taula (run failed)
UC - Jeremy Milne 15-yard pass from Luke Job (kick failed)
UC - Jeremy Milne 65-yard run (Beau Kennett pass from Luke Job) 4th quarter UC - Reece Cheater 2-yard run (Luke Job kick)
GW - Julian Thirkill 37-yard pass from Joseph Taula (pass failed) | | 1st | 2nd | 3rd | 4th | Final | | Astros | 6 | 0 | 6 | 8 | 20 | | Centurions | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0
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By Coach Hollywood - 7/09/2011 1:29:40 AM
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Totally see your point Sean on cut blocking - but while anything is in the rules - I'll use it to full advantage.
Great example was last year against Uni - Siaosi was getting cut all day (and if I were Uni - I would have done it all day to him too) It was his fault for thinking DLine, do and can always go forward at the snap .... once A) as a coach we did our job coaching him about what it is - how it's done - why its done and when its done B) Told him that you don't always need to cross the LOS to make a play - 2 yard gain for the O is still a loss - % says their still punting on fourth he became a better player - an O lineman lying on his belly on the ground is a useless player. I know a heap of teams that only cut on the backside of the play (to stop pursuit) I totally agree with no blocking below the waist on special teams - doing that on a player who has a 30 yard full speed run up is disaster - as we saw in 2009 NSW vs WA Juniors - That poor WA kid who got blocked on the opening kick off illegally - well I think he had a year of rehab before walking full again. Tom Bass - well thats his opinion - one coaches ...be interesting to do a national poll in the pro's and college to see what they think. Could ask Coach Paul Manera - he goes across regularly to the AFCA convention and talks to the college and pro coaches or even Coach John L with regards to the europe leagues. My priority is safety first - people know this ... and as said before - if it's in the rules, I'll use it. NCAA rule makers have time, money and research - so if they think it's ok - i'm fine with that - its then my job to coach the players the pros and cons of it. They made quite a few changes this year - more than I've seen in a while so who knows it might be on the cards - counter point : how many injuries do we have to have before they (the powers) consider it dangerous - but, as said before I see your point. Good discussion. oh Chimp - I've got the stats if you want me to post them to your Tree house.
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By Coach Hollywood - 8/09/2011 8:10:26 PM
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Morning all.
I usually don't post about issues - but its seams the right people on here can get the message - I'll also be bringing this up at the next league meeting. ACT Coaches - please get you guys to stop throwing their helmets on the sideline - and then usually following this up with the loud "F" Word. Every week we get teams doing this - last game on the Centurions, one player did it three times right in front on the grandstand - Week one Astros did it twice. A Gladiator player did it last week on the far sideline as well as a Wildcats player Coaches - please please get your players to quit it - I have started to see more family members, partners come to the games - hell, we have even got some cool little young ones playing gridiron on the grassed area in front of the canteen - lets keep them in the crowd - not lose them because someone can't control their tanty outburst. I've told my guys on Glads O if the helmet comes off on the sideline in anger - it stays off - you aint going back on the field in a hurry. May be the league could get a water table for you guys to tip over instead and we could get a special "phone booth" type thing on the sideline and for $5 swear entry you can go in and get it out of your system.
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By Coach Hollywood - 23/08/2011 8:09:03 PM
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2011 Seniors - Round 1 results -ACT Gridiron web site.
20 Aug 2011
The University of Canberra Firebirds won their fifth Charity Shield with a 14-0 win over the Tuggeranong Tornadoes in today’s opening round of the ACT Gridiron season.
The Firebirds scored all their points in the second quarter, before grinding out a relatively dour second half.
The Firebirds first score came after a Luke Job punt trapped the Tornadoes on their own two-yard line. Two plays later, Reece Cheater sacked Tuggeranong quarterback Michael Dawson, forcing a fumble that was recovered by defensive end Ian Lanham for a touchdown.
With less than two minutes remaining in the half, Firebirds running back Jeremy Milne darted around the left end for an 18-yard touchdown.
The Gungahlin Wildcats recorded the first win in club history with a 20-6 victory over the Astros.
New recruit Joseph Taula starred at quarterback, passing for touchdowns to Mark Burrage and Michael Radisich while running three yards for another – all in the second quarter.
Astros quarterback Steve Evans tossed a 14-yard touchdown pass to Jameson Gibbs on the final play of the game to avoid a shutout.
In the early game, the Woden Valley Gladiators comprehensively defeated the Centurions 24-0.
Running back Daniel Wade opened the scoring with a two-yard run in the second quarter, which was followed by scoring passes from quarterback Steve Finlay to receivers Junior Lasaele and Jerry Passey either side of halftime.
Gladiators running back Stuart Duncan chipped in six points with three two-point conversions.
Results
1st 2nd 3rd 4th Final
Firebirds 0 14 0 0 14
Tornadoes 0 0 0 0 0
1st quarter
No scoring
2nd quarter
UC – Ian Lanham recovered Michael Dawson fumble in end zone (Luke Job kick)
UC – Jeremy Milne 18-yard run (Luke Job kick)
3rd quarter
No scoring
4th quarter
No scoring
1st 2nd 3rd 4th Final
Gladiators 0 16 8 0 24
Centurions 0 0 0 0 0
1st quarter
No scoring
2nd quarter
Gl – Daniel Wade 2-yard run (Stuart Duncan run)
Gl – Junior Lasaele 58-yard pass from Steve Finlay (Stuart Duncan run)
3rd quarter
Gl – Jerry Passey 17-yard pass from Steve Finlay (Stuart Duncan run)
4th quarter
No scoring
1st 2nd 3rd 4th Final
Wildcats 0 20 0 0 20
Astros 0 0 0 6 6
1st quarter
No scoring
2nd quarter
GW – Mark Burrage 86-yard pass from Joseph Taula (Jacob Alofipo run)
GW – Joseph Taula 3-yard run (kick failed)
GW – Michael Radisich 24-yard pass from Joseph Taula (run failed)
3rd quarter
No scoring
4th quarter
As – Jameson Gibbs 14-yard pass from Steve Evans (run failed)
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By Coach Hollywood - 23/08/2011 8:15:21 PM
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27/8/11 - WEEK TWO GAAMES COMING UP
10:00am
Home - away - Duty team
Astros vs Firebirds - Wildcats
12:45pm
Centurions vs Tornadoes - Firebirds
3:30pm
Gladiators vs Wildcats - Tornadoes
Saturday 27 August
Summary Min 1 Max 16
Shower or two. Partly cloudy. Isolated showers. Light winds tending northwesterly up to 30 km/h during the afternoon.
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By Coach Hollywood - 2/09/2011 7:49:40 AM
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Spot on Chimp.Game 1 - Yep ..a biggy. The "Hollywood Hustle" offense (copyright 2011) vs Cody and Cam defense. Defense for both team will be key. The second match is going to be a "Cracker" ..I've got duty for this game....I'm honoured to be so close to the action for this one. and the third game - someone is gonna win..Paris can throw...he can.he's gotta get an oline to block and learn to read a D. Centurions will look for opportunities on O and D. Sunny and 18 forecast for Saturday.
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By Coach Hollywood - 4/09/2011 4:57:37 AM
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Round 3 of the ACT Gridiron league has come and gone.Scores Gladiators defeated Tuggeranong Tornadoes 38-15 (I think). Uni Canberra firebirds defeated Gungahlin Wildcats 28-26 Astros defeated Centurions 22-0.
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By Spook - 14/09/2011 7:18:19 PM
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hey guys sorry if iot seems like i'm digging up old issues but i would like to say i personally don't like cutting but it is part of the game. and it is a technique that can benefit fit a smaller lineman. i lined up against Sam From Firebirds couple of weeks ago and goit cut 3 times. and every time i complemented him on his technique. All that matters (to me ) is that we conduct ourselves on game day as honest and fair as we can. Not saying we're not gonna make mistakes... but it's how we try to minimize the mistakes & better ourselves on and of the field.
Thanks
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By Stump87 - 12/09/2011 8:57:56 PM
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That first TD in the 2nd game was interesting to say the least. Even on the field the whole offense took a moment to realize we'd put one in
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By Stump87 - 13/09/2011 4:09:23 AM
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so chimp, which offense are centurions going to run as your prediction in this rounds preview?
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By Stump87 - 14/09/2011 7:04:03 PM
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Nice and windy, that'll be good for everyones passing games
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By Stump87 - 14/09/2011 8:21:43 PM
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I play o line and I think I've cut twice in my career. I understand it's uses and can see why guys would use it but its something that needs to be coached properly. I've actually heard coaches teach to aim for the knees. This is F#(%ING ridiculous. I learnt to cut shoulder to thigh and thats how it should be. The problem isn't with cutting itself, its with bad coaches. As far as how to handle yourself on game day, I had a d guy grab my facemask about 3-4 times in a series. He was obviously a rookie (you could tell by how uncomfortable he looked) He pulled me aside between plays and actually apologized to me. He wasn't intentionally being dirty, just couldn't get his hand placement right.
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By Stump87 - 23/09/2011 9:45:57 PM
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The problem with bringing the season back is even if our first game is the week after rugby finals, how do you get those guys to learn about the game in pre season?And then how is it far if someone has been working their arse off all preseason (2-3 trainings per week) only to have someone walk in, be faster and stronger and take their starting spot? I think to improve the league and get more players we need to increase interest in the sport overall. The problem with watching games is that they are boring. Not a relection on the quality of play in the league but unless you are an avid football fan it is a dull sport to watch, especially with all the breaks taking place. Also, I know a lot of people (my wife included) who have sat there and watched wondering why the refs are through yellow things on the field, what the 3 chumps on the far side are doing with those poles etc. etc. (To her credit, she has learnt what all these things mean and now enjoys watching) To improve people rocking up to watch, you need to do it in two ways. 1)Increased exposure-Radio ads, posters, guys running around with sandwhich boards, someone standing out the front of the hyperdome firing a shotgun into the air screaming "football Football, Get your Football!" A lot of people I talk to in Canberra (and I'm a salesmen so I talk to different people everyday) don't even realise canberra has a league. Before we can think about charging people ala roller derby we need to get people just rocking up. 2)Improve Quality for spectators that do turn up-As I said, a little rules thing every week like they have at the finals, a commentator to explain why everyone is just standing around. And the other thing, make it family friendly. I swear. I swear a lot but I sure as hell don't want my 2 year old hearing players and coaches on the field screaming every 4 letter word under the sun. If we present ourselves like professionals people will treat us as such. If we rock up, swearing, throwing helmets and carrying on like a bunch of school children no one is gonna care. How does getting spectators in increase player numbers? Easy, if 1 in 10 people who come to watch think "Man, looks like fun, I'd give that a go" then the league numbers increase. Summer is a boring time sportsfans and our season is well timed. So we won't have much interest for the first few games, the rest of the season falls before cricket really kicks off to drag bored husbands off the that all day. As Ado said, the reason roller derby draws such good numbers is because they do the above and the people involved are all working towards a common cause, to improve the quality of the game. When all the teams in canberra start showing with 40+ players every game, a new team will be forced to form. More teams=more competition=more games for your $300 Just my 2 cents anyway, unfortunatley I don't have the time to be involved in the politics of Gridiron ACT, maybe someone on here will read this, claim it as their own idea and go to these league meetings to improve the game, to which I say say, go for it. I don't want credit for anything I say, I just want to play football.
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By Stump87 - 28/09/2011 8:56:23 PM
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You mean refs make mistakes? Thats impossible, they aren't human.... oh wait....Our refs are out there every week trying doing the best they can. Would I like to see us with NCAA Div 1 refs here? sure. Am I gonna pay for it? Not a chance. I don't agree with every call made but these guys are out there in their own time letting us play the game. I think people in general need to lay off the refs a bit. Even the duty guys are young and I know for a fact that some of them are soo scared of the abuse they'll cop if they make a bad call they don't want to throw a flag but then they get abused for that as well. Abusing refs gets you no where anyway. If you have a problem, there is normally film of every game floating around (thanks UC) If your losing because of "bad calls" maybe you weren't going well enough to pull out a win anyway.
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By Stump87 - 19/10/2011 11:57:21 PM
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Shawn,I just want to jump to your defence. As a nadeos player, that game could not of been called better. The issues with Glads right tackle not lining up on the los was dealt with by both the sideline ref and yourself. As a player, it makes the game a hell of a lot easier to play when you know your refs will call when they need to.
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By Stump87 - 27/10/2011 1:11:22 AM
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Well now what am I going to do at work
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By Kong - 14/07/2011 9:18:16 PM
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Bit of a soft round-up Chimp, where is the rumour and innuendo that surrounds the Pre-season. I have heard that the Firebirds and Tuggeranong are struggling for numbers, especially the Tornadoes with Finlay and Zirkler (can anyone confirm that Zirkler broke his leg at the World cup) jumping ship to the Gladiators (gotta wonder if this will pay off), and the loss of last years Centre, LineBacker (Foy) and Running Back (Moroney). Also I have Heard that a couple of the Gladiators guys packed up and went to Wildcats.
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By LoneDingo - 13/11/2011 12:43:34 PM
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Well done to the Firebirds on making it 6 championships in 7 years.
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By LoneDingo - 6/03/2012 12:14:08 PM
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Jay, ignore the faceless minority that will complain loudly on here but neither say anything to your face or play an active role lest they lose their anonymity and actually be hel accountable. Thought I taught you better than that.
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By The Hated - 27/10/2011 2:52:43 AM
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You will be missed Chimp...
If you get your own forum up please let us all know as Im sure there are a lot of people who would love to keep reading your posts.
The Hated #64
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By The Hated - 6/11/2011 8:03:44 PM
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Im the Chimp... Oh wait Nathan is the Chimp... SHAWN IS THE CHIMP... he controls so much of the ACTG he may as well be the Chimp as well...
P.S the last 2 comments were from the 'Firebirds camp'
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By The Hated - 6/11/2011 9:33:17 PM
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More people in a tent than I am comfortable with Finny.
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By The Hated - 6/11/2011 10:41:56 PM
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Case in point LOL thanks Centurions dude for putting those up... There is too much love from some of the boys.
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By The Hated - 7/11/2011 12:31:30 AM
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I thought it was a Cents photographer who took it on the day if Im mistaken Im sorry.
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By Chilli Palmer - 7/11/2011 10:49:39 PM
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Beeker, do you need a tissue? or Hug?
I suggest lifting your skirt and just checking to see that your manhood is still there...
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By Chilli Palmer - 10/11/2011 10:06:15 PM
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WRONG AGAIN..... IT should be as follows
ACT ALL STARS TEAM 2011
QB - WC #13 ASTROS
RB - ASTROS
FB - CENTS
WR - TT #18, GLADS Junior Island/polynesian guy (sorry dont know your no.) ASTROS
LT/RT - GLD #77, TORN #78 ASTROS
LG/RG - GLD #54, FB #78 CENTS
C - GLD #42 ASTROS
DEFENSE
S - TC ASTROS
CB - ASSSSSSTROS
LB - CENTS
DL - CENTS
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By Chilli Palmer - 11/11/2011 12:44:37 AM
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Bullrush (10/11/2011)
Chilli Palmer (10/11/2011)
WRONG AGAIN..... IT should be as follows
ACT ALL STARS TEAM 2011
QB - WC #13 ASTROS
RB - ASTROS
FB - CENTS
WR - TT #18, GLADS Junior Island/polynesian guy (sorry dont know your no.) ASTROS
LT/RT - GLD #77, TORN #78 ASTROS
LG/RG - GLD #54, FB #78 CENTS
C - GLD #42 ASTROS
DEFENSE
S - TC ASTROS
CB - ASSSSSSTROS
LB - CENTS
DL - CENTS ROFLMAO - you're 'aving a go right!?!?
Does this look like a face that jests?
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By Chilli Palmer - 11/11/2011 6:25:17 AM
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X (10/11/2011)
LT/RT - GLD #77, TORN #78 #78 is DL. TT #67.
Played both ways a bit - Stoopid Ironman football Nadoes 78
The word on the street is - Bats both ways a bit too......
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By Chilli Palmer - 11/11/2011 6:25:55 AM
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X (10/11/2011)
LT/RT - GLD #77, TORN #78 #78 is DL. TT #67.
Played both ways a bit - Stoopid Ironman football Nadoes 78
Bats both ways a bit too......
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By Chilli Palmer - 11/11/2011 7:47:23 PM
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Bullrush (11/11/2011)
Coach Hollywood (11/11/2011)
Its good with all this chat about an "all star team" ....but its on paper - what I want to see is all of these selected at the state team for the nationals...We have had the players for some years - but not everyone can make it for various reasons Any idea on what the cost of Nationals is gonna be? Roughly?
Once again i believe it to be in the ballpark of $1500 per player
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By Bullrush - 27/07/2011 8:46:02 PM
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Te huhka faina Maori boyz (26/07/2011)
hey canberra teams I think yas might have new champs this season as I here ya UC firebirds are playin a scrimmage vs a Sydney team(penrith city outlaws) & where the outlaws are turning up with 50-60 players the so called champs can only muster 18 guys ... hmmm is that cause ya's are scared to take on the outlaws or just any team from GNSW it's a shame no other teams took up the offer of a practice game ..... just like 2 also say good luck to the Astros(act) & seahawks(nsw)who play a scrimmage down there as well hope ya get good numbers ....... and lastly come on firebirds come show us ya champs or should it be UC fire chickensOhhhhhhh.....yeah - ACT is scared of big bad NSW....pffffttttttt. With it's population of approx 4 million people, NSW boasts 9 teams in their comp. From the 360,000-odd people in Canberra, the ACT has 6 teams. And you wonder why some clubs struggle for numbers. I wish I was playing one of these teams on Saturday now - this kiwi right here would have some fun rolling a few NSW weekend warrior pretenders. But I really shouldn't feed the trolls.....
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By Bullrush - 2/08/2011 11:27:35 PM
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[quote]milehigh (29/07/2011)
A few good hit outs for this weekend coming up in Canberra. Forecast is for a nice Sunny 15 degrees. Sounds like perfect football weather to me. I think (not 100% sure) that these are all the pre season games: UC Firebirds v Penrith Outlaws Astros v Sutherland Seahawks Centurions v Gungahlin Wildcats It's great having some interleague matches between ACT and NSW. Variety is the spice of life. In other news the Astros and Centurions have come out with new website designs for the season. http://www.centurionsgridiron.com http://www.astrosgridiron.com.au/[/quote] Any match reports?
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By Bullrush - 21/08/2011 9:57:52 AM
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they call him back in NZ 'Torpedo Joe' as reference to his throwing technique, full name is Joseph Taula, hes been representing NZ Gridiron overseas since he was 17/18yrs of age and is usually their first string QB (hes nearing 30 these days) so hes not new to the sport by any means. He loves this sport and thrives on teaching others to be as passionate and driven to make this sport a success no matter where he lives so don't be surprised if this isnt the last win for the Wildcats this year.
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By Bullrush - 6/09/2011 8:24:33 PM
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A slow news week in ACT it seems.......soooooooooo - does anyone else think the league should look to ban cut blocks?
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By Bullrush - 6/09/2011 8:51:37 PM
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Hmmm (6/09/2011)
Hmmm...no. If done correctly they are effective, if done badly you can step around them and make the play.
Hmmmmm........if done badly they can f**k someone's knee up.... why not learn to block properly?
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By Bullrush - 6/09/2011 9:42:18 PM
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Hmmm (6/09/2011)
Of course it can injure someone but so can bad tackling technique etc..and a cut block is a proper block. Otherwise D-line could run through knowing that there is no cut blocking making their job easier. At least with the cut block in play the D-line do have to use their brains a bit... (I know linemen and brains don't mix...)
Are cut blocks banned in the national comp?
You're kidding yourself. It's probably universally accepted that the risk of injury and serious injury is much higher with cut blocks. And don't insult the D-Lines intellect. If the O-Line (or their coach) is smart enough themselves, there's no need for cut blocking. And as I don't want to engage in those silly insults, I'll keep some of my thoughts on why an O-Lineman mite cut to myself for now.
But I'll quote someone else (I have bolded the first part myself and I wonder if this is one of the goals of the ACTG):
As a coach, one of our most important goals should be to provide the safest possible environment for all players – ours and our opponents. Because a cut block lends itself to an increase and severity in knee injuries, I encourage coaches not to teach it or allow their players to use it.
I realize the temptation will always be there to teach the cut block if your offensive linemen are smaller than the defensive players or if your linemen have the tendency to stand straight up, but I hope you will not succumb to this temptation.
Instead of using a cut, block you might consider using angle, cross, trap or combination block to overcome a size mismatch.
Coach Tom Bass
Coach Tom Bass, a 30-year NFL Coach and a technical writer and advisor for USA Football, also is the author of several football coaching books, including "Play Football the NFL Way" (St. Martin's Press), the only authorized NFL coaching book, "Football Skills and Drills" (Human Kinetics) and "The New Coaches Guide to Youth Football Skills and Drills" (McGraw Hill). If you would like to order a personalized autographed copy of Coach Bass' books, copies of his printed “In-Depth Coaching Clinics” or “NFL or College Sport Maps,”
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By Bullrush - 15/11/2011 10:47:09 PM
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How about a guy who has been with 2 different teams and within 2 seasons, taken both teams from bottom of the league to the Finals?
That guy would be my first pick in any All Star team.
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By Bullrush - 16/11/2011 12:53:31 AM
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BTW - well done to the Firebirds for their deserved win on the weekend. I really thought we had the goods to beat them but they were just too good on the day. They took their opportunities (and to their credit, made a few from not much) and we didn't.
Anyway, enjoyed playing this year and loved beating the pre-season expectations to go all the way to the dance. Maybe next year.......
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By Bullrush - 5/01/2012 8:34:36 AM
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Coach Hollywood (27/10/2011)
As for the Dad issue aka Bucs - well Bucs needs to go and get his old eye's checked - those playing days - the older I get the better I was - have really knocked him around.If your the guy who's going to spin so much crap - well may be it's great that you go and never come back. I can't wait till the season is over and our media ban is over - I soooo look forward to correcting quite a few wrongs from a few people...The season is over. Is the media ban?
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By Bullrush - 6/03/2012 3:42:14 AM
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PhAntOM fLaG (5/03/2012)
Too True Hollywood
I too, am very keen to see what this NEW TEAM is like, to say the LEAST I am very keen to see what the NEW 2012/13 EXEC is going to bring to the sport. . . . probably nothing
Jury is out on that one, To see one name going for all the positions and not get one of them strikes me as 'ODD' - is there a undergoing theme here that I am not privy too?
Heres another thing, who the HELL are the x2 new people on the Board, never HEARD OF THEM, NEVER SEEN THEM, PROBABLY WON'T EVEN see them through out the season. (Were they their for the JUNIOR SEASON OPENER????? hmmm don't think so, did they introduce themeselves to other club members, are they a presence in and around the clubs, asking players/coaches/officials what we could do to make it better, hmmmmm)
I love the Junior Timing (GAME CLOCK) system, a thought might be to Try in the Senior Season?
Well at least for now the Junior season looks well under away, hope they get alot of support as the sport will quickly die just like any chance of having a decent Summer this year - (with all this rain you'd think we were in Queensland).
The 'new team' has a junior squad and anyone who was 'keen' enough could have seen them in action for themselves on the first game day. In terms of the new exec - who stood for which positions?
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By Bullrush - 6/03/2012 11:45:14 PM
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LoneDingo (6/03/2012)
Jay, ignore the faceless minority that will complain loudly on here but neither say anything to your face or play an active role lest they lose their anonymity and actually be hel accountable. Thought I taught you better than that.
Disagree.
Good on ya Jay. I'm already encouraged just by your post. Good luck in the new role mate and I'm sure you'll do your best - as I think most people do when they get these roles, I mite add.
We mite not always agree with what Execs etc do and how they may handle individual situations butI'd like to believe that most people have the best of the sport in general at heart....
**Disclaimer** There are obviously exceptions!!
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By Bullrush - 8/11/2011 10:07:00 PM
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sonicboom (8/11/2011)
shakespeare (8/11/2011)
finimac2 (7/11/2011)
Looking at the penalty count may give a different impression 7 penalties vs 10 seems relatively balanced, what really killed us was that the majority of our penalties came on big plays were we had gained 10+ yards on a run or a pass. Can't solely balme the refs though and credit goes to the wildcats goodluck to them and the firebirds on Saturday.
A question I have though is what is the point of playing the whole season with 4 man crews then getting to the finals and playing with a 7 man crew? finimac2, you get 5 man crews all year long, this is a referee (white cap), umpire, two linesman and a back judge. it could be that one game you had a 4 man crew because there simply wasnt anybody available, in fact there have been a few 6 or 7 man crews this year because the wildcats supplied more refs than were required, that may not have been for a glads game though in any case rather than complain about the lack of referees on thebear why dont you do the level 0 online refs course (takes about 1 hour if you skip all the reading ) go learn how to ref for the junior season and then come referee again in seniors, its very easy to criticise referees until you become one, and you realise that its not as easy as it seems Shakespeare. Yes it is very easy to criticise referees. You know what makes it even easier? When the head of referees in Australia is at the game along with the Australian Head Coach and they say that the standard of refereeing was terrible. They even went as far as to say it was one of the worst diplays they had seen. Makes it very easy to criticise I think
How can that be?!?! GA put sooooooooo much effort and time and resource into the game how could this possibly be?!?!? Astonishing!! Oh well....I guess we should just all pack this gridiron thing up and then GA can put all that massive resource and energy somewhere else. Who gives two flying hoots WTF anyone from GA thinks........not me - if you couldn't tell.
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By Bullrush - 9/11/2011 12:48:04 AM
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sonicboom (8/11/2011)Its attitudes like yours that are ruining the game in this country. I played other codes of football before finding gridiron and I know for a fact in those other codes that if the head of referee's thinks they had a poor performance then its a long time before they get to referee again. These guys are doing the capital bowl the following week WTF. With people like you around and attitudes like yours this sport will never grow. Whether you like it or not GA is responsible for the sport in this country and for the standards it is run by. Do you think we would just be better having a bunch of state leagues with no affiliation to each other or accountability to anyone. I bet that would help the sport grow. I think the league would be better off without people like you. Some off us love this game, are passionate about it and want to see it grow and thats not gonn happen with this bush league mentality your coming with. I've played against you and I have watched you play. and from what I have seen you play the game hard and enjoy it, but god help us all if you ever try to get into running a club or league because you will set the sport back 10 - 15 years
"These guys are doing the capital bowl the following week". I'm sorry - are there quite a lot of other refs we can replace these guys with? And here I thought we were pretty short on officials. "Whether you like it or not GA is responsible for the sport in this country and for the standards it is run by. Do you think we would just be better having a bunch of state leagues with no affiliation to each other or accountability to anyone." - And who is GA accountable to? Exactly what does GA provide to the ACTG, it's teams and it's players that we should be so grateful for? What does it provide that couldn't be done 'in-house'? "I bet that would help the sport grow." - As opposed to the phenomenal growth it is currently experiencing right? "I think the league would be better off without people like you." - That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. "I've played against you and I have watched you play. and from what I have seen you play the game hard and enjoy it" - Cheers. Best thing you've written so far. "but god help us all if you ever try to get into running a club or league because you will set the sport back 10 - 15 years" - maybe the 2nd best thing you've written LOL. Look, seriously....what does GA really provide to ACTG?? For the fees that we pay as players, teams and a league, what does GA do for us? Crappy insurance cover? The chance to pay another $6,000 to play at the World Champs? Have I missed anything substantial?
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By Bullrush - 10/11/2011 9:50:47 PM
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chucky (10/11/2011)
PhAntOM fLaG (10/11/2011)
ACT ALL STARS TEAM 2011
QB - WC #13 Should be either FB #13 or GL #6
RB - FB #22
FB - WC #22 GL #47
WR - TT #18, GLADS Junior Island/polynesian guy (sorry dont know your no.) GL #25, WC #37
TE - FB #18
LT/RT - GLD #77, TORN #78 #78 is DL. TT #67.
LG/RG - GLD #54, FB #78 GL #61
C - GLD #42 FB #78
DEFENSE
S - GL #21, TT #15
CB - TT #30, CN #31
LB - TT #39, GL #34, FB #44
DL - GL #90, GL #99, GL #48, TT #91,
FAIL! LOL
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By Bullrush - 10/11/2011 10:26:39 PM
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Chilli Palmer (10/11/2011)
WRONG AGAIN..... IT should be as follows
ACT ALL STARS TEAM 2011
QB - WC #13 ASTROS
RB - ASTROS
FB - CENTS
WR - TT #18, GLADS Junior Island/polynesian guy (sorry dont know your no.) ASTROS
LT/RT - GLD #77, TORN #78 ASTROS
LG/RG - GLD #54, FB #78 CENTS
C - GLD #42 ASTROS
DEFENSE
S - TC ASTROS
CB - ASSSSSSTROS
LB - CENTS
DL - CENTS
ROFLMAO - you're 'aving a go right!?!?
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By Bullrush - 11/11/2011 7:33:17 PM
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Coach Hollywood (11/11/2011)
Its good with all this chat about an "all star team" ....but its on paper - what I want to see is all of these selected at the state team for the nationals...We have had the players for some years - but not everyone can make it for various reasons
Any idea on what the cost of Nationals is gonna be? Roughly?
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By Bullrush - 12/11/2011 2:35:43 AM
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Chilli Palmer (11/11/2011)
Bullrush (11/11/2011)
Coach Hollywood (11/11/2011)
Its good with all this chat about an "all star team" ....but its on paper - what I want to see is all of these selected at the state team for the nationals...We have had the players for some years - but not everyone can make it for various reasons Any idea on what the cost of Nationals is gonna be? Roughly? Once again i believe it to be in the ballpark of $1500 per player
There's 1,500 various reasons some won't make it....LOL
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By Bullrush - 24/09/2011 5:59:32 AM
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Ryan (23/09/2011)
Bullrush - I do feel that radios ads, guys with sandwich boards, a commentator for games, improved refs. All of that cost money and takes time. I was not saying that a 3 week delay in the season was a grand scheme. I just don't agree with it.
Wally - Every crew of refs for every game has to constantly balance the speed of the game versus the accuracy of the calls. I don't mind a couple of quick chats to get the call as close to right as they are capable. Plus it's an opportunity for sr refs to give a bit OJT to the jr refs and get that improvement everybody wants.
Right...I get what you're getting at now Ryan.
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By Bullrush - 26/09/2011 9:55:15 PM
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Hail to the Chimp (25/09/2011)
Round 6 Review
Game 1 - Wildcats 20 defeat Astros 8
Well the Astros certainly did bring it to this game and at half time were in the lead. Unfortunately a combination of a brilliant opening kick-off return for td in the 2nd half by Patrick Mollor and lack of numbers had the Astros on the backfoot and victory slipped from the grasp.
Cheers
Chimp
The whole 'lack of numbers' thing gets tired. The Astros played a great game and in the first half in particular, were better than we were. But we definitely felt that were not playing our best football and we were able to switch on and take our game up a level after the half.
If the Astros are good enough on the day, number or not, they will step up as well. There may be difficulties with having limited numbers but the opposition can only play what's in front of them (do I sound like Robbie Deans?? LOL) and 'lack of numbers' detracts from what happened on the field to me.
I'm pretty sure the Astros themselves would never 'hide' behind this.
Oh....and I thought the 'mercy rule' couldn't be enforced unless both coaches agreed to it?
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By Bullrush - 26/09/2011 11:01:48 PM
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OK...cheers Holywood
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By Bullrush - 20/10/2011 8:02:27 AM
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I thought we had a couple of bad calls against us on the weekend. In a tight game they are really hard to swallow. I'm considering posting a video of one in particular which was just ridiculous.
We'll see.
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By Bullrush - 20/10/2011 9:04:03 PM
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WhoCares (19/10/2011)
Guys are any of you aware we actually PLAY football on weekends? - Go do the officiating courses, learn how to ref, ref a couple of games and study online videos, travel interstate to know and learn good and bad calls.
- Go do the coaching courses, learn how to coach, coach a team, lose some games, win some games understand our sport is more than mental more than just physical and more than just a bunch of guys doing stuff.
- Attend Committee meetings of your clubs and the damn league
- Get your ass to the gym, prepare your body, cut blocks haven't ever been a problem if your not a, stupid and b, fast
- Spend some time running the field, Gridiron is about performance and speed go get some.
Now ofcourse everyone is going to come back and say, but I don't, I can't, blah blah blah...... Then shut the hell up and play the damn game as best you can. Hell offer some praise to people who perform well. You all seem to have enough time to whinge on here but not enough time to REALLY make the game better or encourage those who are and do. I understand as Australians we sling shit that's fine, I find 'Fail Chimp' hilarious at times, but guys stop the whining, concentrate on the great parts of our games and maybe just maybe they'll occur more often and we'll all be able to have a better time out there.
Someone needs to tell Tom O'Brien that his players simply need to get their asses to the gym.
O'Brien: Cut blocks contributed to injuries
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There are injuries, and then there are NC State’s injuries. Yes, they are a part of the game, but there have been an inordinate amount of injuries during coach Tom O’Brien’s tenure, and this year has exceeded that trend by even NC State's standards. On Saturday at Virginia, NC State expects to start its fourth different combination on the defensive line in just six games, with all of the turnover attributed to injuries. That doesn’t include the injuries to the linebackers, the secondary or the offense, all of which have prevented NC State from reaching its full potential this season. So what gives? Why is NC State one of the most injury-laden programs in the ACC? This is not a strength and conditioning issue. It's not muscles, it's bones, and it's happening at the line of scrimmage. Three players have broken bones, three players have injured knees, and two others have ankle injuries. O'Brien attributed them to legal but costly blocks. “Last year we stay healthy, we miss two games all year on defense and we win nine games, get ranked, the whole thing," O’Brien said. "Right now we’ve already missed 24 games by guys on defense, and they’re all at the same spot, defensive tackle, defensive end and one linebacker. “It’s broken bone. We’ve got guys with broken bones in their foot. We’ve got guys who have been cut-blocked at the line of scrimmage that have knees and ankles. If you start pulling muscles, then I’ll start talking about strength and conditioning. When you’re getting chopped and your ankle or your knee goes, that’s a structural problem.” NC State entered this season with three redshirt seniors on the defensive line and two of the best, J.R. Sweezy (broken bone in foot) and defensive end Jeff Rieskamp have been out. The Pack also lost their top backup on the defensive line, Thomas Teal, who broke his foot. Linebacker Terrell Manning got tangled up with an offensive tackle, and was sidelined for three weeks with a knee injury. Last year, during NC State's nine-win season, only two players missed a total of three games on defense and both were backups. In six games, players have combined to miss 20 games already on defense. That's more than the entire 2009 season, in which a total of 13 games were missed by injured defenders. This season's injury list has set a whole new precedent. The bye week didn’t help NC State’s injured list much, but historically, the Wolfpack have been at their best in the second half of the season under O’Brien. NC State is 13-11 in the last six games of the regular season during O’Brien’s tenure. In 2007, O’Brien’s first season in Raleigh, State opened the season with a 1-5 record, but then won four of its last six games (including four in a row). In 2008, after opening ACC play 0-4 and starting with a 2-6 overall record, the team won four in a row to become the first league team ever to start out so poorly and finish at .500 in the ACC. In 2009, NC State was in a similar injury situation and was just 2-4 in the second half of the season. Last year, the program finished the season with a 3-3 mark, including wins over No. 16 FSU and UNC. “Our first year it was a question of getting the right people in the lineup,” O’Brien said. “We had the wrong people in the wrong spots and were able to restructure the defense and offense. The second year, we were in a situation like we’re in now, where we had so many injuries in the first half of the year, we couldn’t get any continuity until we got to the off week and got people healthy and got back at it again. We were hoping that would be the case again this year, but we haven’t gotten people back from the injury list, so we used the off week to try to get the guys that are going to have to play now the second half fundamentally sound and better football players. We are who we are and we’re going to go play the second half of the year.”
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By Bullrush - 7/11/2011 7:15:32 PM
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cheers
"Cheers"?!?! You got the penalty count you were looking for. Where is the big bias towards one team you were implying? Late hits after the whistle?!?! Laughable.
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By Bullrush - 21/09/2011 1:27:54 AM
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Apparently proposing it every year doesn't help??
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By Bullrush - 21/09/2011 4:10:54 AM
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Ryan,
Not sure who called the Astros 'quitters'. One QB who does a lot of 'moon-lighting' is Joe Taula. Just this week alone he had 2 tackles (1 for a loss of yards), 1 punt return, 3 receptions and 7 passes. Interested to know why you think pushing the season back would drive players away. Or how you know that pushing the season back wouldn't make our sport or game more attractive. You guys lost 4 players even before the first kick-off - are you sure those spots couldn't have been filled by one of the 3,000-odd senior rugby players in the ACT and Southern NSW?? Reflex, Ideally, teams should be made up mostly from people who permanently live in the region. I would hope that this isn't the main reason that shifting the season hasn't been accepted. The sport should be catering for the permanent residents of the area rather than the needs of one (maybe 2 now) teams whose primary source of players only live here temporarily. Gridiron is a minor sport competing with these other codes for all sorts of resources - including players. To force prospective players to chose between a game they already know and enjoy and one which they have had little exposure to before at a substantial cost difference with a "if they want to play they will" attitude (I never said that BTW) will not grow the game.
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By Bullrush - 23/09/2011 5:49:28 AM
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Playmaker (22/09/2011)
Reading this to keep up with my old Astros teammates and it sucks to hear they still have small numbers.
Ever play football in the heat, it's like death and you will lose players for sure and small teams like the Astros will die out fast. I remember the year and a bit I was there for at the start of the season with our small numbers and it still being semi cool we were able to play both ways and keep up, as the season went into hotter days it felt like hell trying to play.
When you play in heat with all that gear. both ways and special teams its easy to get injured as you tend to not pound your feet all day and plant for longer.
Read a bit about cut blocking here too, run under control and you won't get cut. Its the idiots who rush balls out with no body control who take a good cut and cry.
Yeah....playing football in the heat and the teams like the Astros will die out fast. Cos what they are doing now is working really well for them. What I don't get about your logic though is that if it's the heat that causes injuries.....why do the Astros still have so many injuries (when it's not as hot) and why don't other teams suffer from injuries to the same extent given that they play in the same heat. I don't suppose it ever occurred to you that maybe the whole having to play both ways and special teams due to not having the numbers as actually what causes the players to get tired and "not pound your feet all day and plant for longer." Nah....that couldn't be it. FFS. I won't comment on your ridiculously idiotic and insulting comment on cut blocks. Actually, we had a play on the weekend where out O-Lineman was cut by a D-Lineman just diving straight at his feet. It took his legs out from under him and the D-Lineman on the other side ran into his legs while our other O-Lineman was making a block on him. We got called for a chop-block and lost the TD. I've watched this play a number of times on film - if I can I mite try and get it up here to see what others think. "It's not the strongest guys, it the toughest cut block guys"
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By Bullrush - 23/09/2011 5:58:19 PM
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Guys,
The season at the moment finishes around 12th Nov when the average temperature is 15 degrees - max 22 degrees. In December, the average is 18.5 degrees - max 26. And you'd probably think that the higher temperatures are later in the month - after when Pete has proposed we could shift the season. |
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By Bullrush - 23/09/2011 9:13:22 PM
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Thanks Adrian. My numbers were right but the wording wasn't quite. My point though is still valid - the difference in temperature between 12th of Nov and 1st of Dec is hardly worth all the concern mentioned here.
As for the 'mythical' players, I didn't realise these guys played winter sport in the ACT:
And of course this guy.......although work commitments may keep him from playing. And the heat
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By Bullrush - 24/09/2011 1:48:59 AM
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@Stump87 - Yes. It will still be difficult to get these guys to all the pre-season trainings etc but we get a foot in the door. The 4-5 guys who I know for example, would have had a pretty steep learning curve at first but if they get to play the whole season, the likelihood of them coming back next season is higher. Hard to get guys to commit when we're already a third or halfway thru the season by the time they can commit to playing.
And yes, I think you probably will have cases where fitter, faster and stronger guys quickly displace guys who have been there for all of the pre-season etc. When Wallabies come back to their clubs after national duties are over, they replace guys who have been with the team all year. Unfortunately, that's sport and that's life.
And if you can get more players in teams, you will probably get more people coming to games because about 90% of the spectators are personal friends or family of the players.
@Ryan - I don't really think that pushing the season back 3 weeks as Pete suggested is really a 'grand scheme.' I don't think it would require extra funds or additional man-power. It's doing excatly what we're doing this year but starting 3 weeks later to give us an opportunity to recruit more players and I must stress - more athletes.
Apart from heat and uni student concerns, both of which I think have been addressed, is there any other reason why we wouldn't consider this?
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By Bullrush - 15/09/2011 10:26:29 PM
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Firstly - how good were my picks last week?!?! Pretty much spot on This week is tougher.
Game 1. Surprise surprise....I'll take the Wildcats in a close one. This could be the week the Wildcats Offense finally clicks - the onus is on the D to stop the Nadoes. I think we can do it.
Game 2. Gladiators. The worst D in the league plays the best offense YTD. You do the math.
Game 3. Firebirds. In almost a mirror image to Game 2, the worst offense in the league plays the 2nd best defense YTD. The 'I Pis on Wildcats' offense could morph into a Wildcats formation mixed with a wish bone plus 1 - also known as 'Wish I was a Wildcat' offense. This offense is also known to RBs as the 'Wish I was a wide receiver' offense
Anyways - there's my picks.....
GO THE WILDCATS!!
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By Bullrush - 18/09/2011 5:56:28 PM
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Joe injured his wrist a few weeks ago against the Firebirds and then aggravated it in training this week so Patch got the call-up. I actually thought Patch did a great job but your call on the 'Undisciplined Rabble' proved to be prophetic.
Bring on Round 2!!
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By Bullrush - 19/09/2011 7:48:50 PM
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So the Astros are down on numbers again this year and the word I've heard on the street is that there are a number of teams who are struggling to get good numbers to trainings.
Why don't we wait until the rugby and league seasons are done (ar at least close to finished) before we start gridiron? How many more players - and dare I say athletes - would we attract to our game if we shifted the timing of the season?
The rugby finals were just last weekend and while some guys would be keen to play, they have to be registered and paid by the weekend gone to be eligible. It seems to me that we actually disqualify - or at the very least make it very difficult for - a lot of the game's natural and most logical player market.
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By Bullrush - 19/09/2011 8:48:56 PM
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Yeah....I think it's 4 games. So the max a rugby player might get is 6 games plus finals if they qualify.
Given that fees are $300-$400 for most clubs (I think), who would do that? Even if you dropped the fees to lowest possible, it's still about $145 for 6 games just to cover GA/ACTG fee. Not really attractive is it?
You also need to take into consideration that these guys are training for rugby/league during the week so to get them along to more training sessions for gridiron at the same time becomes very unlikely.
Anyway - why settle for 6 weeks when they could be playing all season.
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By Bullrush - 20/09/2011 11:16:26 AM
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X (19/09/2011)
I couldn't think of anything worse than pushing the season back a few weeks - It's a winter sport, and we already struggle in 30+ Degree heat late season. Bring on the Vic season - Mid winter, good for us "+ Size" players!
I understand the point about players from other codes, but who wants to pad up in the middle of summer?
Can't think of anything worse? How about teams folding because they don't have enough players? I mean, can you imagine if games were stopped mid-way thru because of lack of numbe.......oh, wait a minute.... How many people live in Melbourne? And how big is rugby or league there? And how different are the answers for those questions in the ACT?
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By Bullrush - 20/09/2011 8:22:32 PM
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Good response X.
I realise that there are more issues around the Astros than just numbers but if they had more players standing on the sidelines on Saturday, would the game have finished at half-time?
And while some clubs have got a number of players on the books, getting them all paid up and to training regularly is another story. I've heard of at least 3 clubs that regularly get 12-20 players to training. Even with 35-40 players on the roster.
Like Jeremy and Jarrett, my brother and I also played rugby this year. We were unable to play in our club finals because we chose to play Gridiron......this year anyway. I also personally know of at least another 4-5 guys who would have liked to play this year but didn't because of rugby. So while some of us will play both or choose gridiron over rugby/league, we are the exception rather than the rule. And to Flemdog's point earlier, for new players to the game, they need the pre-season training to learn the game and the basics - which is difficult when they are already training twice a week and playing on the weekend.
Understand that pushing the season back a few weeks makes it quite close to Christmas and the Junior season but it's not impossible. Back home in Auckland, I think we start in October, take a couple of weeks off over Christmas and finish the season in Feb. While the league may lose some players due to Dec committments, the possibility is that it may actually pull more players - and athletes - overall.
I also agree with Wikus that $300-odd dollars is a lot to fork out for 10 games of gridiron. I paid about $150 this year for about 20-odd games of rugby. Not really sure what can be done about that though given the cost of equipment, insurance etc.
Maybe the whole season needs to be broken down, stripped back and looked at from scratch eg. timing, Juniors/Senior season run concurrently, pricing, GA etc.?
Finally, I can't think of a lot better ways to spend a beautiful day then by putting on short socks (you can choose to wear short ones when it's hot ), a helmet, pads, gloves, playing a hard game of gridiron and then cooling off at the beach, BBQ, pub, park - wherever - with a beer.
Cheers
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By Bullrush - 12/09/2011 12:21:54 AM
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Lemonaide (11/09/2011)
Now that we have more safeties that are not looking for the ball and are just going for the big hit *cough* Tino and Tony *cough* and a lot more of the recievers getting injuried, when is a reciever a 'defenceless player'? I saw an example of this yesterday when a reciever from the Tornadoes get mangled by TC after the ball had flown over his head and he stopped. a second later Tony decided to teach him a lesson for stopping. The refs threw the flags but after a lengthy discussion waived it off.
Same sort of play happened with the firebirds when they had a reciever crossing the middle and Tino warned him not to by putting his helmet through the back of the recievers spine even though the ball sailed over their heads. This time the refs didnt flag it at all.
Neither of these two safties are looking for the ball...ever. Both recievers have eyes for the ball and both safties only had eyes for the hit. So when is a player defenceless?
Answers to range from: a) Just teach you receivers to handle it better. b) In 10 years playing I've never sen a really serious injury from this. c) The rules allow it so stop whining. d) The rules don't allow it but we'll never call it anyway. ......lol :fishing:
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By Bullrush - 12/09/2011 12:21:55 AM
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Lemonaide (11/09/2011)
Now that we have more safeties that are not looking for the ball and are just going for the big hit *cough* Tino and Tony *cough* and a lot more of the recievers getting injuried, when is a reciever a 'defenceless player'? I saw an example of this yesterday when a reciever from the Tornadoes get mangled by TC after the ball had flown over his head and he stopped. a second later Tony decided to teach him a lesson for stopping. The refs threw the flags but after a lengthy discussion waived it off.
Same sort of play happened with the firebirds when they had a reciever crossing the middle and Tino warned him not to by putting his helmet through the back of the recievers spine even though the ball sailed over their heads. This time the refs didnt flag it at all.
Neither of these two safties are looking for the ball...ever. Both recievers have eyes for the ball and both safties only had eyes for the hit. So when is a player defenceless?
Answers to range from: a) Just teach you receivers to handle it better. b) In 10 years playing I've never sen a really serious injury from this. c) The rules allow it so stop whining. d) The rules don't allow it but we'll never call it anyway. ......lol :fishing:
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By Bullrush - 12/09/2011 3:39:11 AM
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Lemonaide (11/09/2011)Pot calling the kettle black maybe?! Aren't you the one that bitched about cut blocking for the past week. The fact is that a player is looking at the ball (similar to a kick returner) should have SOME protection when the ball goes over his head. He cant see the safety coming in like a steamtrain head down, bum up ready for the hit. You at least being cut block can see who it taking out your legs. Coach Old (11/09/2011)
I'm sorry, are you talking about the same Tino that holds the equal all-time League record for interceptions? The same Tino who got another interception yesterday? Yes I am talking about the same Tino that goes for more hits than intercepts. Where exactly do you base your statistics? He didn't even make the category leaders for intercepts for 2010!? Are you also saying that he doesn't go for the big hit when players come across the deep middle? I'm sure there are plenty of receivers around the league that would disagree. **Someone from your own team you fuckn kettle** would be one wondering the same thing when his team just dug a hole to bury his remains after a Tino big hit instead of an intercept. 85 from the Firebirds would be another to join the list where Tino has decided the hit was worth more than going for the ball. I don't care about the physicality of the game and unlike others (I'm looking at you Bullrush) I don't want to take that out of the game and bubblewrap all the players. Receivers should know that across the middle is dangerous area to play in. I'm just asking that surely some of these receivers should be protected downfield when they are no longer in the play because the ball has gone sailing over their head.
You obviously missed the fact that my comment was made with tongue firmly in-cheek - or purposely ignored it - but if you think for even a second that I want to bubblewrap players then you might be looking at me but you obviously haven't been watching me. The lack of physicality in diving at my knees is a big part of why it pisses me off. It's actually a way to take the physicality out of the confrontation so don't ever fucken equate me with a desire to tone down the physical combative nature of the game again. And unless you have spoken to Whoopie (that's what 'M Radisich's' friends and teammates call him) about what he was wondering after that hit and have obtained his express permission to share it publicly please delete your comments pertaining to it as you otherwise have no fucken idea what he was wondering and therefore shouldn't say shit about it. You can definitely delete any reference to the Wildcats and for future reference, maybe just draw on your own experiences or those of whatever team you're in.
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By Bullrush - 12/09/2011 5:00:01 AM
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chucky (11/09/2011)
Bullrush seriously, time to give up on posting here. You are doing more harm to the Wildcats and the League than good.
At least when other people are posting (fin, Hollywood, redskins etc.) they are debating rather than swearing and carrying on. Maybe you could take some notice of these guys and support the game and your team like they do and work to make it better. Complaining on here isn't achieving anything except putting a massive target on yourself for O linemen.
Chucky....go back and read the posts. The only people I've really jumped the throats of people who were either patronising me or basically ridiculing me. Anyone who made honest attempts to answer the question I responded to in kind. And without wanting to drag the whole thing out, after all those posts, it still doesn't seem clear as to whether the knees are fair game or not. T-ROCKU posted that they weren't but later Redskins said that they were. Does anyone actually know?!?!? When I asked..... "So maybe it's not 'cut blocks' as such but how they're getting executed?To confirm - knees cannot be targeted and it should be done from front on?
....no-one actually actually replied. The answers I got were "You should play something else" or "You probably got a sore night from saturday night's activities" or "Let me Google that for you". If you don't like what I post then feel free to not read it.
You don't make posts about people ridiculing me and my position and if someone is making a personal attack on me then you may find I'll carry on for a little bit. I couldn't care less if you don't like it.
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By Bullrush - 12/09/2011 6:53:47 AM
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Lemonaide (11/09/2011)
@ Bullrush,If you don't want me to discuss M Radisich (or Whoopie) then fine. Just using it as an example as of possibly safety issue for your players as well as other players. If you dont want anyone to reference the wildcats in any discussion that could help your team then your choice! Not going to remove my comments though. To answer your question - which I believe others have done numerous times just you keep wanting to argue about it! The legal term is "blocking below the waist" there is NOTHING in the rulebook about blocking at knee or attacking the knees. And last time I did biology the knee IS below the waist! So if you're in a position to block below the waist - including the knees - then it is legal. UNLESS someone attacks high at the same time in the high/low combination then that is chop blocking and illegal. Its a pretty simple concept and one that should now be put to bed. 
My last word on this.On page 11 of this thread, T-ROCKU says:
Jump in on the cut block discussion, because it would appear many are uninformed of how to do a legal cut block. The initial contact has to be above the knee, anything below the knee is illegal, and will not work unless the defensive lineman is a real penetrator who plays high. The block starts at the midlle thigh, with the player using their shoulder not their helmet (that would be a spear) and then the player can move down, thus the knee injury risk is not as high as thought, a properly exceuted cut block is a low risk block unless some tool try's to jump you, and the injury risk to the player performing the block is reduced. It is not an easy block to master and those that think you just dive at a guys legs are sadly uninformed, and that sort of block should be flagged, as that is high risk to the player perfiorming the block and the player recieving the block. making a legal block illegal in our game is a mistake, instead players should be coached to block correctly, if you don't allow the block how do you expect a centre to block a playside 3-tech when you pull your playside gaurd, you can't simple, why should we limit what our offence can do because we coaches don't know how to teach the correct technique.
to which I then asked the question:
So maybe it's not 'cut blocks' as such but how they're getting executed? To confirm - knees cannot be targeted and it should be done from front on?
T-ROCKU replies:
to answere your question thats right don't target knees and the block should be with the body in front but coming across, like you would in tackling technique. You need to be in front tof the player or if he doesnt penetrate hard then you are left missing the block and the defender can make a play, if you are in front even though you may be on the ground he at least has to go around you
The comments thereafter are ones like:
Playing with yourself for ten years doesn't count. [/quote]
[quote]If your knees were the only thing sore after a game of football then I suggest you weren't playing hard enough or perhaps it was your saturday night 'activities' that gave you sore knees.
Bullrush, if you don't like cutting, don't play the sport. End of story.
Bullrush - if you are as good as you say you are, learn the way to beat a cut block and watch your stat count explode (or alternatively, dont .. and keep whining about it and your sore knees).
It's not until page 14 that HailToTheRedskins makes his post about saying that there is nothing in the rulebook to suggest that targeting the knees is illegal. And makes no personal comments about me and my ability. 3 pages without anyone (apart from T-ROCKU) actually addressing the issue I directly asked about. Instead, people chose to make remarks about me. I don't care if they do because I'm big enough and ugly to take care of myself but for you and Chucky to now suggest that I just wanted to argue about it is plain wrong.
And note - after I replied to Redskins post (no agruing. I disagreed with a comment he made but not his ruling) I haven't raised it since. But whether he is right or T-ROCKU is right - I still don't really know.
Sorry to take you on a history lesson, so to speak, but why it seems OK for people to make patronising and demeaning remarks to and about me but I shouldn't reply in kind is strange.
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By Bullrush - 12/09/2011 8:04:45 PM
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Not only do I need cardio but Tim MacArthur come over to me in the 2nd quarter and said
"Bro, I think I know why our run game is breaking down.....you're slow."
Step-up Benny Flynn. This guy will be a great running back over the next few seasons.
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By Bullrush - 8/09/2011 10:38:27 AM
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observer (7/09/2011)
Blocking below the waist, lets get the terminology right. NCAA 2011 - 2012 Rulebook http://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/FR12.pdfBlock below the waist, page FR-28 - "Below Waist ARTICLE 2. a. A block below the waist is a block in which the force of the initial contact is below the waist of an opponent who has one or both feet on the ground. When in question, the contact is below the waist (Rule 9-1-6). b. A blocker who makes contact above the waist and then slides below the waist has not blocked below the waist. If the blocker first contacts the opposing player’s hands at the waist or above, it is a legal “above the waist’’ block (Rule 9-1-6)." Ref to page FR-84 for the legalities behind it and when a block below the waist is and isnt illegal. Essentially only lineman/running backs/line backers can cut, and only if they start the play in a restricted area and only if the block is either north/south OR when the blocker is between the ball carrier and blocking towards the side line (ie. towards the NEAREST sideline, or an inside out direction). Any contact made BELOW the waist in these situations is legal, so anything below the waist is legal (even if contact is made at the knees/shins/ankles). Chop block, page FR-28 Chop Block ARTICLE 3. A chop block is a high-low or low-high combination block by any two players against an opponent (not the ball carrier) anywhere on the field, with or without a delay between blocks; the “low” component is at the opponent’s thigh or below (A.R. 9-1-10-I-V). Ref to page FR-85, you cannot have any combination of a high-low or low-high block at anytime. However a high-high or low-low combination IS legal. You make reference to the term "spear tackle" no idea what you are referring to. Are you referring to "leading with the crown of the helmet" (formerly spearing)? Or are you referring to the rugby definition of a tackle that goes past the horizontal? As they both have different rulings. Targeting/Leading with the helmet (page FR-83) is illegal at all times, this rule was bought in to protect the offender (the player leading with the helmet) as neck injuries occur when making contact with your head down. This was NOT to protect the player who was getting hit/blocked. "Spear tackle" or tackle going beyond the horizontal, IS a legal tackle. There is no reference at all in the NCAA rulebook at all to this, the only reference to "tackling" is on page FR36, which simply states "Tackling is grasping or encircling an opponent with a hand(s) or arm(s)." The term "spear tackle" it is a term that is used by the rugby codes to define this kind of tackle, and isnt used in American Football. It is also similar to the fact that taking out a WR's/RB's/DB's'LB's legs whilst they are airbourne catching a ball IS legal, there are many videos you can watch on youtube. For a sport that has been around for over a century, I am pretty certain the NCAA rules committee know by now what is "safe" and what isnt. Rules are changed, and emphasis is given on safety issues that o\arise each year (every rule is reviewed every year). So if it wasnt safe to do something, they would quickly make it illegal. Educate yourself on the rules before you start making something up to try and get your point across. Use the correct terms and people may understand what your talking about. Why do we not wear leather helmets? Simple answer, safety gear was developed AROUND the rules, the rules werent adjusted around the equipment. When something was determined to be unsafe, they have tried to improve/implement equipment to protect yourself and if that failed they have changed the rules. And on that thought, what is there to prevent your thighs/hips/knees from sustaining impact injuries? You know, those things in your pants that some of us dont want to wear. But probably the best protection at all, is to train and learn how to defeat the block successfully, a player will usually only allow himself to be cut once or twice before he is wise to it and will protect himself and shed the block successfully. If you dont know how to defend the block, ask your coach, or ask any coach in the league and they can tell you. And we all know, a badly executed "block below the waist" is a VERY easy block to defend against.
1. I thought I'd made it pretty clear that I don't care about being 'cut' as defined by T-ROCKU but rather the deliberate targeting of the knees. Simple question - is it illegal to target the D-Line's knees? If it is, throw the f**kn flag. 2. Pads. Personally, I don't like wearing hip and tail pads. Haven't worn them since I started playing and it's never been a problem (apparently if you don't see any injuries from doing something after about 10 years then there isn't a problem). Not sure how much protection my knee pads are supposed to provide against 100kgs+ of O-Line man trying to take them out. 3. If you have no idea what I'm talking about when I use the term 'spear tackle' then you would have been absolutely clueless reading this forum last year. And while I don't doubt that the rule is more about the safety guy actually performing the tackle, why is it that it's always the team of the guy receiving the tackle that is the most upset? Are they that concerned about the opposition? How chivalrous of them. 4. Thanks for explaining why we don't wear leather helmets anymore. I was at a real loss to understand why they changed that. 5. To quote you: "For a sport that has been around for over a century, I am pretty certain the NCAA rules committee know by now what is "safe" and what isnt. Rules are changed, and emphasis is given on safety issues that o\arise each year (every rule is reviewed every year). So if it wasnt safe to do something, they would quickly make it illegal." WTF?!?!?! You must be more certain of the committee than it is of iself. I mean, I know I play on the line and linemen and brains don't mix BUT if after a century the NCAA rules committee ' know by now what is "safe" and what isn't'....why would they need to review every rule every year? That seems like a momentous waste of time. Like...a whole century. Oh hang on....here's why it doesn't make any sense..... cos you're wrong. Even up to 2011 they still actually didn't 'know by now'. Man, they really moved quickly to make that one illegal huh?! PROP approves football rules changes for 2011 By Greg Johnson NCAA.org The Playing Rules Oversight Panel approved changes in football to better manage blocking below the waist and enhance player safety for the upcoming 2011 season. The panel, which met via conference call Thursday, agreed with NCAA Football Rules Committee recommendations that attempt to eliminate unsuspecting players from absorbing low blocks. The rules committee made its recommendations in February. All rules changes proposed by NCAA playing-rules committees must be approved by the Playing Rules Oversight Panel before being implemented.Beginning this coming season, blocking below the waist will be illegal except on scrimmage plays in the following instances:Wide receivers more than seven yards from the center at the snap of the ball can block below the waist only against a player facing him or toward the nearest sideline.Running backs/receivers in the backfield and outside the tackle box (the area five yards on either side of the center) or players in motion can block below the waist only on players facing them or toward the nearest sideline.Players on the line of scrimmage within seven yards of the center are still allowed to block below the waist anywhere on the field.Previously, officials had to determine where a player started at the snap or, in the case of wide receivers, how far down the field the receiver was to determine whether the block below the waist was legal. Educate yourself before you start trying sound like the fucken John Madden of The Bear. If you don't understand the terms I'm using, I'm happy to role play it with you.....
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By Bullrush - 8/09/2011 11:00:00 AM
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HailToTheRedskins (8/09/2011)
To clarify cut blocking – in the rule book it is defined as “blocking below the waist”. For example, “blocking below the waist” is not allowed on special team plays or change of possession plays (like an intercept return – once intercepted, all blocks must stay above the waist).
In terms of making initial contact at the knees or below, well, it is allowed. At no point does the rule book say “blocking below the waist” is “blocking below the waist but above the knees”. Now, if you use your helmet to target someone’s knees, like you duck your head and the first point of contact is your helmet on their knees, then that’s a flag for leading with the helmet (the old spearing call).
The biggest contributing factor for a successful cut block is momentum. It’s no use cutting a relatively stationary, gap-plugging defensive linemen as you just become a heavy tackle bag to step over. Watch the NFL and look at how often a genuine 3-4 nose tackle like Vince Woolfork or Casey Hampton gets cut – never (except on goaline – that’s a different story because you’re charging to plug gaps). It’s the off-the-corner DEs, 3-technique tackles and reckless blitzing LBs (see Kawika Mitchell as an example) you see get cut on a regular basis. You use a cut block on a hard-charging linemen because like how a wave breaks when entering shallow water, you need the energy (momentum) going over the top of the cut to get the defender on the ground.
There are a few reasons why players are (or should be) coached to aim a cut block at the thigh pad. Firstly it gives the blocker more control over the block – if the defender realises the cut is coming and uses his hands and feet to avoid it, the blocker is in a strong enough position to stay off the ground and attempt to drive through the defender and still execute some sort of block. Secondly, it gives a greater margin for error. If you go low and don’t time it right, you end up eating grass and not getting anything, or you get a concussion from copping a knee in the side of the head.
The only situation where a cut block aimed below the knees gets dangerous is if the person being cut has their feet stuck in the ground. If you’re a D-lineman not moving your feet, then what the hell are you doing? All linemen – including 3-4 gap pluggers – should be constantly moving their feet.
Chop blocking (high-low), now that is dangerous as hell. Hence why it is illegal and the recipient of a 15-yard penalty (and fines in the NFL). It's been banned for the 20 years I've been following football. I remember a spate of chop-block injuries in the NFL about 1991, which led to debate about banning it or increasing fines for it. Happy to be corrected, but I remember something in a Football Digest magazine from 1991 about it.
As for the Tom Bass quote about cut blocks in youth football increasing the incidence and severity of knee injuries, that’s a fair point for junior football. A lack of experience and strength around the joints would mean a cut block gone wrong could be catastrophic, so junior leagues can adjust their rules accordingly. But you can’t compare that example to when it’s being played by men.
This is the same for other sports – rugby union has rules to de-power scrums at the youth level. As a practical example, I’ve been playing rugby as a prop and hooker since I was 15, and I still play fourth grade now. Through high school, we played under 19s laws for the scrums, where you couldn’t push more than 1m (or maybe 1.5m...) off the mark, couldn’t twist a scrum and crotch-binding was not allowed. When I moved to Canberra for Uni, the ACTRU Colts comp played under open rules, meaning you could shunt and twist to your heart’s content, while crotch binding made a massive difference in the power coming through the front row. It took me six months to get used to it. If we played under those open-age rules in under 19s, I could definitely see where someone would have been seriously injured in a scrum.
This is a similar situation to cut blocking – could definitely contribute to injuries in teens and pre-teens, but once you hit open-age competition, you should have the joint-strength and playing ability to deal with it, or learn how to deal with it.
Queensland used to ban blocking below the waist - they don't now. I've been around this league since 1998 and a couple of times people have canvassed trying to ban cut blocking. During one of these discussions in about 2006, I think the league asked for people to submit evidence of people being injured because of cut blocking. No one came forward to say "So-and-so" was definitely injured with a cut block. Putting my mind to it for two minutes, I know at least six people in ACT Gridiron (mainly from my team) who have broken bones in their legs or suffered knee injuries from being tackled as ballcarriers or being caught in a bad position while making an open-field tackle over the last couple of years (Jeremy Milne, Ben Collett, Jonathan McLinden, Jono McCaskill, Dan Baker and Ashley Golding), but I cannot recall one person anywhere in the league suffering a similar injury because of a cut block.
Thanks for actually answering the question Redskins. A couple of things though: 1. I don't agree that the only time a cut block below the knees is dangerous is when the D-Line is not moving their feet. 2. They may de-power the scrums in Junior levels here in Aussie but I don't think they do in other countries. I'm pretty sure we don't in NZ - or at least, not to the extent they do here. No real bearing on cut blocks but it may explain why the wallaby scrum is so shit There has only been a few replies that have actually thoughtfully replied to an honest question and/or seem to know what is and isn't illegal. Feel free to try and take shots at me anytime though..... I'm not trying to end the discussion in any way here but at this stage I'll say thanks to those of you who haven't taken those shots.......if you have, feel free to introduce yourself before we play......I'm Bullrush - Gungahlin Wildcats #22.
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By Bullrush - 8/09/2011 8:41:20 PM
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While I don't disagree with Hollywood, the game itself calls for passionate people and men who want to fight tooth and nail for every yard they can get. Gridiron (and most contact sports like rugby, league etc) lends itself to a primal, machoistic, physical, testosterone-driven instinct - something that is not generally approved of in the day-to-day lives for most of us participants, generally speaking.
At the end of the day, so long as you can still shake hands with everyone and know that 99% of what happens on the field, stays on the field....that's pretty cool in my books.
Again though, I do agree with Hollywood - there needs to be an awareness and consideration given to our spectators as well.
But let's not lose the passion
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By Bullrush - 9/09/2011 10:49:46 PM
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You didn't pick any winners Chimp?
I'll have a crack
Game 1: Wildacts...obviously. I'm a little biased. Hopefully we keep getting better on both sides of the ball.
Game 2: Tornadoes. If Tuggers can contain the QB scrambles, the Astros will struggle to score. The Nadoes D is up to that challenge I reckon.
Game 3: Tough one. Contain the Firebirds running game and you'll have gone a long way to winning the battle. We did it in patches but then got ripped up, in the 3rd Quarter particularly. I'll go Gladiators in a close one.
See y'all tomorrow!!
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By Bullrush - 9/09/2011 11:27:40 PM
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Hail to the Chimp (9/09/2011)
Bullrush The day I start picking winners will be the day the lynch mob finally decides its time to string me up. Anytime I decide to tip a team it is the godzilla of all kiss of death curses. I could tip New Zealand to beat the ficitional late entry country of Wimponia in the World Cup, where every player on the Wimponia team is 5ft, have no muscle what so ever and are all blind and then by me giving my hot tip, Wimponia would not only go on to beat New Zealand by around 50pts, but every key playmaker of the Kiwi squad will also get injured and miss the rest of the cup. That is how good my tips are BUT!!!!, Everyone please feel free to come on and tip which teams you think will win on the weekend and by how much. It's good to get a discussion going on what people think other teams chances are and hats off to Sean for admitting some bias in favour of his team, nothing wrong with that. Cheers Chimp
Please tell me you're a Wallaby fan then!! LOL
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By Bullrush - 10/09/2011 3:07:06 AM
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To James Everdell & Matt Chrzczonowicz
I have the balls to say what I think out in the open where anyone can take shots at me and rubbish me etc. Most guys here know who I am.
If you guys wanna talk shit about me, feel free to do it to my face.
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By Bullrush - 8/09/2011 2:36:54 AM
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"you can't change the game"....bullshit. Do you still wear a leather 'helmet'?
Is it impossible to do both at the same time?
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By Bullrush - 8/09/2011 2:56:55 AM
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sonicboom (7/09/2011)
Bullrush (7/09/2011)
Ryan (7/09/2011)
Bullrush (7/09/2011)
sonicboom (6/09/2011)
Very well said. If your that worried about getting an injury from a cut block then I fear you are playing the wrong sport. I've been playing for around 10 years now and have never seen a cut blocking injury.I've been playing about 10 years as well and I've never seen a spear tackle injury. (And I have seen spear tackles) Let's go back to those. Just last week a RB was speared in the back and cracked 2 ribs. Most likley done for the season. And I've got a sore and swollen knee from the "cut blocks" I got on Saturday. Should we wait till someone is gone for the season till we act against it? Or for two people. Or maybe wait till someone is screwed for life!! Does anyone really dispute the potential risks and danger there is at diving at the oppositions knees? Im not saying there are no risks, but it is far from the riskiest play on a football field. I have no doubt that injuries do happen from cut blocking but if we are going to legislate against that then where does it end? As has been mentioned previously, learn the correct techniques to beat it and you wont have 'sore and swollen' knees. If your knees were the only thing sore after a game of football then I suggest you weren't playing hard enough or perhaps it was your saturday night 'activities' that gave you sore knees.
1. If, as T-ROCKU seems to be saying, chopping the knees is illegal, why don't we get flags thrown for it? It's obviously been identified already as reckless or un-sportsman-like or dangerour or whatever....so just throw a flag when it happens.
2. If you ever want to question how hard I play, put on some pads and a helmet and feel free to have a crack at me anytime. I play hard every minute of every game I play. I don't win every encounter but I'll back myself 100% of the time over my opponent and 98% of the time I'm right.
It seems the only viable reason anyone has to allowing others to cut someone else's knees is because they aren't up to physically matching them.
If targeting the knees is illegal, throw the flag. Stop trying to justify it.
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By Bullrush - 8/09/2011 3:00:11 AM
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chucky (7/09/2011)
Bullrush, if you don't like cutting, don't play the sport. End of story.
Chimp, softie wasn't intercepted on, im pretty sure it was Pappas by Mack (Gladiators #1?). Keep up the good work though, enjoy reading the reviews and previews. I am surprised though that you didn't say anything about how quiet Shawn was during their game, I like the rest of the spectators were waiting for the volcano to erupt when they were losing. Was disappointed it never eventuated!
PS. Does anyone know when the statistics will be up?
I wonder how long it was before "if you don't like spear tackles, dont play the sport.End of story" was no longer a viable arguement?
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By Bullrush - 8/09/2011 3:02:31 AM
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Ryan (7/09/2011)
I'm sure he meant YOU can't change the game. You're only one man, give up already saftey nazi!
Obviously doesn't know ME....lol
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By Bullrush - 8/09/2011 3:03:42 AM
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Fatz (7/09/2011)
Im sure I saw this argument last year with spearing
Did it work? 
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By Bullrush - 8/09/2011 3:07:28 AM
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Fatz (7/09/2011)
Im sure I saw this argument last year with spearing
Hey Fatz - you posted last year that you hoped the Wildcats didn't improve too much against your team. I don't who you are or who your team is but I hope we disappoint you this season
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By Bullrush - 7/09/2011 2:07:39 AM
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Ryan (6/09/2011)
Bullrush (6/09/2011)
So we woudn't want youth players to do it "because a cut block lends itself to an increase and severity in knee injuries" but it's OK to do it when you're bigger, stronger and probably heavier??
Errrr....right. And no disrespect but I would consider the ACTG probably closer in quality to the youth competitions in the States than the NCAA or NFL.
Yes, you can get injured doing any number of things in football but again "a cut block lends itself to an increase and severity in knee injuries"
Probably similiar reasons why we banned spear tackles.....
And, Yes. If you do something that lends itself to me getting a severe injury because I am bigger or faster or you have poor technique and therefore you succumb to the temptation to attack a fairly vulnerable body part - I will pick that thing out. Yes, many things in life have seperate rules for adults and children. Cut blocking only leads to an increase and severity of knee injures when you compare it to what?. If you compare it to tackling the ball carrier then it's not so bad. Ball carriers get hit by many guys from multiple directions all at once. Their hands are tied up trying to hold on to the ball. Their potential for injury is great for both the ball carrier and every player involved in the tackle. Yet we still tackle. You get hit by 1 guy from the front and your hands are free to protect yourself. Your potential for injury is actual lower than if you made the tackle. Yet this must be banned!!! If you are worried about being cut than keep your hands down. Adjust the way you play to avoid injury. It's that simple.
1. You obviously missed the point about youth and adults.
2. Cut blocks lead to increase and severity of knee injuries when compared to..........drum roll please........any other block that doesn't target the knees! You know, like blocking the body.
3. I'm actually a ball carrier more than anything else and I have never had such deliberate targeting of my knees like I have at D-Line. And obviously when you're carrying the ball, you usually have a lot more time and space to react. You can also brace yourself for impact and even look to inflict some pain yourself. Having your hands free has very little to do with it (google Jonah Lomu). Much different to having a guy dive straight at you from a few inches away. And not always from the front.
4. If an O-Lineman can dive for my knees, I should be allowed to kick him in the f**kn nuts. His hands are free to protect himself.
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By Bullrush - 7/09/2011 2:23:23 AM
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milehigh (6/09/2011)
Bullrush (6/09/2011)
So we woudn't want youth players to do it "because a cut block lends itself to an increase and severity in knee injuries" but it's OK to do it when you're bigger, stronger and probably heavier??
Errrr....right. And no disrespect but I would consider the ACTG probably closer in quality to the youth competitions in the States than the NCAA or NFL.
Yes, you can get injured doing any number of things in football but again "a cut block lends itself to an increase and severity in knee injuries"
Probably similiar reasons why we banned spear tackles.....
And, Yes. If you do something that lends itself to me getting a severe injury because I am bigger or faster or you have poor technique and therefore you succumb to the temptation to attack a fairly vulnerable body part - I will pick that thing out. Surely if your technique is better you will not be effectively cut? I understand the argument, but its already only allowed strictly by players within the tackle box and not at all on special teams. I feel that is a sufficient safeguard. I do think maybe chop blocking should be examined closely for repeat offenders. Even this year there are some people who seem to be repeat offenders. Maybe a one game ban after 3-5 chop blocks? Too extreme...maybe. I have seen numerous people try to cut some of the best DL in this league over the years and they usually fail. Why, because they have a well rounded game and can beat it. Cameron is a good example of this. Yeah....I'm pretty new to D-Line so I'll get better at beating it but I just think it's got the potential to really screw someone up and having someone want to risk that on me has pissed me right off. I think it's outside the spirit of the game TBH.
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By Bullrush - 7/09/2011 8:44:53 PM
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T-ROCKU (7/09/2011)
Jump in on the cut block discussion, because it would appear many are uninformed of how to do a legal cut block. The initial contact has to be above the knee, anything below the knee is illegal, and will not work unless the defensive lineman is a real penetrator who plays high. The block starts at the midlle thigh, with the player using their shoulder not their helmet (that would be a spear) and then the player can move down, thus the knee injury risk is not as high as thought, a properly exceuted cut block is a low risk block unless some tool try's to jump you, and the injury risk to the player performing the block is reduced.
It is not an easy block to master and those that think you just dive at a guys legs are sadly uninformed, and that sort of block should be flagged, as that is high risk to the player perfiorming the block and the player recieving the block. making a legal block illegal in our game is a mistake, instead players should be coached to block correctly, if you don't allow the block how do you expect a centre to block a playside 3-tech when you pull your playside gaurd, you can't simple, why should we limit what our offence can do because we coaches don't know how to teach the correct technique.
Will you ban driving your hands onto a players hips as they try to swim you as well because it also puts a lot of pressure on the defenders kneeand effectively cuts there legs out???
So maybe it's not 'cut blocks' as such but how they're getting executed?
To confirm - knees cannot be targeted and it should be done from front on?
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By Bullrush - 8/09/2011 1:34:39 AM
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sonicboom (6/09/2011)
Very well said. If your that worried about getting an injury from a cut block then I fear you are playing the wrong sport. I've been playing for around 10 years now and have never seen a cut blocking injury.
I've been playing about 10 years as well and I've never seen a spear tackle injury. (And I have seen spear tackles) Let's go back to those.
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By Bullrush - 8/09/2011 2:09:20 AM
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sonicboom (7/09/2011)
Bullrush (7/09/2011)
sonicboom (6/09/2011)
Very well said. If your that worried about getting an injury from a cut block then I fear you are playing the wrong sport. I've been playing for around 10 years now and have never seen a cut blocking injury.I've been playing about 10 years as well and I've never seen a spear tackle injury. (And I have seen spear tackles) Let's go back to those. Playing with yourself for ten years doesn't count. You couldn't of been watching too hard if you havent seen anyone injured from a spear tackle.
Playing with myself would probably be 10 times harder than playing against some guys around here.
I've been watching closely enough - there just hasn't been any inuries. The point (which you obviously either missed or want to deny) is just because you haven't seen it, doesn't mean it hasn't happened. Definitely doesn't mean the risk isn't there either.
I suppose in your 10 years though you've seen every single gridiron play that has happened making you the final authority on the matter?
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By Bullrush - 8/09/2011 2:14:26 AM
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Ryan (7/09/2011)
Bullrush (7/09/2011)
sonicboom (6/09/2011)
Very well said. If your that worried about getting an injury from a cut block then I fear you are playing the wrong sport. I've been playing for around 10 years now and have never seen a cut blocking injury.I've been playing about 10 years as well and I've never seen a spear tackle injury. (And I have seen spear tackles) Let's go back to those. Just last week a RB was speared in the back and cracked 2 ribs. Most likley done for the season.
And I've got a sore and swollen knee from the "cut blocks" I got on Saturday. Should we wait till someone is gone for the season till we act against it? Or for two people. Or maybe wait till someone is screwed for life!!
Does anyone really dispute the potential risks and danger there is at diving at the oppositions knees?
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By Bullrush - 6/09/2011 11:07:21 PM
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Hmmm (6/09/2011)
Wasn't an insult and should've put a smiley or lol at the end - was meant to be a joke...and I was referring to all lineman either side of the ball... You seem to think that I play O-line which is not right, I play D-line (sporadically and not very well I might add!) I understand the risks involved however, if it was a massive problem - (and I don't know if or how many guys have had injuries resultant from the cut block in the act league) surely it would've been addressed? Or just banned outright in the entire game???
Sorry - I obviously missed your humour there.
I actually had no thought as to where you played or even if you played at all.
On the risks however....do we wait for something to become a 'massive problem' before we address it? Surely there is enough documented and anecdotal evidence to prove the increase of rick of injury with this technique to not have to wait for someone or some people to actually get seriously injured?
And to the Chimp - I understand your arguement regarding squad numbers and players perhaps not playing their prefered position however, I refer to the statement I posted earlier from Tom Bass:
"I realize the temptation will always be there to teach the cut block if your offensive linemen are smaller than the defensive players or if your linemen have the tendency to stand straight up, but I hope you will not succumb to this temptation.
Instead of using a cut, block you might consider using angle, cross, trap or combination block to overcome a size mismatch."
The game itself already gives the O-Line some advantages over the D-Line. The challenge is up to he coaches and player to make the most of those without resorting to (if refraining from using words I'd really like to here) blatant cutting.
Finally Chimp - I wish I was good enough to play NCAA....lol
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By Bullrush - 6/09/2011 11:22:29 PM
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Ginger (6/09/2011)
Before anyone comments any further they should watch this comprehensive video on 'blocking below the waist' which is the legal definition of cut blocking according to the rules of NCAA. Cut blocking is not to be confused with Chop blocking where any offensive player who makes a high block, which is also accompanied by a low block at the thigh or below, regardless of the order. About 95 percent of chop blocks occur on the interior line immediately when the ball is snapped. These are two separate types of blocks. One -blocking below the waist or cut blocks ->is legal (with parameters) the other - chop blocks -> are illegal. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOppOpJBN44In my opinion (my 2 cents) blocking below the waist should NOT be banned. Its a part of the sport and sometimes a necessary tool for offensive linemen. If you don’t want contact, go play hopscotch. As far as i know, blocking below the waist is not banned at national level and this cause issues with juniors several years ago where the coaches hadnt taught it at all (including how to defend against the cut block). Its the bad coaching and the inexperienced player that causes bad technique and will lead to injuries not the block itself. If done correctly, most players should land flat on their face taken out of the play completely unharmed.
Can't watch the video at work but I have no problem with blocks below the waist eg. thighs. I object to knees and below being targeted.
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By Bullrush - 6/09/2011 11:28:25 PM
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wally (6/09/2011)
I don't think it should be band it is an effective and legal block. We had some rookies on the weekend who experienced a cut block during a game for the first time, they came back telling us they didn't actually think people would do it to them. As we had taught them how to defend against the cut block they were able to defeat it. My point is if your players know how to beat/protect against the cut block then there is no reason to ban it
I don't object to that either but I highly doubt I would buy any of their albums. Or go to any concerts.
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By Bullrush - 7/09/2011 12:52:05 AM
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So we woudn't want youth players to do it "because a cut block lends itself to an increase and severity in knee injuries" but it's OK to do it when you're bigger, stronger and probably heavier??
Errrr....right. And no disrespect but I would consider the ACTG probably closer in quality to the youth competitions in the States than the NCAA or NFL.
Yes, you can get injured doing any number of things in football but again "a cut block lends itself to an increase and severity in knee injuries"
Probably similiar reasons why we banned spear tackles.....
And, Yes. If you do something that lends itself to me getting a severe injury because I am bigger or faster or you have poor technique and therefore you succumb to the temptation to attack a fairly vulnerable body part - I will pick that thing out.
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By Bullrush - 7/09/2011 1:08:12 AM
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wally (6/09/2011)
@ Bullrush, Sorry mate that was sent from my iPhone so it got auto corrected. Anyway if all you can do is pick out someone's typo you're argument really doesn't have any legs to stand on Sorry - I couldn't resist.
Is your answer to the points that I made something along the lines of 'my rookies were able to defend against it this week'? Is that your arguement?
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By Bullrush - 7/09/2011 1:55:19 AM
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Coach Hollywood (6/09/2011)
Totally see your point Sean on cut blocking - but while anything is in the rules - I'll use it to full advantage.
Great example was last year against Uni - Siaosi was getting cut all day (and if I were Uni - I would have done it all day to him too) It was his fault for thinking DLine, do and can always go forward at the snap .... once A) as a coach we did our job coaching him about what it is - how it's done - why its done and when its done B) Told him that you don't always need to cross the LOS to make a play - 2 yard gain for the O is still a loss - % says their still punting on fourthhe became a better player - an O lineman lying on his belly on the ground is a useless player.
I know a heap of teams that only cut on the backside of the play (to stop pursuit)
I totally agree with no blocking below the waist on special teams - doing that on a player who has a 30 yard full speed run up is disaster - as we saw in 2009 NSW vs WA Juniors - That poor WA kid who got blocked on the opening kick off illegally - well I think he had a year of rehab before walking full again.
Tom Bass - well thats his opinion - one coaches ...be interesting to do a national poll in the pro's and college to see what they think.Could ask Coach Paul Manera - he goes across regularly to the AFCA convention and talks to the college and pro coaches or even Coach John L with regards to the europe leagues.
My priority is safety first - people know this ... and as said before - if it's in the rules, I'll use it. NCAA rule makers have time, money and research - so if they think it's ok - i'm fine with that - its then my job to coach the players the pros and cons of it. They made quite a few changes this year - more than I've seen in a while so who knows it might be on the cards - counter point : how many injuries do we have to have before they (the powers) consider it dangerous - but, as said before I see your point.
Good discussion.Cheers Hollywood.
Thanks for the input. I understand it's in the rules etc......but spear tackling used to be in the rules as well.
Anyway, I don't believe we teach any of our guys to cut ('do unto others as you would have them do unto you' and all that 'moral' stuff I can't seem to shake ) and I'm personally opposed to it because I see the tactic as a cheap shot in a game that is largely about physical domination - whether that's by strength, speed or strategy. While there is some satisfaction in knowing that a guy is struggling to contain you has to resort to this, on the other hand, I really want to retain the ability to run around with my kids when my time playing sports is done. Some may somehow believe that cut-blocks to the knees as part of physical dominance , that's obviously their right. Just as the emporer has a right to believe he has on new clothes.
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By reflex - 3/08/2011 8:56:15 AM
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i hear the wildcats beat the centurions and the astros had some biffos
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By reflex - 20/09/2011 6:10:42 AM
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i hear the university of canberra is going to give one of its ovals to the firebirds, with proper goalposts, this may help with moving the league forward or back a few rounds, or possibly extending it. i think the ovals are used on weekends but there are 4 so they cant all be being used at once, in any case if its a dedicated gridiron field the league may have priority
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By reflex - 21/09/2011 3:25:40 AM
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Butthead73 (20/09/2011)
The only reason the league has never pushed back the start of the season is the Firebirds. It has been proposed every year that I can remember and every year UC would say that they have too many Uni Students and would lose them all before the end of the season. (this should of changed now with UC going to three terms).
If you started on the 8th September next year (three weeks later than normal) and played 10 rounds plus a bye weekend you would finish on the 1st December.
Just food for thought.
But people if you want to make a change and suggest things put it to the committee. Either through your committee or straight to the league. Get involved and help run the sport that we all love.
what happens if uni made the finales during the regular season, but then had to forfeit their semi because all their players went home. it really depends on when your exams are (i go to uc) but you could be finished by mid november to early december, and i cant comment on every uni player, but i assume at least a few have on campus accomodation, and people who live on campus go home during the breaks, because lets face it, who can afford to pay student rent, which i hear is a lot, just to play a few more games of gridiron
you raise a valid point, but if that were the case for the firebirds, why would they even bother entering the comp, knowing if they made the finals there was a chance they wouldnt be able to field a team, the same might also be said about the astroes this year, given they have moved to anu, but i think anu finishes earlier than uc, so maybe they best move would be to just leave the season as is, because really when else can you put it, bullrush is right, if they want to play they will
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By reflex - 22/09/2011 9:20:13 AM
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I have been laughing for about 10 minutes after reading Luke's new nickname
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By reflex - 24/09/2011 9:06:34 AM
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wally (23/09/2011)
To add to this I think the quality of the umpire's need's to improve to make it more spectator friendly. Firstly by cutting out the five minute debates they seem to have every other flag. Ref's should only be throwing a flag when it is necessary for safety or if the foul directly effects the play, NOT when someone is been held 30 yards off the ball and clearly can't make a play at the man with the ball, which is what seems to be happening at the moment. Now before someone get's upset about my comment, I do appreciate the time and effort that guy's like Mitch, Shawn, Ian and yes even Tony put in for us all to be able to play this great game. I just believe that the ref's slow the pace of the game down making it boring too watch from the stands and extremely frustrating as a player. i am a referee, i wont say which one because im sure someone on here has a problem with some decisions ive made firstly refs should be throwing a flag if they see something that is against the rules of the game, no matter how trivial they may seem, being offside by a milimetre is still offside secondly, most refs apart from a select few are volunteers who fill in for a few games a season because of duty, many do it just so the club they play for isnt fined for not supplying refs, as such they are not familiar with the rules, so if they see something they may not be sure if its a penalty, and have to have a chat with the senior refs who do know the rules, so they can determine whether it is a penalty or not thirdly, holding away from the run of the play is not a penalty, and im not sure what the circumstances were but i feel sure you probably misheard or misinterpreted the referee because the senior refs would have waved that off, having said that you may not have, if that is the case id agree it was a shit call fourthly, you are clearly not a ref because otherwise you would not have made these comments, if you want to improve the quality of refereeing go become a ref for the junior season and then step up again for the senior season, instead of whinging on the bear, as is common in this league people are all too happy to have a go at the refs but dont want to have a go at reffing, its hard, sometimes you make bad calls, just like players make bad plays, my pet hate is people saying a ref cost them the game, that is incorrect if the game is so close it comes down to a call going against your team to lose it, really your team hasnt played well enough to win anyway and yes i agree that games are too slow but what is to be done, unless we get a crew of professional referees to speed things up, the league doesnt have that kind of money, in any case the game is a stop start game, thats how its played, and actg cant change that because we use NCAA rules from college, so unless they change nothing can be done
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By reflex - 24/09/2011 9:15:09 AM
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apparently i dont know how to quote properly
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By chucky - 8/09/2011 2:49:12 AM
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Bullrush, if you don't like cutting, don't play the sport. End of story.
Chimp, softie wasn't intercepted on, im pretty sure it was Pappas by Mack (Gladiators #1?). Keep up the good work though, enjoy reading the reviews and previews. I am surprised though that you didn't say anything about how quiet Shawn was during their game, I like the rest of the spectators were waiting for the volcano to erupt when they were losing. Was disappointed it never eventuated!
PS. Does anyone know when the statistics will be up?
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By chucky - 12/09/2011 4:31:54 AM
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Bullrush seriously, time to give up on posting here. You are doing more harm to the Wildcats and the League than good.
At least when other people are posting (fin, Hollywood, redskins etc.) they are debating rather than swearing and carrying on. Maybe you could take some notice of these guys and support the game and your team like they do and work to make it better. Complaining on here isn't achieving anything except putting a massive target on yourself for O linemen.
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By chucky - 12/09/2011 4:41:07 AM
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Great reply Hollywood. Don't think anyone could have put it better.
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By chucky - 10/11/2011 9:34:08 PM
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PhAntOM fLaG (10/11/2011)
ACT ALL STARS TEAM 2011
QB - WC #13 Should be either FB #13 or GL #6
RB - FB #22
FB - WC #22 GL #47
WR - TT #18, GLADS Junior Island/polynesian guy (sorry dont know your no.) GL #25, WC #37
TE - FB #18
LT/RT - GLD #77, TORN #78 #78 is DL. TT #67.
LG/RG - GLD #54, FB #78 GL #61
C - GLD #42 FB #78
DEFENSE
S - GL #21, TT #15
CB - TT #30, CN #31
LB - TT #39, GL #34, FB #44
DL - GL #90, GL #99, GL #48, TT #91,
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By Cents "68" - 26/09/2011 5:12:01 AM
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So.....
What am i supposed to do this Saturdaywith no Football... I will be lost.....
*tears*
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By Flemdog23 - 18/09/2011 11:40:49 PM
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I would like to verify a few things that Jeremy has said. The after game punishments were because of personnel WITHIN the Firebirds club, not because of the margin of win. Therefore I would like any thoughts or opinions of Shawn's reasons for making the Birdies do punishments after the game to be made knowing this fact.
Coach Shawn also asked Coach Pete for permission to do punishments after the game. Shawn let the other coaches and players on the Centurions know after the game that it was in no way reflecting how the Cents played and that the punishment was because of poor attitudes and sloppy decisions made by several players on the Firebirds. Sure, Shawn can be a c#$t, but can you really argue with his results?? Lol
I also would like to thank the Cents for a good game. They certainly put us in our place in a few areas of our game and it is something we will be fixing at training during the week.
On a lighter note, I am enjoying the season this far and I am looking forward to playing the Tornadoes this coming weekend. Congrats to the Nadoes on their win on Saturday and to the Glads for a solid win also! I hope everyone is looking forward to the 2nd half of the season.
Cheers,
Flemdog... McFeltcher.. Whatever you're happiest with Chimp lol
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By Flemdog23 - 19/09/2011 10:22:50 PM
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I can’t believe I’m saying it, but you actually make a compelling argument Bullrush. The Birdies had a few players coming from rugby union and league this year, one of them making their debut on the weekend against the Cents and another made their debut last weekend against the Glads. I also recruited a number of players but they decided not to play due to their league and union commitments.
I feel the problem is that if we did start the season 3-5 weeks later, it would obviously change when we ended the season. I think that most people would be taking holidays around mid December and therefore it would change the numbers in teams regardless.
Another problem arises in the limited knowledge league and union players have of the game. The Birdies usually educate all players during the preseason. So I feel that footballers from other codes may be a step behind other players in this matter. Would any league or union players be interested in skipping one of their trainings a week to attend preseason gridiron training? Maybe not...
I think the minimum amount of games one must play to enter the finals is indeed 4. I think there is also a cut off date for people who wish to play late in the season (this year, I don’t think people could be registered after week 5).
I believe it would be a good idea for the League to start the season at least a couple weeks later to improve numbers, but then again it’s not up for me to decide..
Cheers,
Flemdog
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By Flemdog23 - 26/09/2011 5:08:33 PM
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Great weekend of football with some solid wins by the Glads, Wildcats and the Birdies. Could these be the 3 final teams battling it off for the Championship? Only 5 weeks until we find out..
@ The Chimp: In regards to Sam Babic, he had a dislocated finger and should be fine to play Saturday week. Reuben Kukolic stepped in at centre and had an absolute blinder in place of Sammy! Many may also know that Timmy "I'm 40 and still kicking arse" Silver was injured during our game vs the Tornadoes. Injury is unknown atm, but it's not his acl so hopefully we'll see him back shortly.
@ Lemonaide: I only saw the first half of the Glads Vs Cents, but from what I saw in the first half it was a bit of give and take from both teams. In regards to your comments about the refs being "too lenient" can I just say, officiating is HARD!! It's hard to see EVERYTHING that goes on during a game and it's hard to officiate and throw out players when teams are at each other's throats. Also very hard to throw people out when calls are, as the Chimp said "borderline". It's up to players to keep their heads on and play from whistle to whistle. If there's any stupid penalties being given away from players, I'm sure their coaches wouldn't be very happy (or their fellow players). I mean hey, could you tell Shawn wasn't happy with his players last Saturday?? lol
And just for a final thought, I don't think there have been any players in the past 3 years that have been ejected more than once in a season? Correct me if I'm wrong... I do agree with more than a "smack on the wrist" for players being ejected more than once, but from what I've been told, noone has been tossed more than twice in the season..
Cheers,
Flemdog
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By Flemdog23 - 27/09/2011 8:25:59 AM
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@Shakespeare You mean refs cop shit from the sidelines??... Well, this is unheard of...... lol
@ Ginger It is my understanding that if a player is ejected from a game for FIGHTING more than once in a season, that player faces heavy penalties, which may include suspension for multiple games (says NCAA rules). From memory, Siaosi played all games last year and never faced a judiciary or the league committee so I therefore find it very unlikely that he was ejected twice for fighting... But like I said, I've been wrong before...
Cheers,
Flemdog
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By Flemdog23 - 14/10/2011 10:08:05 AM
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@ SmashMouth
It's my understanding that when the 'trygridiron.com' website was discussed at the last league meeting, only 4 of the 6 teams in the ACT League showed an interest in paying the large amount of money it took to be mentioned on the website.
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By Flemdog23 - 6/11/2011 7:41:10 PM
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No Hollywood, I AM THE CHIMP!!
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By Flemdog23 - 13/11/2011 9:17:52 AM
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What do you call a team that cut blocks??? CHAMPIONS!!!
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By Boobie - 19/08/2011 8:40:10 PM
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Apparently the Astros have a new strip this year. Looking forward to seeing what they have come up with tomorrow.
How good is it that we are back in football season, no more late friday nights... just sitting at home eating carbs, drinking water, studying routes and cuddling the pig skin.... love it!!!
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By Boobie - 8/09/2011 12:16:07 AM
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sonicboom (7/09/2011)
Lemonaide (7/09/2011)
Chimp, Your memory and sight must be getting worse because you must've forgotten to mention or didn't see the massive facemask where a Gladiator player tried to rip off the head of the Tornadoes receiver. Photos by the Tornadoes show it perfectly (wow they are really getting some good photos huh? Who is it that takes their photos and can we get them to take photos of other teams too?): http://www.flickr.com/photos/66453089@N06/6108552487http://www.flickr.com/photos/66453089@N06/6109102962Don’t feel bad though cause the ref standing right next to it missed it as well... Oh and while I’m on it, you might want to check your hearing too because you obviously didnt hear the game changing inadvertent whistle that would have cracked the punt returned open for a wide open field. I say game changing because the Tornadoes drive stalled after that and the Gladiators scored from good field postion. Add a TD to one team and take a TD away from the other and the scoreline would be very different. Sure only two plays out of a whole game, but from the stands it looked like a closer game than the scoreline shows. Considering the Tornadoes failed to score twice deep in the redzone the score could have easily been (at least) 29-37. Or one TD down. So not really the dominance you've suggested. And if the gladiators didn't score all their touchdowns it would of been closer as well . Last time I checked stopping the opposition offence on goal line was pretty dominant. From what I saw the gladiators looked like a much better team, sure both made mistakes but your post includes a lot of "what if's".
Totally agree with sonic, allot of "could of, would of, should of"
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By Boobie - 8/09/2011 12:52:52 AM
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Hail to the Chimp (7/09/2011)
Lemonaide,
I don't think I've ever read a username more appropriate for someone as clearly bitter as you. I'm sorry I didn't put together a second by second, play by play recap of everything that happened on the field but I honestly don't have the time to do this. I didn't mention the 'massive' Gladiator facemask for the same reason I didn't mention the 'massive' Tornadoe Facemask by Softy after he got intercepted for the same reason, because I don't think either player did that intentionally and it was simply a reaction to stop the ball carrier. It's a shame that Jenna didn't get a picture of that but I do agree that she is doing a good job taking pictures of everything else going on in the field.
You've blown your argument out of the water admitting the Tornadoes failed to capitalise twice in the redzone thanks to a solid Gladiator defence so I stand by my comment that the Gladiators put in a dominant performance. I actually have a hell of a lot of respect for Coach JB and Coach Josh as well as a hell of a lot of the players on the Nadoes. Every team loses games and it sucks but if I know players like Cody, Cam, Lyle and many other Nadoes, they are not going to waste their time arguing how they lost but will be focused on winning this weekend instead and maintaing their solid defensive effort and taking full advantage of Dawsons form from last weekend. I'd recommend you actually focus on playing hard for your team next week but you definintely sound like the kind of player who is always looking for excuses and looks to blame other people for your mistakes. Which ever team your on I sincerely pity as from the sounds of your whinging that team is effectively playing with 10 men if you step foot on the field.
Cheers
Chimp
BOOM
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By Geldy - 6/11/2011 11:35:28 AM
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Oops (5/11/2011)
The Chimp...aka daddy...aka.................................Geld..........................your now team dates...hates...sorry mates, should have a look back over the posts since you started commenting on the Glads...I find it real funny that the glads biggest and harshist critic (I am sure thatyou would have been heard by many saying that the comp would be better without the cheating glads...although you seem to have changed your tune...and now the way you play the game just to fit in better...) now plays for them...speaks aces for your personality and respect.
People should really watch what they say...and who to...
Please dont let this stop your posts old chimpy...they are freaken funny and everyone should just take them with a nit from your head (with a grain of salt).
Hi Oops, I've just gotten home from having drinks and read a message saying that I should go on the bear and see your message saying I'm the Chimp. I couldn't give a shit if you think I'm the Chimp or not, this stupidity is beside the point. What I'd like to know is what you mean by I've changed the way I play the game just to fit in better. I haven't changed a thing from my time playing for the Tornadoes to my time playing at the Gladiators. I'll break my body for my club and my mates, doesn't matter if it is the Tornadoes, Gladiators or whoever. I broke my leg in 09 and after the break and some gross stupidity by the hospital developed a clot that nearly cost me my lower right leg and nearly wrote me off from the sport I love permanently. I made the move to the Glads this year and after getting a second clot thought that would be it from the sport in total. I finally got the all clear to play mid-season and have enjoyed every game I've played this year, be it playing a full game or only filling in when I'm needed. If your going to come onto a public forum and say shit about me feel free to drop me a pm we can arrange to meet up in person to sort some sh!t out like men. I'm not wasting my time coming back on this forum Oops but don't ever question my dedication to my club or my teammates. |
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By flamedogger - 25/06/2011 11:05:50 PM
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Comprehensive studys were done at the flamedogger instatute of sport science during each team's preseason training.
These studys factors in the last year standings, returned players, coach's and disruptions to preperation.
The results are:
1. Firebirds
2. Centurions
3. Wildcats
4. Gladiators
5. Tornadoes
6. Canteen Staff
7. Referees
8. Crowd
9. Astros
Bad luck again this year Astros but there good friends the Firebirds come out on top so they can be happy.
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By Iamsosmrt - 26/06/2011 3:49:18 AM
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The half dozen Astros left spent the Jr season in the canteen and they should probably just stay there. I guess the Wildcats can get a couple of wins this year if the Astros can scrape together 15 for games.
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By 4TY - 15/08/2011 10:48:38 PM
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That's to bad Chimp I always looked forward to your pre-views and wrap-ups. Unlike the semi-illiterate who wrote the above pre-view you had a bit of flair and a sense of humour.
Cody
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By 4TY - 16/08/2011 12:37:41 AM
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Niiiiice!
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By JawJacker - 25/07/2011 9:34:06 PM
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Chimp, A few NSW Teams will be travelling to the nations Capital on Saturday to take on some ACT teams. Firebirds play Penrith City Outlaws and Sutherland Seahawks play either Astros or Gladiators (i think)?? It would be good your get your review of the games of the teams involved.
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By JawJacker - 29/07/2011 5:19:17 AM
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Bullrush- Not all players in NSW are weekend warrior pretenders as you infer.
I and many others train our backsides off on the field and off it by hitting the gym, eating healthy etc..to be able participate in this great sport and be prepared for our respective season.
Understanding you wish to not feed the trolls..please do not class us all in the same category.
I personally have all the respect for every single person who is involved in our game across the nation and have the highest of hopes that one day we could be seeing our sport in a national competition for everybody to enjoy and respect.
I hope you make your way out to watch some of the games and appreciate those who leave everything on the field.
Contemplation often makes life miserable. We should act more and think less
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By SmashMouth - 14/10/2011 9:45:08 AM
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Why is it that the trygridiron.com.au website that is currently being advertised on TV during NFL games only mentions 4 of the 6 ACT teams?
Wildcats and Gladiators have been excluded for some strange reason. Maybe ACTG thinks these teams don't need to recruit as much as the others?
Even stranger, the ACT section is the only one that lists teams - the section for every other state links to their state league website.
Anyone got any interesting conspiracy theories behind this?
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By Screw the chimp Hail to godzilla -_- - 15/08/2011 4:23:28 AM
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With the opening round of the 2011 season this coming Weekend here are my round 1 predictions. (sorry if i spell any surnames wrong) Game 1- Gladiators vs centurions Through the rumor mill Glads have picked up Steven *Big ben* Finlay and Warren bezerkler (although word is Bezerklers out for the season with a broken leg.) Haven't confirmed this though. these 2 players are a great addition to the glads, and with there core group of players hanging around. Will again be a strong force this year. Centurions as always have most likely been doing alot of recruiting in the off season, they will have a lot of rookies on the rooster. Question is what can the new head coach Pete *Crocks* lily do with them. I expect a shaky start to the season from these guy, also think that they will finish strong. Verdict- glads for the win Game 2- Firebirds vs Tornadoes (Charity Bowl) Firebirds will be looking to defend the Capital Bowl title this year. They seem a bit short on numbers this year but with Luke (insert surname here) and Jeremy *6 Million dollar man* milne heading the O you can expect some monster runs, with some big score lines. Backed up by a well drilled D they are going to be hard to beat. Tornadoes are looking to defend the Charity Bowl this year. With the loss of Finlay(QB), bezerkler(LB), ben foy(LB), matt moroney(RB/FB), jake mercer(C) and maybe a few more. They have lost the core offensive guys and the 2 best line backers from last year. It will be interesting to see who they bring to the field to fill some big shoes that these players have left behind. Verdict- Firebirds for the win. Game 3- Astros vs Wildcats Astros struggled for numbers at the end of last year, they reportedly resolved this problem by teaming up with the ANU. It wil be interesting to see how many players they get to the first game. Paris Will be playing QB, i didn't get down to the scrimage but word was he took quiet the pounding and lost his cool. Probably not a good way to lead a team of uni students, with there rebellious ways. at least he has jamison gibbs to throw all his passes too. The Wildcats are still looking to win a game. Heard that Tim Macuther might be the new head coach. I haven't confirmed it though. It shall be an interesting year for the wildcats if this is true, not sure if it is what they need to become a competetive team. they should have alot of the guys from last year back and with a bit of experience under there belts, they might have what it takes to get the first win for the club. Verdict- Draw GOOD LUCK TO ALL TEAMS IN THE COMING SEASON.
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By 5VII - 18/08/2011 8:24:05 AM
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any rookies to look out for this year?
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By 5VII - 19/08/2011 5:40:44 AM
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i'd say keeping under wraps, not sure what they would be scared of. unless they are struggling for numbers.
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By 5VII - 19/08/2011 6:09:18 AM
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yeah and without big ben and zirkler i doubt they would give away what they are working with. dark horse this year i think.
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By 5VII - 24/08/2011 12:44:09 AM
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Chimp,
Thanks mate and to answer yourthree requests. I believe a green pair of Crocs might make an appearance this week.
Also very proud of the fact the guys never gave up. Its a long season but after week one the Glads look crisp and the team to beat!
Look forward to your updates and previews.
I think the Glads showed promise on offense and defence but with 100 yards in penalties and 2 players ejected for fighting, but i think a disciplined team like the Firebirds would make them pay if their discipline doesn't improve.
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By 5VII - 27/08/2011 5:12:28 AM
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Chimp 1 - Alex 0
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By 5VII - 7/09/2011 2:03:25 AM
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Personally i don't think cut blocking should be made illegal.Defending against a cut block should be taught with the same importance as any other D-line stunt. It should be second knowledge just like a rip, swim, or spin is. I think it is a last resort for O-Linemen, it has a high risk factor, and if it doesn't work, im sure the quarterback will have words with his O-Line
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By 5VII - 7/09/2011 2:13:48 AM
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Also, taught correctly, a cut block targets the thigh and the O-Linemen is told to roll down the legs. That's why it needs to be taught right to make it safe.
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By 5VII - 23/09/2011 5:55:32 AM
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[quote]Playmaker (22/09/2011)
Reading this to keep up with my old Astros teammates and it sucks to hear they still have small numbers.When you play in heat with all that gear. both ways and special teams its easy to get injured as you tend to not pound your feet all day and plant for longer.
Yeah....playing football in the heat and the teams like the Astros will die out fast. Cos what they are doing now is working really well for them. What I don't get about your logic though is that if it's the heat that causes injuries.....why do the Astros still have so many injuries (when it's not as hot) and why don't other teams suffer from injuries to the same extent given that they play in the same heat. I don't suppose it ever occurred to you that maybe the whole having to play both ways and special teams due to not having the numbers as actually what causes the players to get tired and "not pound your feet all day and plant for longer." Nah....that couldn't be it. FFS.
He means that you are more likely to get injured in the heat, and you're likely enough to get injured playing ironman football but it would definitely be worse in the heat.
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By 5VII - 22/11/2011 5:49:20 PM
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Now now Shane no need to bring my girlfriend into this!
winning.
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By Max Lutz - 19/08/2011 4:56:50 AM
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why didn't the tornadoes have a scrimmage with anyone? scared or keepin under wraps?
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By Max Lutz - 19/08/2011 5:59:25 AM
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So who's the favourite for the flag so far?
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By sonicboom - 24/08/2011 1:10:39 AM
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Chimp,
Thanks mate and to answer yourthree requests. I believe a green pair of Crocs might make an appearance this week.
Also very proud of the fact the guys never gave up. Its a long season but after week one the Glads look crisp and the team to beat!
Look forward to your updates and previews.I think the Glads showed promise on offense and defence but with 100 yards in penalties and 2 players ejected for fighting, but i think a disciplined team like the Firebirds would make them pay if their discipline doesn't improve. | And they still won 24 - nil. Think the rest of the league may need to watch out. They were sloppy on the first drive but looked good from then on. Some of the penalties against were dubious at best... |
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By sonicboom - 7/09/2011 3:07:23 AM
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So we woudn't want youth players to do it "because a cut block lends itself to an increase and severity in knee injuries" but it's OK to do it when you're bigger, stronger and probably heavier??
Errrr....right. And no disrespect but I would consider the ACTG probably closer in quality to the youth competitions in the States than the NCAA or NFL.
Yes, you can get injured doing any number of things in football but again "a cut block lends itself to an increase and severity in knee injuries"
Probably similiar reasons why we banned spear tackles.....
And, Yes. If you do something that lends itself to me getting a severe injury because I am bigger or faster or you have poor technique and therefore you succumb to the temptation to attack a fairly vulnerable body part - I will pick that thing out. Yes, many things in life have sperate rules for adults and children. Cut blocking only leads to an increase and severity of knee injures when you compare it to what?. If you compare it to tackling the ball carrier then it's not so bad. Ball carriers get hit by many guys from multiple directions all at once. Their hands are tied up trying to hold on to the ball. Their potential for injury is great for both the ball carrier and every player involved in the tackle. Yet we still tackle. You get hit by 1 guy from the front and your hands are free to protect yourself. Your potential for injury is actual lower than if you made the tackle. Yet this must be banned!!! If you are worried about being cut than keep your hands down. Adjust the way you play to avoid injury. It's that simple. 1. You obviously missed the point about youth and adults. 2. Cut blocks lead to increase and severity of knee injuries when compared to..........drum roll please........any other block that doesn't target the knees! You know, like blocking the body. 3. I'm actually a ball carrier more than anything else and I have never had such deliberate targeting of my knees like I have at D-Line. And obviously when you're carrying the ball, you usually have a lot more time and space to react. You can also brace yourself for impact and even look to inflict some pain yourself. Having your hands free has very little to do with it (google Jonah Lomu). Much different to having a guy dive straight at you from a few inches away. And not always from the front. 4. If an O-Lineman can dive for my knees, I should be allowed to kick him in the f**kn nuts. His hands are free to protect himself. 1. I got your point. I didn't think it was a relevant argument. You play a game with adults. 2. Everything is relative to something else. Cut blocking is neither the least, nor the most dangerous part of this sport. But it is part of the sport. If you promise to not tackle I am sure the other team will promise not to cut block. Then everybody gets to run with their kids. 3. Most injuries on ball carriers occur from a 2nd or 3rd tackler coming in low. This would be an illegal chop block if done to the DL or LB, but as a ball carrier it is fine. The rate of injury for this type of tackling is much higher than due to cut blocks. Where is your moral outrage on this. Also, if a OL dives at your knees from anywhere but the front it is already illegal. Just to be clear... I never taught the Astros to cut, never installed a play that require a cut. Don't play the game anymore myself cause I like to run with my kid. I understand your point of view. But the cut block is part of the game. If you want to ensure you don't get hurt you either change the way you play or you quit playing.
Very well said. If your that worried about getting an injury from a cut block then I fear you are playing the wrong sport. I've been playing for around 10 years now and have never seen a cut blocking injury.
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By sonicboom - 8/09/2011 12:07:02 AM
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Chimp, Your memory and sight must be getting worse because you must've forgotten to mention or didn't see the massive facemask where a Gladiator player tried to rip off the head of the Tornadoes receiver. Photos by the Tornadoes show it perfectly (wow they are really getting some good photos huh? Who is it that takes their photos and can we get them to take photos of other teams too?): http://www.flickr.com/photos/66453089@N06/6108552487http://www.flickr.com/photos/66453089@N06/6109102962Don’t feel bad though cause the ref standing right next to it missed it as well... Oh and while I’m on it, you might want to check your hearing too because you obviously didnt hear the game changing inadvertent whistle that would have cracked the punt returned open for a wide open field. I say game changing because the Tornadoes drive stalled after that and the Gladiators scored from good field postion. Add a TD to one team and take a TD away from the other and the scoreline would be very different. Sure only two plays out of a whole game, but from the stands it looked like a closer game than the scoreline shows. Considering the Tornadoes failed to score twice deep in the redzone the score could have easily been (at least) 29-37. Or one TD down. So not really the dominance you've suggested.
And if the gladiators didn't score all their touchdowns it would of been closer as well .
Last time I checked stopping the opposition offence on goal line was pretty dominant. From what I saw the gladiators looked like a much better team, sure both made mistakes but your post includes a lot of "what if's".
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By sonicboom - 8/09/2011 1:54:38 AM
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Very well said. If your that worried about getting an injury from a cut block then I fear you are playing the wrong sport. I've been playing for around 10 years now and have never seen a cut blocking injury.I've been playing about 10 years as well and I've never seen a spear tackle injury. (And I have seen spear tackles) Let's go back to those.
Playing with yourself for ten years doesn't count. You couldn't of been watching too hard if you havent seen anyone injured from a spear tackle.
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By sonicboom - 8/09/2011 2:34:06 AM
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Very well said. If your that worried about getting an injury from a cut block then I fear you are playing the wrong sport. I've been playing for around 10 years now and have never seen a cut blocking injury.I've been playing about 10 years as well and I've never seen a spear tackle injury. (And I have seen spear tackles) Let's go back to those. Just last week a RB was speared in the back and cracked 2 ribs. Most likley done for the season. And I've got a sore and swollen knee from the "cut blocks" I got on Saturday. Should we wait till someone is gone for the season till we act against it? Or for two people. Or maybe wait till someone is screwed for life!! Does anyone really dispute the potential risks and danger there is at diving at the oppositions knees?
Im not saying there are no risks, but it is far from the riskiest play on a football field. I have no doubt that injuries do happen from cut blocking but if we are going to legislate against that then where does it end? As has been mentioned previously, learn the correct techniques to beat it and you wont have 'sore and swollen' knees.
If your knees were the only thing sore after a game of football then I suggest you weren't playing hard enough or perhaps it was your saturday night 'activities' that gave you sore knees.
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By sonicboom - 19/10/2011 2:32:51 AM
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I have seen photos of this incident and there is a defender within 2-3 yards of the gladiators RB as he dove into the endzone, who's to say the defender couldn't have made a play and stopped the score.
This to me raises another question. Do we believe that referees with affiliations to other clubs are able to keep their allegiances from clouding their decision making? Im not 100% but I believe the flag that cancelled out this score was thrown by a certain firebirds coach. 7 - 1 Firebirds chasing 8 - 0 gladiators???
I understand that when it comes to referees, there are a limited number of qualified people and also understand that without them there would be no football. Perhaps the scheduling could be done in a way that would eliminate this sort of conflict?
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By sonicboom - 19/10/2011 3:27:26 AM
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There is no conspiracy theory, nor did it affect the outcome of the game - It was never going to give us the chance to come back. As far as I'm aware, Coach Hollywood agreed that he would have done the same thing. Hollywood, can you confirm?
Good game Glads, you big a$$ bastards. Good to see Wazza out and about again too.
Enough speculation about this that and the other on this forum - Keep it to the good clean, fun voilence it should be.
Cheers,
Nadoes 78.
I never mentioned a conspiracy theory. Just one coaches obvious passion and drive to win maybe clouding his ability to make a fair decision
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By sonicboom - 20/10/2011 6:42:55 PM
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Guys are any of you aware we actually PLAY football on weekends? - Go do the officiating courses, learn how to ref, ref a couple of games and study online videos, travel interstate to know and learn good and bad calls.
- Go do the coaching courses, learn how to coach, coach a team, lose some games, win some games understand our sport is more than mental more than just physical and more than just a bunch of guys doing stuff.
- Attend Committee meetings of your clubs and the damn league
- Get your ass to the gym, prepare your body, cut blocks haven't ever been a problem if your not a, stupid and b, fast
- Spend some time running the field, Gridiron is about performance and speed go get some.
Now ofcourse everyone is going to come back and say, but I don't, I can't, blah blah blah...... Then shut the hell up and play the damn game as best you can. Hell offer some praise to people who perform well. You all seem to have enough time to whinge on here but not enough time to REALLY make the game better or encourage those who are and do. I understand as Australians we sling shit that's fine, I find 'Fail Chimp' hilarious at times, but guys stop the whining, concentrate on the great parts of our games and maybe just maybe they'll occur more often and we'll all be able to have a better time out there.
I think your comments are a bit of a generalisation. Not only do I play and coach, I put a lot of effort into preparing for both. Now I'm not speaking for everyone but I do know that many of the other posters in here prepare much the same as I do.
I think that an open forum for discussion of points both good and bad is beneficial to our game. Yes some of you may dismiss my previous comment but I know for a fact I wasnt the only person thinking it. I guess im just the one who decided to put it out there
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By sonicboom - 8/11/2011 10:00:54 PM
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Looking at the penalty count may give a different impression 7 penalties vs 10 seems relatively balanced, what really killed us was that the majority of our penalties came on big plays were we had gained 10+ yards on a run or a pass. Can't solely balme the refs though and credit goes to the wildcats goodluck to them and the firebirds on Saturday.
A question I have though is what is the point of playing the whole season with 4 man crews then getting to the finals and playing with a 7 man crew? finimac2, you get 5 man crews all year long, this is a referee (white cap), umpire, two linesman and a back judge. it could be that one game you had a 4 man crew because there simply wasnt anybody available, in fact there have been a few 6 or 7 man crews this year because the wildcats supplied more refs than were required, that may not have been for a glads game though in any case rather than complain about the lack of referees on thebear why dont you do the level 0 online refs course (takes about 1 hour if you skip all the reading ) go learn how to ref for the junior season and then come referee again in seniors, its very easy to criticise referees until you become one, and you realise that its not as easy as it seems
Shakespeare. Yes it is very easy to criticise referees. You know what makes it even easier? When the head of referees in Australia is at the game along with the Australian Head Coach and they say that the standard of refereeing was terrible. They even went as far as to say it was one of the worst diplays they had seen. Makes it very easy to criticise I think
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By sonicboom - 8/11/2011 10:43:33 PM
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Looking at the penalty count may give a different impression 7 penalties vs 10 seems relatively balanced, what really killed us was that the majority of our penalties came on big plays were we had gained 10+ yards on a run or a pass. Can't solely balme the refs though and credit goes to the wildcats goodluck to them and the firebirds on Saturday.
A question I have though is what is the point of playing the whole season with 4 man crews then getting to the finals and playing with a 7 man crew? finimac2, you get 5 man crews all year long, this is a referee (white cap), umpire, two linesman and a back judge. it could be that one game you had a 4 man crew because there simply wasnt anybody available, in fact there have been a few 6 or 7 man crews this year because the wildcats supplied more refs than were required, that may not have been for a glads game though in any case rather than complain about the lack of referees on thebear why dont you do the level 0 online refs course (takes about 1 hour if you skip all the reading ) go learn how to ref for the junior season and then come referee again in seniors, its very easy to criticise referees until you become one, and you realise that its not as easy as it seems Shakespeare. Yes it is very easy to criticise referees. You know what makes it even easier? When the head of referees in Australia is at the game along with the Australian Head Coach and they say that the standard of refereeing was terrible. They even went as far as to say it was one of the worst diplays they had seen. Makes it very easy to criticise I think How can that be?!?! GA put sooooooooo much effort and time and resource into the game how could this possibly be?!?!? Astonishing!! Oh well....I guess we should just all pack this gridiron thing up and then GA can put all that massive resource and energy somewhere else. Who gives two flying hoots WTF anyone from GA thinks........not me - if you couldn't tell. Its attitudes like yours that are ruining the game in this country. I played other codes of football before finding gridiron and I know for a fact in those other codes that if the head of referee's thinks they had a poor performance then its a long time before they get to referee again. These guys are doing the capital bowl the following week WTF. With people like you around and attitudes like yours this sport will never grow. Whether you like it or not GA is responsible for the sport in this country and for the standards it is run by. Do you think we would just be better having a bunch of state leagues with no affiliation to each other or accountability to anyone. I bet that would help the sport grow. I think the league would be better off without people like you. Some off us love this game, are passionate about it and want to see it grow and thats not gonn happen with this bush league mentality your coming with. I've played against you and I have watched you play. and from what I have seen you play the game hard and enjoy it, but god help us all if you ever try to get into running a club or league because you will set the sport back 10 - 15 years
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By sonicboom - 8/11/2011 11:46:35 PM
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finimac2 (7/11/2011)
Looking at the penalty count may give a different impression 7 penalties vs 10 seems relatively balanced, what really killed us was that the majority of our penalties came on big plays were we had gained 10+ yards on a run or a pass. Can't solely balme the refs though and credit goes to the wildcats goodluck to them and the firebirds on Saturday.
A question I have though is what is the point of playing the whole season with 4 man crews then getting to the finals and playing with a 7 man crew? finimac2, you get 5 man crews all year long, this is a referee (white cap), umpire, two linesman and a back judge. it could be that one game you had a 4 man crew because there simply wasnt anybody available, in fact there have been a few 6 or 7 man crews this year because the wildcats supplied more refs than were required, that may not have been for a glads game though in any case rather than complain about the lack of referees on thebear why dont you do the level 0 online refs course (takes about 1 hour if you skip all the reading ) go learn how to ref for the junior season and then come referee again in seniors, its very easy to criticise referees until you become one, and you realise that its not as easy as it seems Shakespeare. Yes it is very easy to criticise referees. You know what makes it even easier? When the head of referees in Australia is at the game along with the Australian Head Coach and they say that the standard of refereeing was terrible. They even went as far as to say it was one of the worst diplays they had seen. Makes it very easy to criticise I think How can that be?!?! GA put sooooooooo much effort and time and resource into the game how could this possibly be?!?!? Astonishing!! Oh well....I guess we should just all pack this gridiron thing up and then GA can put all that massive resource and energy somewhere else. Who gives two flying hoots WTF anyone from GA thinks........not me - if you couldn't tell. Its attitudes like yours that are ruining the game in this country. I played other codes of football before finding gridiron and I know for a fact in those other codes that if the head of referee's thinks they had a poor performance then its a long time before they get to referee again. These guys are doing the capital bowl the following week WTF. With people like you around and attitudes like yours this sport will never grow. Whether you like it or not GA is responsible for the sport in this country and for the standards it is run by. Do you think we would just be better having a bunch of state leagues with no affiliation to each other or accountability to anyone. I bet that would help the sport grow. I think the league would be better off without people like you. Some off us love this game, are passionate about it and want to see it grow and thats not gonn happen with this bush league mentality your coming with. I've played against you and I have watched you play. and from what I have seen you play the game hard and enjoy it, but god help us all if you ever try to get into running a club or league because you will set the sport back 10 - 15 years I wouldn't normally contribute to this forum, but I have been alerted to the above comment by a colleague (the comment about the "head of referees") and I need to set the record straight. If the above comment is referring to the President of the Australian Gridiron Officials Association, Shaun Dove, he was on the officiating crew for that game. I'm pretty sure he never criticised the performance of his own crew. I'm pretty sure it was referring to me, as one of the senior officials in Australia, and as the AGOA rep on the GA Board. And it that is the case, it is an ABSOLUTE LIE and it is a DISGRACE that such a comment would be placed in any public forum. I would NEVER criticise an officiating crew outside officiating circles. In this case the crew did a GOOD job. I was officially there to critique them, and I told them that they had done a good job during and after the game. The implication of the above comment is that both I and the Australian Head Coach were critical of the officiating. I have no idea what his thoughts were, and I can't speak for him. But the comments implicitly attributed to me are a complete fabrication and the person who fabricated them - whether that is the person making the comment above or the person who gave him that information, if that is the case - has no credibility whatsoever.
My apologies. I was just repeating something I was told. I guess there is a reason hearsay is not admitted in court.
However, I still stand by my comments on the quality of refereeing on the day. Having seen video of the game in the days since, I still dont understand how things can be missed not 3 yards from a referee in an are they are meant to be watching. On another occasion the officials spent a good 2 - 3 minutes discussing what the penalty yardage was for a PI penalty and they still got it wrong. Is this a good look for our game?
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By sonicboom - 9/11/2011 12:37:26 AM
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TonyMartin (8/11/2011)
sonicboom (8/11/2011)
My apologies. I was just repeating something I was told. I guess there is a reason hearsay is not admitted in court.
However, I still stand by my comments on the quality of refereeing on the day. Having seen video of the game in the days since, I still dont understand how things can be missed not 3 yards from a referee in an are they are meant to be watching. On another occasion the officials spent a good 2 - 3 minutes discussing what the penalty yardage was for a PI penalty and they still got it wrong. Is this a good look for our game?Thanks for the apology. We can differ in our opinion, of course, and that's fine. Watching video after the fact is always a good idea, but of course that's not available at the time the call has to be made. If you can't understand how things can be missed, it probably means (and I say this with the utmost respect) that you haven't given it a try. Once again you are making comments about things you don't understand. The on-field discussion was NOT about the penalty for the PI, but whether the foul was there. If different officials have a different view because they have a different angle, sometimes a discussion is inevitable in order to get the right decision. This happens at all levels. It probably took about a minute, by my recollection. It's still not ideal if it goes longer than absolutely necessary, and it could have been done a bit quicker, and that's been discussed. The enforcement itself was spot on. 15 yards from the previous spot, and that's how it was marched off. If you think that's wrong, what penalty would you have enforced?
I have no problem with the decision that was made, as I feel it was the correct call. The problem I have is with the officials not knowing where to place the ball. One official said 15 yards from the original spot, one said at the spot of the foul and one said fifteen from the foul. The fact they did not know the answer to this immediately, in my opinion isn't good enough.
Yes the problem may be the difference between NCAA v NFL, but shouldn't the officials know what the yardage should be?
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By Lemonaide - 26/08/2011 10:15:41 PM
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Long time reader, first time poster. Umm Chimp, I’ve noticed you're being a little softer on the Gladiators this year? Word on the street is that with all the taunts, burns and bazingas you've given the Glads on this here forum for the past two maybe three years their hit man has finally tracked you down and caught up with you. Are the rumours true that you could be doing all your posts tied up, tortured, ankles broken and being forced to type Kathy Bates style form the coconut bungalow? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zzg3UP-x8k&feature=related Type 1 if you are and cannot talk!
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By Lemonaide - 27/08/2011 3:01:39 AM
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@ Chimp. No need to get self-protective, just saying I noticed a lack of zing in your usual Gladiators appraisal since the off-season. And I was wondering why? Maybe you have taken the addage to heart that blue and green should never be seen?
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By Lemonaide - 7/09/2011 11:50:07 PM
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Chimp,
Your memory and sight must be getting worse because you must've forgotten to mention or didn't see the massive facemask where a Gladiator player tried to rip off the head of the Tornadoes receiver. Photos by the Tornadoes show it perfectly (wow they are really getting some good photos huh? Who is it that takes their photos and can we get them to take photos of other teams too?):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/66453089@N06/6108552487
http://www.flickr.com/photos/66453089@N06/6109102962
Don’t feel bad though cause the ref standing right next to it missed it as well...
Oh and while I’m on it, you might want to check your hearing too because you obviously didnt hear the game changing inadvertent whistle that would have cracked the punt returned open for a wide open field. I say game changing because the Tornadoes drive stalled after that and the Gladiators scored from good field postion. Add a TD to one team and take a TD away from the other and the scoreline would be very different.
Sure only two plays out of a whole game, but from the stands it looked like a closer game than the scoreline shows. Considering the Tornadoes failed to score twice deep in the redzone the score could have easily been (at least) 29-37. Or one TD down. So not really the dominance you've suggested.
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By Lemonaide - 11/09/2011 11:03:34 PM
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Now that we have more safeties that are not looking for the ball and are just going for the big hit *cough* Tino and Tony *cough* and a lot more of the recievers getting injuried, when is a reciever a 'defenceless player'? I saw an example of this yesterday when a reciever from the Tornadoes get mangled by TC after the ball had flown over his head and he stopped. a second later Tony decided to teach him a lesson for stopping. The refs threw the flags but after a lengthy discussion waived it off.
Same sort of play happened with the firebirds when they had a reciever crossing the middle and Tino warned him not to by putting his helmet through the back of the recievers spine even though the ball sailed over their heads. This time the refs didnt flag it at all.
Neither of these two safties are looking for the ball...ever. Both recievers have eyes for the ball and both safties only had eyes for the hit. So when is a player defenceless?
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By Lemonaide - 12/09/2011 3:03:00 AM
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Bullrush (11/09/2011)
Answers to range from:
a) Just teach you receivers to handle it better.
b) In 10 years playing I've never sen a really serious injury from this.
c) The rules allow it so stop whining.
d) The rules don't allow it but we'll never call it anyway.
......lol :fishing:
Pot calling the kettle black maybe?! Aren't you the one that bitched about cut blocking for the past week. The fact is that a player is looking at the ball (similar to a kick returner) should have SOME protection when the ball goes over his head. He cant see the safety coming in like a steamtrain head down, bum up ready for the hit. You at least being cut block can see who it taking out your legs.
Coach Old (11/09/2011)
I'm sorry, are you talking about the same Tino that holds the equal all-time League record for interceptions? The same Tino who got another interception yesterday?
Yes I am talking about the same Tino that goes for more hits than intercepts. Where exactly do you base your statistics? He didn't even make the category leaders for intercepts for 2010!? Are you also saying that he doesn't go for the big hit when players come across the deep middle? I'm sure there are plenty of receivers around the league that would disagree. 'M Radisich' from the wildcats would be one wondering the same thing when his team just dug a hole to bury his remains after a Tino big hit instead of an intercept. 85 from the Firebirds would be another to join the list where Tino has decided the hit was worth more than going for the ball.
I don't care about the physicality of the game and unlike others (I'm looking at you Bullrush) I don't want to take that out of the game and bubblewrap all the players. Receivers should know that across the middle is dangerous area to play in. I'm just asking that surely some of these receivers should be protected downfield when they are no longer in the play because the ball has gone sailing over their head.
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By Lemonaide - 12/09/2011 5:40:20 AM
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@ Hollywood,
Thanks for the stats update, I couldn't find stats from earlier seasons.
I do understand what you are saying and I do agree that the QB's need to share the blame for their hospital passes. I also understand that both Tino and Tony are Australian players - didn't know that, so wow, well done to them! Being an Australian player though doesn't give you an open invitation to shirk the rules of the sport.
I don't have tape of the Tony Conner hit, because these days I just come to watch the games. Would be interesting to see any video of the game though to see it on replay.
Just asking the question out loud to discuss current issues with the sport as some of the hits look to be questionable from the stands. Obviously there isn't any flags on most of these hits but that doesn't mean that the refs are watching that closely or understand the ruling themselves. I mean there were two flags down in the Tony hit on the weekend but it got waived off in the end. Surely if one ref thinks there is an issue then there is a doubt, but when two thinks there is an issue then how can it be waived? 
To repeat my simple question... when is a player classed as a defenceless player? If a ball goes sailing and the receiver stops or slows, are they or are they not classed as a defenceless player?
@ Bullrush,
If you don't want me to discuss M Radisich (or Whoopie) then fine. Just using it as an example as of possibly safety issue for your players as well as other players. If you dont want anyone to reference the wildcats in any discussion that could help your team then your choice! Not going to remove my comments though.
To answer your question - which I believe others have done numerous times just you keep wanting to argue about it! The legal term is "blocking below the waist" there is NOTHING in the rulebook about blocking at knee or attacking the knees. And last time I did biology the knee IS below the waist! So if you're in a position to block below the waist - including the knees - then it is legal. UNLESS someone attacks high at the same time in the high/low combination then that is chop blocking and illegal. Its a pretty simple concept and one that should now be put to bed.
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By Lemonaide - 21/11/2011 8:53:50 PM
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Youmustbeoutsideyourmind (19/11/2011)
Don't know what rest of you think but the gladiators should be back in the canteen next year...... There food was made to look like it came from a gourmet restaurant, compared to the microwave meat pies that came out this year!
No matter what you say to your girlfriend on a date...Maccas is NOT a Gourmet restaurant!
Personally I think the Wildcats did it best a few years ago when they had a special of the week.
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By Lemonaide - 13/09/2011 1:29:51 AM
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Hail to the Chimp (12/09/2011)
Wikus,
I agree that any concerns in regards to penalties should be taken up with the referees and the ACTG committee. Voicing them here doesn't resolve anything. I used to whinge about bad penalties on here until I was blue in the face but surprise, surprise nothing changed, and nor should it. The only people issues like this should be going to are the above mentioned groups and it should be the coaches and club reps doing it.
So I'm not allowed to ask a question of when is someone classed as a defenceless player? We all come here to discuss the game and parts of the game. Some are simple discussions that end quickly and others get dragged out while different opinions are put out there until a consensus is reached and opinions are changed. No-one has given me any reference to any ruling about when is a player classed as defenceless? My examples were simply that, examples of recent plays. If I could think of any others I'd watched over the last 4 weekens then i would have.
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By Lemonaide - 26/09/2011 8:54:58 AM
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Hail to the Chimp (25/09/2011)
Round 6 Review
Game 2 - Gladiators 36 defeat / forfeited Centurions 0
Two weeks, two forfeits. It's a shame to see this happen in the ACTG comp and even more sad considering the difference between the situations. The Astros had to forfeit due to player numbers and injuries last week but I'm not too sure why the Centurions forfeited this week considering they went down to the Firebirds last week 42-0 and the game went to the whistle. I know that an altercation broke out early in the second half but both players left the field (I thought only one was ejected) and while they game's intensity lifted following this incident I couldn't see anything else dirty happening.
Perhaps Pete pulled the plug on playing to protect his young team from the game degenerating into a brawlfest? After the fight it did look like the "intensity" (as you put it) lifted. Personally I would call it cheap shots (and before you attack me, I'd say it was on both sides of the ball.) But the play that looked to end it all was the late hit after the whistle which the refs missed, and I'm guessing you did too Chimp?
I don't like teams pulling the plug in the middle of the game but the refs are being very lenient on allowing players to continue playing. Eject them, make them sit in the stands for the rest of the game. I mean seriously how many times do we have to see players lose control of their emotions? How many fights do we have to have? Why don't we have a judiciary? How can players that are getting ejected two or three times in a season keep just playing the following week no lessons learnt? Its the equivalent of a smack on the wrist...
Do other leagues have a judiciary?
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By Lemonaide - 19/10/2011 8:00:43 PM
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Unfortunately Ginger if I wrote about every funny and memorable moment from every game I'd never get a chance to do anything else.
Isnt that the point of your reviews???!
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By Lemonaide - 8/11/2011 10:33:35 AM
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finimac2 (7/11/2011)
A question I have though is what is the point of playing the whole season with 4 man crews then getting to the finals and playing with a 7 man crew?
This can't be a serious question, right?? Why wouldn't you have a 7 man crew in a semi final if you can get the refs for it?? The simple answer is, BECAUSE IT WAS A SEMI-FINAL!! Personally from the stands I think the game was fair for both teams and a lot of the little cheap shots were taken out of it leaving for an evenly matched game. There were a lot of big penalties that went both ways (the questionable pass interference before the half is one example) The only critism I have is from the stands you couldn't hear Mitch call the penalty so there was a lot of guessing what it was. Can we have the ref mic'd for the finals?
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By Lemonaide - 8/11/2011 10:36:16 AM
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Oops (5/11/2011)
The Chimp...aka daddy...aka.................................Geld..........................your now team dates...hates...sorry mates, should have a look back over the posts since you started commenting on the Glads...I find it real funny that the glads biggest and harshist critic (I am sure thatyou would have been heard by many saying that the comp would be better without the cheating glads...although you seem to have changed your tune...and now the way you play the game just to fit in better...) now plays for them...speaks aces for your personality and respect.
People should really watch what they say...and who to...
Please dont let this stop your posts old chimpy...they are freaken funny and everyone should just take them with a nit from your head (with a grain of salt).
+1 for you!! I said right from the start that blue and green don't mix!! HA HA HA
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By Lemonaide - 15/11/2011 2:59:46 AM
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Butthead73 (14/11/2011)
oh and the Centurions gave up the least amount of sacks this year
That’s because it’s not counted as a sack when your QB is continually running for his life! LOL
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By Hmmm - 6/09/2011 8:49:09 PM
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Hmmm...no. If done correctly they are effective, if done badly you can step around them and make the play.
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By Hmmm - 6/09/2011 9:08:05 PM
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Of course it can injure someone but so can bad tackling technique etc..and a cut block is a proper block. Otherwise D-line could run through knowing that there is no cut blocking making their job easier. At least with the cut block in play the D-line do have to use their brains a bit... (I know linemen and brains don't mix...)
Are cut blocks banned in the national comp?
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By Hmmm - 6/09/2011 10:21:03 PM
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Wasn't an insult and should've put a smiley or lol at the end - was meant to be a joke...and I was referring to all lineman either side of the ball... You seem to think that I play O-line which is not right, I play D-line (sporadically and not very well I might add!)
I understand the risks involved however, if it was a massive problem - (and I don't know if or how many guys have had injuries resultant from the cut block in the act league) surely it would've been addressed? Or just banned outright in the entire game???
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By Ryan - 7/09/2011 12:12:23 AM
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Bullrush (6/09/2011)
[quote]Hmmm (6/09/2011)
On the risks however....do we wait for something to become a 'massive problem' before we address it? Surely there is enough documented and anecdotal evidence to prove the increase of rick of injury with this technique to not have to wait for someone or some people to actually get seriously injured?
And to the Chimp - I understand your arguement regarding squad numbers and players perhaps not playing their prefered position however, I refer to the statement I posted earlier from Tom Bass:
"I realize the temptation will always be there to teach the cut block if your offensive linemen are smaller than the defensive players or if your linemen have the tendency to stand straight up, but I hope you will not succumb to this temptation.
Instead of using a cut, block you might consider using angle, cross, trap or combination block to overcome a size mismatch."
I have been reading books by Tom Bass since gradeschool. A copy of "Play football the NFL way" is sitting on my coffee table. I am positive that it teaches cut blocking but I will check again tonight.
The quote you are using is missing the context of the question he was answering. The full question and answer are below. The bold emphasis below is mine.
Question - "What is the general rule for defensive or offensive linemen in youth football when it comes to cut blocking - blocking below the knees - on the line of scrimmage?"
Answer - Different rules apply to different leagues, and I encourage you to forward this question to your local official’s association just to be on the safe side.
To my knowledge, a great number of leagues have made it illegal to make initial contact below the waist of an opponent other than a ball-carrier.
Some leagues consider it a legal block if the block was part of a continuous block or charge where contact was first made above the waist. The problem with teaching this technique is the official may only see the last part of the block, and the player will be accessed a penalty he does not deserve.
As a coach, one of our most important goals should be to provide the safest possible environment for all players – ours and our opponents. Because a cut block lends itself to an increase and severity in knee injuries, I encourage coaches not to teach it or allow their players to use it.
I realize the temptation will always be there to teach the cut block if your offensive linemen are smaller than the defensive players or if your linemen have the tendency to stand straight up, but I hope you will not succumb to this temptation.
Instead of using a cut, block you might consider using angle, cross, trap or combination block to overcome a size mismatch.
The game itself already gives the O-Line some advantages over the D-Line. The challenge is up to he coaches and player to make the most of those without resorting to (if refraining from using words I'd really like to here) blatant cutting.
Do you not think you have any advantages over the OL? I do.
There are an endless list of things in this game that even if done to perfection can get you or someone else injured. It seems to me you are picking out this one of many many things that can cause injury because it is the most likely to cause YOU injury.
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By Ryan - 7/09/2011 1:42:38 AM
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Bullrush (6/09/2011)
So we woudn't want youth players to do it "because a cut block lends itself to an increase and severity in knee injuries" but it's OK to do it when you're bigger, stronger and probably heavier??
Errrr....right. And no disrespect but I would consider the ACTG probably closer in quality to the youth competitions in the States than the NCAA or NFL.
Yes, you can get injured doing any number of things in football but again "a cut block lends itself to an increase and severity in knee injuries"
Probably similiar reasons why we banned spear tackles.....
And, Yes. If you do something that lends itself to me getting a severe injury because I am bigger or faster or you have poor technique and therefore you succumb to the temptation to attack a fairly vulnerable body part - I will pick that thing out.
Yes, many things in life have seperate rules for adults and children.
Cut blocking only leads to an increase and severity of knee injures when you compare it to what?. If you compare it to tackling the ball carrier then it's not so bad.
Ball carriers get hit by many guys from multiple directions all at once. Their hands are tied up trying to hold on to the ball. Their potential for injury is great for both the ball carrier and every player involved in the tackle. Yet we still tackle.
You get hit by 1 guy from the front and your hands are free to protect yourself. Your potential for injury is actual lower than if you made the tackle. Yet this must be banned!!!
If you are worried about being cut than keep your hands down. Adjust the way you play to avoid injury. It's that simple.
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By Ryan - 7/09/2011 3:01:39 AM
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Bullrush (6/09/2011)
Ryan (6/09/2011)
Bullrush (6/09/2011)
So we woudn't want youth players to do it "because a cut block lends itself to an increase and severity in knee injuries" but it's OK to do it when you're bigger, stronger and probably heavier??
Errrr....right. And no disrespect but I would consider the ACTG probably closer in quality to the youth competitions in the States than the NCAA or NFL.
Yes, you can get injured doing any number of things in football but again "a cut block lends itself to an increase and severity in knee injuries"
Probably similiar reasons why we banned spear tackles.....
And, Yes. If you do something that lends itself to me getting a severe injury because I am bigger or faster or you have poor technique and therefore you succumb to the temptation to attack a fairly vulnerable body part - I will pick that thing out. Yes, many things in life have sperate rules for adults and children. Cut blocking only leads to an increase and severity of knee injures when you compare it to what?. If you compare it to tackling the ball carrier then it's not so bad. Ball carriers get hit by many guys from multiple directions all at once. Their hands are tied up trying to hold on to the ball. Their potential for injury is great for both the ball carrier and every player involved in the tackle. Yet we still tackle. You get hit by 1 guy from the front and your hands are free to protect yourself. Your potential for injury is actual lower than if you made the tackle. Yet this must be banned!!! If you are worried about being cut than keep your hands down. Adjust the way you play to avoid injury. It's that simple. 1. You obviously missed the point about youth and adults. 2. Cut blocks lead to increase and severity of knee injuries when compared to..........drum roll please........any other block that doesn't target the knees! You know, like blocking the body. 3. I'm actually a ball carrier more than anything else and I have never had such deliberate targeting of my knees like I have at D-Line. And obviously when you're carrying the ball, you usually have a lot more time and space to react. You can also brace yourself for impact and even look to inflict some pain yourself. Having your hands free has very little to do with it (google Jonah Lomu). Much different to having a guy dive straight at you from a few inches away. And not always from the front. 4. If an O-Lineman can dive for my knees, I should be allowed to kick him in the f**kn nuts. His hands are free to protect himself.
1. I got your point. I didn't think it was a relevant argument. You play a game with adults.
2. Everything is relative to something else. Cut blocking is neither the least, nor the most dangerous part of this sport. But it is part of the sport. If you promise to not tackle I am sure the other team will promise not to cut block. Then everybody gets to run with their kids.
3. Most injuries on ball carriers occur from a 2nd or 3rd tackler coming in low. This would be an illegal chop block if done to the DL or LB, but as a ball carrier it is fine. The rate of injury for this type of tackling is much higher than due to cut blocks. Where is your moral outrage on this. Also, if a OL dives at your knees from anywhere but the front it is already illegal.
Just to be clear... I never taught the Astros to cut, never installed a play that require a cut. Don't play the game anymore myself cause I like to run with my kid. I understand your point of view. But the cut block is part of the game. If you want to ensure you don't get hurt you either change the way you play or you quit playing.
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By Ryan - 8/09/2011 2:02:35 AM
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Bullrush (7/09/2011)
sonicboom (6/09/2011)
Very well said. If your that worried about getting an injury from a cut block then I fear you are playing the wrong sport. I've been playing for around 10 years now and have never seen a cut blocking injury.I've been playing about 10 years as well and I've never seen a spear tackle injury. (And I have seen spear tackles) Let's go back to those.
Just last week a RB was speared in the back and cracked 2 ribs. Most likley done for the season.
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By Ryan - 8/09/2011 2:58:17 AM
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Bullrush (7/09/2011)
"you can't change the game"....bullshit. Do you still wear a leather 'helmet'? Is it impossible to do both at the same time?
I'm sure he meant YOU can't change the game. You're only one man, give up already saftey nazi!
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By Ryan - 12/09/2011 1:40:26 AM
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Lemonaide (11/09/2011)
Now that we have more safeties that are not looking for the ball and are just going for the big hit *cough* Tino and Tony *cough* and a lot more of the recievers getting injuried, when is a reciever a 'defenceless player'? I saw an example of this yesterday when a reciever from the Tornadoes get mangled by TC after the ball had flown over his head and he stopped. a second later Tony decided to teach him a lesson for stopping. The refs threw the flags but after a lengthy discussion waived it off.
Same sort of play happened with the firebirds when they had a reciever crossing the middle and Tino warned him not to by putting his helmet through the back of the recievers spine even though the ball sailed over their heads. This time the refs didnt flag it at all.
Neither of these two safties are looking for the ball...ever. Both recievers have eyes for the ball and both safties only had eyes for the hit. So when is a player defenceless?
I thought the hit from Tino occurred on a completed pass (and what a catch it was). From the stands it looked like he lead with the helmet but it was a quick play with multiple players flying tru the air from different directions. As a coach I want my safeties to make that hit in a legal manner. He was not in position to make a play on the ball.
The hit from TC may have been legal but I didn't like it as a coach or a fan. He didn't leave his feet till after the ball was tipped and didn't attempt to make a play on the ball even though he was in position to catch that ball. He does it almost every week. Not only does it hurt his team by giving up a turnover, It always fires up the opposing team more than it fires up the Astros. I never could get him to change the way he plays and at the same time didn't have other options at that position.
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By Ryan - 27/10/2011 2:42:55 AM
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I don't know how much good you think you have done over the years
But I do know that the bad will continue in an anonymous message board with or without you.
Just like the father who will never come back to watch after this weekend; If all the good guys step back then the bad will fill the vacuum left behind and ensure the death of the league. If you love the sport and the league, you do not surrender it to guys that are just out to make trouble.
What I found interesting today was a newly posted link on the Glads facebook page to the ESPN, 30 for 30 on Miami swagger. Is this how they see themselves? I can't express enough how much I hate that attitude to gridiron. If the rest of the NCAA had bowed down and all tried to copy those past Miami teams in the hopes of the same success, then gridiron in America would be a joke. Good coaches kept doing the right thing. Teaching life lessons, sportsmanship and respect for the game. The Miami swagger vanished and now that school is desperately trying to prove to the NCAA that they can do it right. (Head coach Al Golden is a long time assistant of Joe Paterno)
I hate seeing stupidity win while smart folks walk away.
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By Ryan - 28/10/2011 7:55:51 AM
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Coach Hollywood (27/10/2011)
Ryan (26/10/2011)
What I found interesting today was a newly posted link on the Glads facebook page to the ESPN, 30 for 30 on Miami swagger. Is this how they see themselves? I can't express enough how much I hate that attitude to gridiron. If the rest of the NCAA had bowed down and all tried to copy those past Miami teams in the hopes of the same success, then gridiron in America would be a joke. Good coaches kept doing the right thing. Teaching life lessons, sportsmanship and respect for the game. The Miami swagger vanished and now that school is desperately trying to prove to the NCAA that they can do it right. (Head coach Al Golden is a long time assistant of Joe Paterno)
I hate seeing stupidity win while smart folks walk away.Hey Ryan - Go and give yourself and upper cut and pull ya head in on the Miami link....Oh my god the amount of people who then must think they are Ray Lewis ...if thats the case... We watched that on the Outback camp - thought I would share it...Come and see me on the weekend if you wish to discuss it further As for the Dad issue aka Bucs - well Bucs needs to go and get his old eye's checked - those playing days - the older I get the better I was - have really knocked him around. If your the guy who's going to spin so much crap - well may be it's great that you go and never come back. I can't wait till the season is over and our media ban is over - I soooo look forward to correcting quite a few wrongs from a few people... Don't see why I need to pull my head in. I asked a question, expressed my own opinion, then I signed my own name. I didn't attack anybody personally or claim to know things that I don't know. We can agree to disagree about Miami swagger and it's contribution to football. I've been to enough games at the old Orange bowl to be entitled to comment. Isn't that what message boards are for? More than anything I thought the timing of the link was unfortunate.
I won't make it this weekend till the middle of your game but I'll come say hello after it's over. Good luck.
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By Ryan - 31/10/2011 11:49:49 PM
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Thanks Coach Hollywood
Simple misunderstandings can be common on this type of board. That and the fact that I haven't gotten to know that many Glads in my 2 years involved in the league left me asking my original question. That question has been answered and I am confident that you guys are trying to lead your players in the right direction.
By the way, since I'm almost positive that nobody here could dig up any film from my playing days. I can say with complete confidence that I was f***ing great back then.
Ryan
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By Ryan - 9/11/2011 7:53:22 AM
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"WHO IS THE 'PhAnTOm fLaG' "
I can't imagine that anybody cares. Don't quit your day job.
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By Ryan - 13/09/2011 2:19:43 AM
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[b]Lemonaide (12/09/2011) "different opinions are put out there until a consensus is reached and opinions are changed."
When the hell has consensus ever been reached or an opinion ever been changed here?
This is an anonymous forum for rumors and false bravado that result in entertainment and humor.
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By Ryan - 13/09/2011 3:02:10 AM
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Hail to the Chimp (12/09/2011)
Ryan (12/09/2011)
[b]Lemonaide (12/09/2011) "different opinions are put out there until a consensus is reached and opinions are changed." When the hell has consensus ever been reached or an opinion ever been changed here?This is an anonymous forum for rumors and false bravado that result in entertainment and humor. Agreed .......wait a second false bravado.....dammit , send me your details "Ryan" if that is your real name and I'll meet up with you and show you false bravado. If I fail to make that appointment it is not due to cowardice, fear, realisation that the only punching I know how to do is how to punch the letters on the keyboard or any other cowardly reason. I was simply busy beating someone else up and will get to you later . Cheers Chimp
I don't know "Chimp", which I am sure is your real name. This sounds like set up to me. You can keep your bravado in your pants cause I'm not interested.
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By Ryan - 21/09/2011 2:41:22 AM
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Hey Chimp,
I agree that nobody likes to see a forfeit. What I like even less is some guy who comments on the game telling actual players they are quitters! You name for me any other team that has 8 two way starters that also play SP. Find me another QB in this league that moonlights as a MLB. The amount of snaps those guys play is amazing. The opposing players can judge them, not you.
What did you do this off season to get better as a league commentator? I know the Astros worked there tails off to improve as players and grow as a club.
This off season the Astros roster had 13 returning players and no Jr squad. By the end of July they had 31 guys with down payments paid. They were getting 20-25 to training on a regular basis and they had 2 full time coaches. The last week in July the wheels started to come off due to a number of things. Before opening day they have had 2 guys move away, 4 guys quit due to family commitments (2 players and both coaches), 1 guy decide he was too old and retire, 1 guy hurt in the preseason and yet suit up, 1 season ending injury, and lastly 1 guy put on house arrest by the judge.
That gave them a max game day squad of 23 for this season. Last week they came into the game with 5 players out with injuries on 1 on holiday in Europe. After suffering 2 more injuries during the game they were left with 15. The league min to start a game. They made the call that it wasn't worth risking another injury and possibly an outright forfeit this coming week.
Every full game they played with low numbers last year they were within a touchdown at the half. It's easy to ask for more when they have a punchers chance of stealing a win. They sure as hell didn't do it for your entertainment. But asking players to run though a brick wall when down by 24 at half is a whole nother level of crazy.
Sometimes even when you do all the right things to get stronger as a club, life still kicks ya in the ass.
But in the end, they don't need me to defend them. They can do that themselves, just come on down to the field sometime and show them your bravado in person.
Also, none of the Astros problems are due to the timing of the season. I would think that moving / delaying the season would drive away as many players as it attracts.
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By Ryan - 21/09/2011 4:41:17 AM
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Hail to the Chimp (17/09/2011)
Game 5 Review
Forfeit - WTF Astros, this was the same team I saw last season playing with 15 players and refusing to give an inch and never saying die deciding they would forfeit with what appeared to be enough numbers to keep playing. If this is wrong I apologise but it's a shame to see anyone quit.
Cheers
Chimp Looks like he called em quitters to me. Bullrush, Just my opinion on the timing of the season formed from trying to recruit and retain players in this area over the last year.
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By Ryan - 24/09/2011 12:22:01 AM
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Stump87 (23/09/2011)
Just my 2 cents anyway, unfortunatley I don't have the time to be involved in the politics of Gridiron ACT, maybe someone on here will read this, claim it as their own idea and go to these league meetings to improve the game, to which I say say, go for it. I don't want credit for anything I say, I just want to play football.
I agree with everything you just said. But the most important point was saved for last. Everybody has ideas, nobody is willing to spend the time to implement them. Myself included
At it's core the league and it's clubs are run by volunteers. It's time consuming from the top administrator (No idea how Shawn does it all) all the way down to the rookie player. Any grand scheme to increase the league profile has to operate with minimal man hours and cash.
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By Ryan - 24/09/2011 5:23:49 AM
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Bullrush - I do feel that radios ads, guys with sandwich boards, a commentator for games, improved refs. All of that cost money and takes time. I was not saying that a 3 week delay in the season was a grand scheme. I just don't agree with it.
Wally - Every crew of refs for every game has to constantly balance the speed of the game versus the accuracy of the calls. I don't mind a couple of quick chats to get the call as close to right as they are capable. Plus it's an opportunity for sr refs to give a bit OJT to the jr refs and get that improvement everybody wants.
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By echoes - 24/10/2011 1:19:37 AM
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How is the Gladiators player? Any news yet? Hope all is well....
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By echoes - 28/10/2011 7:53:14 AM
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Well that's good news about Jerry. With the other stuff, time to move on....the game is bigger then all of us and nothing without us.
Coach Old (27/10/2011)
echoes (23/10/2011)
How is the Gladiators player? Any news yet? Hope all is well....Hey echoes, Jerry is recovering, thanks for your concern. He's suffered bruising of the spinal column at C2, C3 and C4. All things considered he was very lucky as with the location of his injury the result could have been extremely severe with just the slightest more impact (think Chris Reeve). As it is he's expected to make a full recovery, and has gone home from hospital with the collar off. It's a great relief and I probably don't have to tell anyone it scared the crap out of most of us as Jerry's a good mate who's always played the game well, clean, and at about twice his actual size. It was a good, legal tackle and Jerry's injury was just one of those unlucky things that we all risk when we take the football field. I won't comment on "the incident" other than to say that the Gladiators Club regrets it, that the Judiciary has dealt with the matter, and I have asked my players not to comment on the episode on this or any other public forum. As for the rest of the game the Firebirds played well, hard, and with a great intensity. I especially congratulate big 65, we had a good hit up in a great competitive spirit all game. I congratulate the birdies on their win and on taking out the top position, and wish them well - but not too well for the rest of the season. Oldy
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By echoes - 6/11/2011 10:00:52 PM
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finimac2 (6/11/2011)
shit you guys have a camp? how many people fit in your tent? ps the chimp is clearly John Crispin, watches every game pretending he is doing 'stats' i know he loves message boards and facebook! Well I don't know about having a camp but....  
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By echoes - 6/11/2011 11:32:41 PM
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The Hated (6/11/2011)
Case in point LOL thanks Centurions dude for putting those up... There is too much love from some of the boys.
Again assumptions on who people are on this forum, these images are readily available on the net. Google is your friend.
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By echoes - 7/11/2011 9:41:27 AM
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[quote]beeker (6/11/2011)
Congratulations to the Wildcats on their win yesterday and their first ever grand final appearance.
Unfortunately if the same refereeing standard is applied the Wildcats will meet the same fate as the Gladiators did with a penalty count that was so one sided. I would love to see Crispins Stats on this game, especially the penalty count and the lack of player safety on late hits after the whistle was blown. I hope the league will actually do something about it for next weeks game but from what I have watch this season this is not going to happen under this current administration. As requested
Penalties: Number-Yards . . . . . . . . . . . GW 9 - 71 GL 10 - 108
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By echoes - 9/11/2011 9:08:26 AM
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Ryan (8/11/2011)
"WHO IS THE 'PhAnTOm fLaG' "
I can't imagine that anybody cares. Don't quit your day job.
+1
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By echoes - 20/11/2011 10:08:10 PM
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Youmustbeoutsideyourmind (19/11/2011)
Don't know what rest of you think but the gladiators should be back in the canteen next year...... There food was made to look like it came from a gourmet restaurant, compared to the microwave meat pies that came out this year!
Whoever does it ------- real hotdogs please!
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By echoes - 15/12/2011 2:48:18 AM
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Nothing on here about the new team proposed for next year???? or is it a secret? if so then oops sorry, thoughts, comments? more the better I say.
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By echoes - 15/12/2011 6:57:06 AM
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wally (14/12/2011)
Don't know much about it/them but if the Astros don't collapse then it will be great to have a 7th team, if the Astro's do then at least we remain at 6 teams.
I did hear that they are to be a strictly indigenous/torres strait Islanders team which is great. Though I wonder if they will be able to get the numbers to sustain a full squad as a lot of those guys play other codes of football, which we all know conflict with the gridiron season.
Wow did not know the "strictly indigenous/torres strait Islanders team" side of it, is that allowed in today's politically correct society?
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By echoes - 6/03/2012 8:39:57 AM
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PhAntOM fLaG (5/03/2012)
Too True Hollywood
I too, am very keen to see what this NEW TEAM is like, to say the LEAST I am very keen to see what the NEW 2012/13 EXEC is going to bring to the sport. . . . probably nothing
Jury is out on that one, To see one name going for all the positions and not get one of them strikes me as 'ODD' - is there a undergoing theme here that I am not privy too?
Heres another thing, who the HELL are the x2 new people on the Board, never HEARD OF THEM, NEVER SEEN THEM, PROBABLY WON'T EVEN see them through out the season. (Were they their for the JUNIOR SEASON OPENER????? hmmm don't think so, did they introduce themeselves to other club members, are they a presence in and around the clubs, asking players/coaches/officials what we could do to make it better, hmmmmm)
I love the Junior Timing (GAME CLOCK) system, a thought might be to Try in the Senior Season?
Well at least for now the Junior season looks well under away, hope they get alot of support as the sport will quickly die just like any chance of having a decent Summer this year - (with all this rain you'd think we were in Queensland).
Is it not about numbers, the more people with their hands up wins you the position, obviously this nameless candidate did not rally his or her supporters to the vote?
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By shakespeare - 26/09/2011 11:02:47 PM
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Regarding the Glads v Cents
I was the referee in charge of making the call on the final play. I did throw the flag, possibly late, however it was thrown. I think Pete must have just missed it because I remember thinking why the fuck is he yelling at me to throw the flag when I already threw it lol. I admit I am unsure of the actual ruling as per NCAA rules, I saw the Glads players with both of his hands on the Cents player's helmet, one on the back, one on the face mask. I didn't actually see how they ended up in the position, especially considering the Cents player didn't have the ball. So I threw the flag, quite rightly so I should add, but as I said I think Pete missed it, while he was blowing up. As for the mercy rule. When the gap is 40 points between a team, the mercy rule automatically comes into effect. Both teams can keep playing if both coaches are in agreement, unfortunately for the Glads one coach wanting to keep playing is not enough (If you want a full game maybe you guys should score less lol). The score stands as it is for the points differential system (I think), however, team and individual stats still accumulate. For example, rushing yards for a player and the team still accumulate after the mercy rule. I am not sure if what Pete did was legal, strictly speaking, the only other option, as was discussed in the Astros V Glads game the week before (which I also reffed), was that the Glads could just walk in touchdowns until the mercy rule came into effect. @ Flemdog23 The only other thing I might add is, yes reffing is very hard. You should know this because I was giving you shit last week on the sideline haha.
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By shakespeare - 9/10/2011 11:08:43 PM
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if anybody gets the canberra times on sunday our league got a brief mention in it, some free publicity for anybody who can be bothered to read that far into the back pages haha
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By shakespeare - 8/11/2011 8:40:33 PM
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finimac2 (7/11/2011)
Looking at the penalty count may give a different impression 7 penalties vs 10 seems relatively balanced, what really killed us was that the majority of our penalties came on big plays were we had gained 10+ yards on a run or a pass. Can't solely balme the refs though and credit goes to the wildcats goodluck to them and the firebirds on Saturday.
A question I have though is what is the point of playing the whole season with 4 man crews then getting to the finals and playing with a 7 man crew?
finimac2, you get 5 man crews all year long, this is a referee (white cap), umpire, two linesman and a back judge. it could be that one game you had a 4 man crew because there simply wasnt anybody available, in fact there have been a few 6 or 7 man crews this year because the wildcats supplied more refs than were required, that may not have been for a glads game though
in any case rather than complain about the lack of referees on thebear why dont you do the level 0 online refs course (takes about 1 hour if you skip all the reading ) go learn how to ref for the junior season and then come referee again in seniors, its very easy to criticise referees until you become one, and you realise that its not as easy as it seems
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By shakespeare - 9/11/2011 7:57:09 AM
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sonicboom (8/11/2011)
TonyMartin (8/11/2011)
sonicboom (8/11/2011)
My apologies. I was just repeating something I was told. I guess there is a reason hearsay is not admitted in court.
However, I still stand by my comments on the quality of refereeing on the day. Having seen video of the game in the days since, I still dont understand how things can be missed not 3 yards from a referee in an are they are meant to be watching. On another occasion the officials spent a good 2 - 3 minutes discussing what the penalty yardage was for a PI penalty and they still got it wrong. Is this a good look for our game?Thanks for the apology. We can differ in our opinion, of course, and that's fine. Watching video after the fact is always a good idea, but of course that's not available at the time the call has to be made. If you can't understand how things can be missed, it probably means (and I say this with the utmost respect) that you haven't given it a try. Once again you are making comments about things you don't understand. The on-field discussion was NOT about the penalty for the PI, but whether the foul was there. If different officials have a different view because they have a different angle, sometimes a discussion is inevitable in order to get the right decision. This happens at all levels. It probably took about a minute, by my recollection. It's still not ideal if it goes longer than absolutely necessary, and it could have been done a bit quicker, and that's been discussed. The enforcement itself was spot on. 15 yards from the previous spot, and that's how it was marched off. If you think that's wrong, what penalty would you have enforced? I have no problem with the decision that was made, as I feel it was the correct call. The problem I have is with the officials not knowing where to place the ball. One official said 15 yards from the original spot, one said at the spot of the foul and one said fifteen from the foul. The fact they did not know the answer to this immediately, in my opinion isn't good enough. Yes the problem may be the difference between NCAA v NFL, but shouldn't the officials know what the yardage should be?
officials in this league are volunteers, apart from probably a few most dont know all of the rules, because we are volunteers, we dont have to do this but we choose to, because otherwise games could not be played, we do not know immediately what the rule is because this isnt the nfl or ncaa, refs in said leagues are highly paid people because that is their job, refs here get paid $20 a game, yes it would be nice if the refs knew immediately but we dont, but again id welcome you to come and show us how its done, instead of airing your complaints on the bear and seriously have you seen the size of the rule, its fucking massive, id post a link on here but im not sure if thats copyright infringement etc, but go have a look yourself and then come back and tell me i, as a ref i should know every rule in the game immediately off the top of my head
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By shakespeare - 11/11/2011 9:17:08 AM
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i dont care who goes on the all-stars team but a spot should be found for cents #97 grant clark i believe his name is
that guy was a trooper for a cents team which struggled all year, he played running back and linebacker unless im mistaken, two physically demanding positions, especially when all the cents do is run and all their defence did is stay on the field, he was the leading tackler going into week 7, not sure how that ended up but still no small feat not trying to trash the cents btw, just calling it like i saw it
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By Coach Shawn - 19/10/2011 5:39:13 AM
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I never mentioned a conspiracy theory. Just one coaches obvious passion and drive to win maybe clouding his ability to make a fair decision
Sonicboom,
I was told today by an individual on another team that someone (you) made some comments relating to my integrity.
Let’s get something straight, as an official or a coach I am not afforded the “anonymous” position you are in when you post on this forum. I have to live with my actions and my decisions regardless of whether they are liked, hated, right, wrong or otherwise. Everyone is afforded every liberty to have their own opinion and you can either like or dislike the way:- I run ACTG (President)
- Coach (Firebirds Head Coach)
- Officiate (Level 2 Official)
You are very correct when you state that I am passionate about my team, but more so I am even more passionate about my actions. I approach each of the jobs above with the intent of doing my best every time in isolation and without any consideration on how an action of one may impact on the others.
Your comments relating to my integrity overstep the boundary and are quite offensive. The play in question was a judgment I made on the day and even after reviewing the video would call it again. My training as an official teaches me correct positioning and my qualification (Level 2) demonstrates my knowledge of how I should be positioned and to enforce the rules, though it is important to highlight as a human one can make a mistake (though I would not change this call even in hindsight).
In my position I looped around behind the ball carrier I could clearly see the vicinity of opposing players in relation to the ball carrier. I further clarified other points with the nearest official to give a ruling within the rules as defined. In my opinion had the other player made an attempt at the ball carrier the ball carrier would have fallen across the goal line, however at the time of the jump the opposing player was a lot farther than what appears on a single viewpoint. We have multiple officials to ensure triangulation of plays for this exact reason, to ensure that multiple angles are covered. Had the nearest official had a different viewpoint (as mine was clear that the ball carrier did not require a leap) then the call may have been different. Utilising my view of players in the vicinity and that of the nearest official I made a judgment on the play.
Not that the score matters in applying the rules of the game but it was 30-6 with less than 4 minutes remaining in the game at the time of the infraction, it had no bearing on the game and has no bearing on the final standings. So when you want to talk about how I may be clouded in making a fair decision you should ensure you have your story straight. And here is a little tidbit of information that you would not know…I waived off a number of penalties against the Gladiators during the game (holding, unsportsmanlike, and gave a couple of warnings) so if I was looking for an advantage I could have taken the opportunity. Clearly I adjudicate impartially for the benefit of our game and for no other reason.
As far as my team goes, cheating to win or get ahead is not my game, as when you cheat you only lose. I prefer my team to earn everything they get in a win or a loss (and by previous examples I prefer they do it within the parameters the coaching staff sets for them not just because they can), so they either earn a Minor and/or Major Premiership by their own merits not the doing of someone who may have clouded judgment.
If you or anyone would like to discuss my integrity, then please feel free to approach me. Contrary to popular opinion I am approachable and would afford anyone the opportunity to discuss the matter.
Shawn
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By evanh - 11/11/2011 7:28:52 AM
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PhAntOM fLaG (10/11/2011)
ACT ALL STARS TEAM 2011
QB - WC #13
Personally I'd pick the QB with the best season rating. That'd be Gladiators #6, last time I checked the stats.
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By Youmustbeoutsideyourmind - 8/11/2011 7:05:05 PM
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Congratulations to the wildcats, you guys played a hell of a game and you deserved the win!As for the penalties...... That's just part of football if we played better there wouldn't have been any issues! And for whoever it is that's giving Geldy a hard time I think it's time for you to nut up or shut up...... You know where he will be sitting if you have drama's with anything he has said or done this season come over and have a chat to him in person like a man rather than talking smack on here! Good luck to the wildcats and firebirds this weekend, I'm hoping for an entertaining game!
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By Youmustbeoutsideyourmind - 11/11/2011 12:41:29 AM
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Gladiators 77....... Are you sure? Because he only played half the season and didn't do much when he was on the field.....
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By Youmustbeoutsideyourmind - 14/11/2011 4:28:47 PM
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Wild cats #18 is patch.....and he isn't a rookie! Rookie of the year would have to go to glads #25 I know he got suspended for the end of the season, but the dude is a gun! And MVP is a tough one Milne is without a doubt a candidate but there's also fin who broke his passing yard record by about 400 yards and stu Duncan was top point scorer in the regular season.... I know he didn't get as many yards as Milne but he scored 10 Tds in a team that passed the ball 5 times more than the firebirds!
And I agree don't get bullrush started on cut blocks again!!!
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By Youmustbeoutsideyourmind - 15/11/2011 1:15:17 AM
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It takes 10 other players to make a good player great..... Stu fumbled the ball a lot more than any other season I've seen him play and I think it's because he was trying to make things happen..... Because not all of the other 10 players where doing there jobs! And what makes Milne head and shoulders above the rest...... The yards he makes..... And what do they fall under? Stats..... Just sayin is all!
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By Youmustbeoutsideyourmind - 15/11/2011 1:18:50 AM
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And yes patch has played QB for the cats and about every other position.....
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By Youmustbeoutsideyourmind - 15/11/2011 3:45:16 AM
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Come on chimp name the OL individually....
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By Youmustbeoutsideyourmind - 19/11/2011 6:11:53 PM
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Don't know what rest of you think but the gladiators should be back in the canteen next year...... There food was made to look like it came from a gourmet restaurant, compared to the microwave meat pies that came out this year!
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By Youmustbeoutsideyourmind - 22/11/2011 8:43:54 AM
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Now now Shane no need to bring my girlfriend into this!
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By Youmustbeoutsideyourmind - 22/11/2011 8:56:34 PM
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Obviously the only Shane in the world is Shane Dixon....... I didn't say it was you did I? At what point did I say Shane Dixon?
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By Youmustbeoutsideyourmind - 22/11/2011 9:39:00 PM
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no need to get all worked up if it's not you......
And that's just silly..... Everyone knows crispin is the chimp!
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By Youmustbeoutsideyourmind - 15/12/2011 5:17:56 PM
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I like the idea of that..... But I'm with you Wally on the numbers issue!
And I'd have to say yes it is, they already have a league team in the indigenous all stars, and a union team in the New Zealand Maoris....
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By Dbronco - 3/11/2011 3:02:25 AM
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Hey guys, Just wanted to congratulate UC firebirds on the minor premiership and want to wish all three teams luck for the finals, I wish i could be down there to watch the games. with everything that has gone down in the past few weeks and all the controversy that has happened I still believe that the ACT Gridiron is gaining momentum in talent and in a great progression that will see them be a great contender in the next nationals and a force as a league as well.
Peace
Dbronco
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By Dbronco - 6/03/2012 8:59:53 AM
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Hey Phantom Flag and anyone else who wished to know a bit more about the new committee. my name is Jason Ray and I was voted in as vice president last tuesday. I have been involved with 5 seasons of juniors in the ACT from 2003-2007 and two seasons of seniors with the firebirds. I have been on committees since I was 18 and have just moved back from a two years in wollongong where I was completing a deploma of sports development and I was the Junior wollongong head coach who won the state championship last year. I was also the clubs Vice president for two years. the reason you have not hear from me or anyone else from the committee is because the AGM was last tuesday. With the games being washed out this week I myself have not got a chance to meet everyone in the league. You can rest assure that I will be coming around and introducing myself to all the clubs and their committees. I was actually coaching last weekend with the centurion juniors so if you feel as tho no one has made an effort I am more than happy to meet up and discuss some of the great ideas myself and the 2012/2013 ACTG executive have got in plan and if you have an input please feel free to direct them at a league meeting. posting things on this site about how the ACTG committee will do nothing is the exact thing that is wrong with this great sport and really what is the point! I will be wearing a USC red cap and coaching with the centurions so please feel free to come and put some of your ideas forward to help improve a league that shows so much potential.
I am very excited to be apart of this league and from my view just coming back into this league there is too much bickering. We are not children but we seem to act like them at times. There is so much football talent in the ACT and a lot of enthusiastic people in administration roles in I really do believe that with hard work and smart planning we can be one of the best football leagues in the country and really grow this amazing sport.
If anyone has any issue with this comment or has anything to add please feel free because at the end of the day this is my opinon and you can trust that for the next year or further I am vice president, I and the ACTG committee will be working hard to help this league grow in to its potential.
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By TonyMartin - 8/11/2011 11:34:45 PM
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sonicboom (8/11/2011)
Bullrush (8/11/2011)
sonicboom (8/11/2011)
shakespeare (8/11/2011)
finimac2 (7/11/2011)
Looking at the penalty count may give a different impression 7 penalties vs 10 seems relatively balanced, what really killed us was that the majority of our penalties came on big plays were we had gained 10+ yards on a run or a pass. Can't solely balme the refs though and credit goes to the wildcats goodluck to them and the firebirds on Saturday.
A question I have though is what is the point of playing the whole season with 4 man crews then getting to the finals and playing with a 7 man crew? finimac2, you get 5 man crews all year long, this is a referee (white cap), umpire, two linesman and a back judge. it could be that one game you had a 4 man crew because there simply wasnt anybody available, in fact there have been a few 6 or 7 man crews this year because the wildcats supplied more refs than were required, that may not have been for a glads game though in any case rather than complain about the lack of referees on thebear why dont you do the level 0 online refs course (takes about 1 hour if you skip all the reading ) go learn how to ref for the junior season and then come referee again in seniors, its very easy to criticise referees until you become one, and you realise that its not as easy as it seems Shakespeare. Yes it is very easy to criticise referees. You know what makes it even easier? When the head of referees in Australia is at the game along with the Australian Head Coach and they say that the standard of refereeing was terrible. They even went as far as to say it was one of the worst diplays they had seen. Makes it very easy to criticise I think How can that be?!?! GA put sooooooooo much effort and time and resource into the game how could this possibly be?!?!? Astonishing!! Oh well....I guess we should just all pack this gridiron thing up and then GA can put all that massive resource and energy somewhere else. Who gives two flying hoots WTF anyone from GA thinks........not me - if you couldn't tell. Its attitudes like yours that are ruining the game in this country. I played other codes of football before finding gridiron and I know for a fact in those other codes that if the head of referee's thinks they had a poor performance then its a long time before they get to referee again. These guys are doing the capital bowl the following week WTF. With people like you around and attitudes like yours this sport will never grow. Whether you like it or not GA is responsible for the sport in this country and for the standards it is run by. Do you think we would just be better having a bunch of state leagues with no affiliation to each other or accountability to anyone. I bet that would help the sport grow. I think the league would be better off without people like you. Some off us love this game, are passionate about it and want to see it grow and thats not gonn happen with this bush league mentality your coming with. I've played against you and I have watched you play. and from what I have seen you play the game hard and enjoy it, but god help us all if you ever try to get into running a club or league because you will set the sport back 10 - 15 years
I wouldn't normally contribute to this forum, but I have been alerted to the above comment by a colleague (the comment about the "head of referees") and I need to set the record straight.
If the above comment is referring to the President of the Australian Gridiron Officials Association, Shaun Dove, he was on the officiating crew for that game. I'm pretty sure he never criticised the performance of his own crew. I'm pretty sure it was referring to me, as one of the senior officials in Australia, and as the AGOA rep on the GA Board. And it that is the case, it is an ABSOLUTE LIE and it is a DISGRACE that such a comment would be placed in any public forum.
I would NEVER criticise an officiating crew outside officiating circles. In this case the crew did a GOOD job. I was officially there to critique them, and I told them that they had done a good job during and after the game. The implication of the above comment is that both I and the Australian Head Coach were critical of the officiating. I have no idea what his thoughts were, and I can't speak for him. But the comments implicitly attributed to me are a complete fabrication and the person who fabricated them - whether that is the person making the comment above or the person who gave him that information, if that is the case - has no credibility whatsoever.
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By TonyMartin - 9/11/2011 12:04:43 AM
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sonicboom (8/11/2011)
My apologies. I was just repeating something I was told. I guess there is a reason hearsay is not admitted in court.
However, I still stand by my comments on the quality of refereeing on the day. Having seen video of the game in the days since, I still dont understand how things can be missed not 3 yards from a referee in an are they are meant to be watching. On another occasion the officials spent a good 2 - 3 minutes discussing what the penalty yardage was for a PI penalty and they still got it wrong. Is this a good look for our game?
Thanks for the apology.
We can differ in our opinion, of course, and that's fine. Watching video after the fact is always a good idea, but of course that's not available at the time the call has to be made. If you can't understand how things can be missed, it probably means (and I say this with the utmost respect) that you haven't given it a try.
Once again you are making comments about things you don't understand. The on-field discussion was NOT about the penalty for the PI, but whether the foul was there. If different officials have a different view because they have a different angle, sometimes a discussion is inevitable in order to get the right decision. This happens at all levels. It probably took about a minute, by my recollection. It's still not ideal if it goes longer than absolutely necessary, and it could have been done a bit quicker, and that's been discussed. The enforcement itself was spot on. 15 yards from the previous spot, and that's how it was marched off. If you think that's wrong, what penalty would you have enforced?
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By PhAntOM fLaG - 9/11/2011 1:30:22 AM
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Welcome to the 'Phenom' that is . . . . . .
ThE - PhAnToM - fLag
The Phantom is not here to Replace the VOID of BANANNAS that ExISt from 'THE CHIMP'
But merely to OPEN the Window of Courage - That is called - SMACK MOUTH FOOTBALL.
2011 - SEASON REVIEW
CENTURIONS - (Wooden Spoon)
With much anticipated hype from back to back Season Champion - Junior wins, the Senior Team looked looked set to put a steak in the Titles for ACT Gridiron Glory - and set ALIGHT A BLAZE OF PURPLE GLORY ACROSS THE WODEN SKIES.
The only thing that came close to lighting anything up was the smell of burning PURPLE CROCS- - pacing the sidelines and the WIFF of next weeks, ever drawing near loss. With so much potential the EVER so promising PURPLE PEOPLE EATERS - ate nothing but humble pie from such HIGH HOPES. The CENTS looked lost at times, and struggled to get out of GEAR - 1st gear that is.
If nothing has come from this season for the CENTS, then at least they DONT have to practice their GOAL LINE D or their KICK OFFS - they did it all 2012 SEASON.
HGHLIGHTS - having the same QB x2 in a Game
LOWLIGHTS - having the same QB x2 in a Game
ASTRO'S
The Astro - story is much like Science itself - if I am correct in my LUNAR STUDY 1806 then the discovery of ASTEROIDS in the Solar System is like a RASH FROM A GOOD NIGHT OUT. - big, red, all over the dam place, and up ur arse quiker than your WEEKEND BOSS.
ASTEROIDS - SERVE NO PURPOSE - they merely clutter the galaxy and get in the way of the REAL BIG PLAYERS (Sun, Jupiter) playing.
NOW WAIT - before any ASTRO' boy lovers get on here and has a HOOT - the ASTEROIDS did serve us 1 PURPOSE - They killed all the DINOSAURS & the JURASIC PARK MOSQUITOS that would'v plagued my ANGLO SAXON arse.
The Astro's after a long time in the JUNIOR SEASON CANTEEN (TC Double Chin) they looked set to have a strong performance on the back of some Experienced players - but with a few injuries, a makeshift LINE, and a BEARD that TC has been growing since he was 7, has yet again been nothing but a RASH for the ACTG SEASON. Needless to say the WHITE & BLUE will need to check their stocks over the summer & see if they can withstand without a JNR PROGRAMME.
HGHLIGHTS - T'C speed around the park
LOWLIGHTS - T'C speed around the park
TORNADOES
Who would've thought you could play a TORNADOE TEAM without BIGFIN or ZERKLER. This Game shows you that NO 1 is INDESPENSIBLE - This team should name themselves the 'Tornadoes WITHOUT u know WHO' -
wow what a great year from the TORNADOES great running game, stiff defense, a semi-consistent Passing game AND who knows with a couple of wins MID-season they could have matched up AGAINST the 'u know WHO' in the Semis.
YES i may be a little bit bias towards this team like 'Mr Shue is to his GLEE CLUB' - but hey I like man a with curly hair. I can't help, but picturing birds laying sulfurous eggs in there and chirping away to the end of a WALT DISNEY classic as the credits roll. x1 thing is sure - they have alot of 'OL FOLK' in there squad and will need to think about the future of their 'SULFUROUS EGGS CLUB'.
HGHLIGHTS - LOOSING 'YOU KNOW WHO'
LOWLIGHTS - LOOSING 'YOU KNOW WHO'
WILDCATS
Now if you had told me at the start of the YEAR, that the WILDCATS would be playing in thIS years FINAL - I would of slapped you sensless with a RUBBER CHICKEN - drank milk from a MOTHERLESS GOAT and had SHAWN WILLIS'S BABY singing 'IM IN LOVE WITH A STRIPPER'
now really - WHO are these people, WHAT drugs are they on, and WHERE do I get them - VIAGRA is so EXPENSIVE NOW.
The gradual rise of the 'unkown' with this team seems to have left a sour taste in alot of peoples mouths - with some close losses, and nothing really happening for them during mid season - have slayed THE DRAGON. With some individual brilliances in their semi - some may think that this is as far as it can go for this RED DEVIL TEAM.
HGHLIGHTS - 'Dragon Tranqulisers are for Sale'
LOWLIGHTS - 'Dragon Tranqulisers don't work on Firebirds'
GLADIATORS
With so much potential, Senior Players, STRIKEPOWER and BEEF (I mean this in the nicest way #99) WTF happened, submitting teams in deadlocks, chokerholds, armbars and TAP OUTS - during mid season - how did it all fall apart, MUCH could be deliberated and sifted as to why the 'wheels fell off the G-TRAIN' but nobody knows exept those 'THAT HOLD THE REIGNS' over this BEAST.
Now with the 2011 season over without a chance to RECTIFY last years LOSS to the FB, the team are back to the DRAWING BOARD.
And if there management are anything to go BY - we will need all the Chalk & blackboards of the 60's, 70's & 80's - because there ain't enough WHITEBOARDS in Canberra to draw up NEXT YEARS PLAY BOOK
HGHLIGHTS - Recruitment Scouts got 'HIM'
LOWLIGHTS - Did they also get 'HIS CURSE ??'
FIREBIRDS
Now with the neo-nazism regime dead and buried in the 1930's (I think- Hmm maybe the 1940's . It was good to see the extra effort that this WELL DRILLED RIECH, running extra laps after a tough loss (didums).
This team is a force to be reckoned with, in particular due to the fact that they lead the League in most stats across the board. Running yards to Return yards, to Coachings Insults like - 'You pack of Morons' - 'Poison' means stay the fk away from you it.
There sometimes 'OTP' (over the top) antics can be seen as 'OUT OF PLACE' - like 'SKINNY KIWIS - HARD WORKING P.SERVANTS - and a Quiet coach on a 'PhAnToM fLaG'
Suffice to say - that with some close wins this year by the FB - on paper they look like they have the goods to seal the deal - they do posess the man for the 'JOB', or 'Milne' he run away with it.
HGHLIGHTS - 'Running Laps teaches you how to Run Laps
LOWLIGHTS - 'Running Laps doesn't teach you how to Run Routes'
As another season closes on this Dark Chapter of LIFE IN THE GRIDIRON LANE - What questions are there for the future of this sport.
CAN THE WILDCATS DO IT
WILL THE ASTRO'S SURVIVE
WILL THE CHIMP RETURN
CAN THE IMPERIAL MARCH BE PLAYED BEFORE EVERY FB GAME
WILL THE SEASON START/FINISH EARLIER LONGER
WHO IS THE 'PhAnTOm fLaG'
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By PhAntOM fLaG - 10/11/2011 7:45:06 PM
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ACT ALL STARS TEAM 2011
QB - WC #13
RB - FB #22
FB - WC #22
WR - TRNDOES #18, GLADS Junior Island/polynesian guy (sorry dont know your no.)
TE - FB #18
LT/RT - GLD #77, TORN #78
LG/RG - GLD #54, FB #78
C - GLD #42 (Larry Stevenson)
I don't know defense too much, so I'll leave this for someone else - there seems to be an over emphasis on GLADS players - but they are big - and most of them are on the line.
I don't know all there names so if you wanna chip in, that would be great.
DEFENSE
FS -
SS -
CB -
OLB/MLB -
LE/RE
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By PhAntOM fLaG - 14/11/2011 9:51:06 AM
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@Flemdogg- 'Cut Blocks' NOT THIS THREAD again
Maybe you should ask Jeremy 'The Bionic Man' Milne if he liked his Tackle-Cut Block that ruined his playing in the second half(hmmm)
Congrats on the FB's for their awesome win. Pitty the Glads didnt shut their 'Offense' out as they have lead the stats in that Dpt. this year! Why on Earth didn't the wildcats play No #32 more on Defense as was mentioned by some of the ever cheering somewhat 'Happy' (drunk) spectators on my right. He put some devastating tackle in. Bullrush I think if its you WC #22 great 'Truck Stick Run' all in all great Season- lets see how many teams will fill there Junior rosters for next year.
MVP of the Year player has to go to FB #22 & Rookie of the year WC #18, Coach of the Year WC J. Luds (how can any team go from 0 - Finalist's in 1 Year, this has to be a feat (Close 2nd FB Shaun with 6 from 7 wins in a Final by Coach J. Roe's arithmatic)
Finally . . . Chimp wea art thou? Post season Review
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By PhAntOM fLaG - 15/11/2011 12:55:07 AM
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@ Youmustbeoutsideyourmind apologies WC no# 37 as he caught everything but std's in a brothel - was Patch their QB?
definitely Glads #25 is an athlete and would be close, but having the suspension over his antics might count against him in the public standings.
Wouldn't pic Fin unfortunately - reminds me of a Brett Farve - sorry Packers fans - but with all the stats in the world - he ain't won a Ring! hats off to the big guy but big time situations come from big time players & they should have won their SEMI - but didn't and as a QB he has failed at those crucial times in as many different teams - nothing against him personally
But I get the sense that MVP should go to a player who stands out head and shoulders from the rest, not only in their position but across every position in the league and unfortunately. . . it would have to go to milne.
GLD #7 - Stu - definite candadite but again - big time situations need big time players - failed at last years final and again at the semi-finals, with the amount of fumbles he had - hmm not sure about your stats but would be good to see what they are.
I don't like the system of MVP the league currently has - they may need to look at how other codes do it - I like how the AFL runs the 'Brownlow' medal is run - but our league wouldn't be able to run it. does anyone know how the NRL or the ARU run theirs?
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By PhAntOM fLaG - 16/11/2011 12:25:28 AM
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Bullrush (15/11/2011)
How about a guy who has been with 2 different teams and within 2 seasons, taken both teams from bottom of the league to the Finals?
That guy would be my first pick in any All Star team.
And who might that be???? J. Ludsvington - don't know if Coaches can get MVP?
Love Coach Hollywood idea - imagine having the best ACTG players all turn up on Sat evening and having a good ol smack at each other. hmmmm sounds fun (to watch that is).
About that Coach Hollywood when does the ACT Monarchs representative season start?
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By PhAntOM fLaG - 5/03/2012 11:37:22 PM
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Too True Hollywood
I too, am very keen to see what this NEW TEAM is like, to say the LEAST I am very keen to see what the NEW 2012/13 EXEC is going to bring to the sport. . . . probably nothing
Jury is out on that one, To see one name going for all the positions and not get one of them strikes me as 'ODD' - is there a undergoing theme here that I am not privy too?
Heres another thing, who the HELL are the x2 new people on the Board, never HEARD OF THEM, NEVER SEEN THEM, PROBABLY WON'T EVEN see them through out the season. (Were they their for the JUNIOR SEASON OPENER????? hmmm don't think so, did they introduce themeselves to other club members, are they a presence in and around the clubs, asking players/coaches/officials what we could do to make it better, hmmmmm)
I love the Junior Timing (GAME CLOCK) system, a thought might be to Try in the Senior Season?
Well at least for now the Junior season looks well under away, hope they get alot of support as the sport will quickly die just like any chance of having a decent Summer this year - (with all this rain you'd think we were in Queensland).
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By The Beats - 16/11/2011 12:34:09 AM
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PhAntOM fLaG (15/11/2011)
Bullrush (15/11/2011)
How about a guy who has been with 2 different teams and within 2 seasons, taken both teams from bottom of the league to the Finals?
That guy would be my first pick in any All Star team.And who might that be???? J. Ludsvington - don't know if Coaches can get MVP? Love Coach Hollywood idea - imagine having the best ACTG players all turn up on Sat evening and having a good ol smack at each other. hmmmm sounds fun (to watch that is). About that Coach Hollywood when does the ACT Monarchs representative season start?
He means Tim McArthur.
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By Tablature - 30/08/2011 4:19:02 AM
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Its on Cody!!
-Tabs
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By Tablature - 20/10/2011 12:39:15 AM
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For starters, I think that Shawn's call in the game on the weekend was spot on (I was one of the people chasing the ball carrier ) but that is beside the point. Not sure that people coming on this forum and complaining about referee's decisions has ever done any good to anyone ESPECIALLY when they question the integrity of the referee in question. This is completely out of line. Shawn has probably been the best and the fairest ref that I have experienced playing and due to the amount of work he puts into this league on a weekly basis, does not deserve this kind of disrespect. Good referees are a precious commodity, lets try and keep them on the field as long as we can!
On another note- cheers to the glads for a tough game on the weekend. Really felt like both teams gave their all and although the result didn't go our way, it was one of the most enjoyable and competitive games I've ever been involved in. Keep it up boys!
Tabs
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By T-ROCKU - 7/09/2011 7:00:33 PM
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Jump in on the cut block discussion, because it would appear many are uninformed of how to do a legal cut block. The initial contact has to be above the knee, anything below the knee is illegal, and will not work unless the defensive lineman is a real penetrator who plays high. The block starts at the midlle thigh, with the player using their shoulder not their helmet (that would be a spear) and then the player can move down, thus the knee injury risk is not as high as thought, a properly exceuted cut block is a low risk block unless some tool try's to jump you, and the injury risk to the player performing the block is reduced.
It is not an easy block to master and those that think you just dive at a guys legs are sadly uninformed, and that sort of block should be flagged, as that is high risk to the player perfiorming the block and the player recieving the block. making a legal block illegal in our game is a mistake, instead players should be coached to block correctly, if you don't allow the block how do you expect a centre to block a playside 3-tech when you pull your playside gaurd, you can't simple, why should we limit what our offence can do because we coaches don't know how to teach the correct technique.
Will you ban driving your hands onto a players hips as they try to swim you as well because it also puts a lot of pressure on the defenders kneeand effectively cuts there legs out???
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By T-ROCKU - 7/09/2011 9:15:47 PM
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to answere your question thats right don't target knees and the block should be with the body in front but coming across, like you would in tackling technique. You need to be in front tof the player or if he doesnt penetrate hard then you are left missing the block and the defender can make a play, if you are in front even though you may be on the ground he at least has to go around you.
I would suggest it is the execution that is wrong. I have taught Colt level players how to cut, by using a simple blocking sheild held at thigh level, I then allow the player to stay low in their stance (take an outside zone step towards the defender, as we don't want depth on the block) and drive their shoulder into the furthest leg from thembag (as the coach steps forwrad) with the head on the players upfield side of the body, then keep moving their feet across the defender.
I allow the players to do this against a coach at training and I have never been injured or the coaches that help to do this drill. It is all about the initial contact point. If you already coach your guys to hold like mad and initiate contact with their hands then get the backside hand to drive the defenders hip first or as part of the motion depends how quick they are.
I find mid thigh level effective for me and the players I have coached.
Here is a quick thing i found on the internet that gives coaching points, you will likely have to alter to suit your own players abilities, but it too states mid thigh heights for initial contact.
Wartburg College Cutting Technique: Coaching Point #1 – Run to toes of defender
When cutting, it is common for an offensive player to attempt the cut too soon. One of the main coaching points we use is having our offensive player run on the toes of the defender before he attempts a cut. The term “run to the toes of the defender” gives our players a mental picture of how close they need to be before they attempt to cut. When we arrive at a defender, we want our players to cut through the defender. The offensive player is not finished when he gets to the toes of the defender. “Run through him, not just to him,” is a common phrase we use to emphasize how close we want to be before we cut a defender.
Coaching Point #2 – Same Leg, Same Arm
The second coaching point we use for the cut block is that whichever leg of the defender we are trying to cut, we want to use the same arm. For example, if we want to cut a defender’s right leg, our offensive player should use his right arm to do so. This technique allows our offensive player to get his body in front of the defender, between the defender and the ball, and puts him in the best position to complete the cut block.
Coaching Point #3 – Fireman’s Carry
A common problem with the cut block is that offensive players do not aim high enough up on the defender’s leg. We want the arm and shoulder to strike the defender in the upper and inner thigh. We also believe that if the fist and arm are violently ripped through the leg of the defender, we will generate more force to knock the defender down. Because the majority of our players are from Iowa, many of them either wrestled in high school or understand wrestling terminology. The fireman’s carry is very similar to what we are trying to accomplish. That image and term have helped many of our players understand this phase of the cut block.
Coaching Point #4 - Cut and Crawl
The last coaching point we use is to finish the cut block by bear crawling up the field. Often, after the player has attempted a cut block, he will simply lie there. If we do not cut the defender to the ground, we want to maintain contact with the defender’s lower body; we want to continue to be a nuisance by bear crawling into the defender’s legs. When we do get the defender knocked down, bear crawling through the legs of the defender makes it more difficult for him to get back onto his feet. Ultimately we want to crawl and work our body up field so that the defender has to avoid us opposite of the way the ball carrier is trying to gain yards. “Make the defender go underneath, not over the top of you,” is a common coaching point.
Setting Up And Implementing \The Cutting Circuit
We start every practice with a tempo period. During this period, we want to set a fast tempo and high energy level for our practice. It is during our tempo period that we typically will put our entire offense through our cutting circuit. We do not do this circuit every day but we use it often during preseason camp as well as throughout the season whenever we feel we need more practice at the cut block. First, we divide our offensive coaches into three groups to run the drills. Secondly, we divide our players into three groups. Our three groups are broken down into wide receivers, running backs and tight ends, and offensive lineman. Each group will go through the three stations and rotate on the command of a coach.
Cutting Drills Used In The Circuit Station #1 – The Straight-On Cut Drill
The first emphasis of the straight on cut is to ensure that the players are running to the toes of the defender before the cut block is performed. The second emphasis of this drill is to make sure that the offensive player is cutting with the correct “same arm same leg technique” explained previously. For the straight on cut, position an agile bag five yards from the offensive player directly in front of him. The offensive player will start in his normal stance. The bag holder needs to hold the top of the bag and represents the leg that our player would be trying to strike in the block (See Diagram 1).
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By observer - 8/09/2011 9:15:16 AM
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Blocking below the waist, lets get the terminology right. NCAA 2011 - 2012 Rulebook http://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/FR12.pdf
Block below the waist, page FR-28 -
"Below Waist
ARTICLE 2. a. A block below the waist is a block in which the force of the initial contact is below the waist of an opponent who has one or both feet on the
ground. When in question, the contact is below the waist (Rule 9-1-6). b. A blocker who makes contact above the waist and then slides below the
waist has not blocked below the waist. If the blocker first contacts the opposing player’s hands at the waist or above, it is a legal “above the waist’’
block (Rule 9-1-6)."
Ref to page FR-84 for the legalities behind it and when a block below the waist is and isnt illegal. Essentially only lineman/running backs/line backers can cut, and only if they start the play in a restricted area and only if the block is either north/south OR when the blocker is between the ball carrier and blocking towards the side line (ie. towards the NEAREST sideline, or an inside out direction). Any contact made BELOW the waist in these situations is legal, so anything below the waist is legal (even if contact is made at the knees/shins/ankles).
Chop block, page FR-28
Chop Block
ARTICLE 3. A chop block is a high-low or low-high combination block by any two players against an opponent (not the ball carrier) anywhere on the field, with or without a delay between blocks; the “low” component is at the opponent’s thigh or below (A.R. 9-1-10-I-V).
Ref to page FR-85, you cannot have any combination of a high-low or low-high block at anytime. However a high-high or low-low combination IS legal.
You make reference to the term "spear tackle" no idea what you are referring to.
Are you referring to "leading with the crown of the helmet" (formerly spearing)? Or are you referring to the rugby definition of a tackle that goes past the horizontal? As they both have different rulings.
Targeting/Leading with the helmet (page FR-83) is illegal at all times, this rule was bought in to protect the offender (the player leading with the helmet) as neck injuries occur when making contact with your head down. This was NOT to protect the player who was getting hit/blocked.
"Spear tackle" or tackle going beyond the horizontal, IS a legal tackle. There is no reference at all in the NCAA rulebook at all to this, the only reference to "tackling" is on page FR36, which simply states "Tackling is grasping or encircling an opponent with a hand(s) or arm(s)." The term "spear tackle" it is a term that is used by the rugby codes to define this kind of tackle, and isnt used in American Football. It is also similar to the fact that taking out a WR's/RB's/DB's'LB's legs whilst they are airbourne catching a ball IS legal, there are many videos you can watch on youtube.
For a sport that has been around for over a century, I am pretty certain the NCAA rules committee know by now what is "safe" and what isnt. Rules are changed, and emphasis is given on safety issues that o\arise each year (every rule is reviewed every year). So if it wasnt safe to do something, they would quickly make it illegal.
Educate yourself on the rules before you start making something up to try and get your point across. Use the correct terms and people may understand what your talking about.
Why do we not wear leather helmets? Simple answer, safety gear was developed AROUND the rules, the rules werent adjusted around the equipment. When something was determined to be unsafe, they have tried to improve/implement equipment to protect yourself and if that failed they have changed the rules. And on that thought, what is there to prevent your thighs/hips/knees from sustaining impact injuries? You know, those things in your pants that some of us dont want to wear. But probably the best protection at all, is to train and learn how to defeat the block successfully, a player will usually only allow himself to be cut once or twice before he is wise to it and will protect himself and shed the block successfully. If you dont know how to defend the block, ask your coach, or ask any coach in the league and they can tell you.
And we all know, a badly executed "block below the waist" is a VERY easy block to defend against.
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By Wikus - 12/09/2011 11:25:26 PM
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Step-up Benny Flynn. This guy will be a great running back over the next few seasons.
I agree, Chimp should keep an eye out for this guy.
Also, I understand it's a hard job doing the stats, but I think we should have a few more permanent people on the stats team. Apparently 6 tackles were made last week by a guy who wasn't even there! (... And they were MINE!)
Feel free to discuss.
@Lemonaide
I understand your concern for the receivers and I am more than familiar with the crown of the Tony the Terrible (Or as Chimp has recently dubbed him "Two Chins") and have even had my share of late hits, cheap hits, concussions and the like.
Hollywood is 100% correct in saying that if the receiver isn't maintaining full awareness when cutting through traffic before taking the ball or the QB is feeling sadistic enough to make you reach for it then the safety is not to blame at all, in fact props to him for doing his job.
That being said, there have been many instances in which the ball has gone dead completely and our fine men in the secondary have felt the need to clean up an unsuspecting receiver in what I refer to the ref's "Blind spot" (Which, depending on the ref, can take up a good 97% of the field.)
I think the next meeting, this should be brought up with the refs (I haven't attended any meetings, so I apologise if this is the likeliness to a broken record.)
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By Wikus - 20/09/2011 1:07:34 AM
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The issue of course being that if we were to push the season any further back, we would have less rugby players and if we were to bring it forward, we would be cutting it pretty fine on the christmas season and Juniors games.
The league would be much more enjoyable and worth the money if there were three rounds of Round-Robin instead of the two. I understand that there are other sports that may wish to use the oval, as well as having to pay for the maintenance and having an extended break for the Christmas season, but I feel that the $300ish that it costs to play the season is almost not worth playing the twelve-ish weeks let alone six.
Unfortunately the ACT Gridiron league isn't exactly a priority sport and use of a sports oval for a full saturday for more than twelve weeks might be a bit too much to ask for while we still only have six teams and a 1/4 filled stand.
In the least harsh way possible, of course.
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By Wikus - 4/10/2011 1:16:06 AM
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Well, the forum seems to have been deceased for almost a week due to the bye or toxic fumes from Mitchell claiming the lives of our beloved posters.
Upcoming round preview anybody?
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By Wikus - 14/10/2011 10:43:06 PM
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Pretty sure the games are tomorrow.
Hurry up with the review Chimp, I want something to chuckle about on kickoff.
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By Wikus - 14/10/2011 11:47:04 PM
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Shake it (shake it!)
Shake it (shake it!)
Shake that shiny butt, Baboon got back!
But seriously, where's my review?
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By Wikus - 19/10/2011 8:55:12 PM
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Just a little off-topic,
A few of the guys on our team have been able to organise a section for the chronicle which would involve having to watch all 3 games every week (sigh...)
I was wondering if any of you know where I might be able to get my hands on a copy of the sheets with the player's names and corresponding jersey numbers to add a little more personalisation. Maybe Crispin?
Thanks a heap.
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By Wikus - 9/11/2011 10:49:50 AM
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Dear Mr. Sonicboom,
I'm sorry to hear that you are unhappy with the standard of refereeing in the game between the Glads and the Wildcats, I'm also sorry to hear that your accusation that the Australian Coach and Head Umpire both disapproved of the umpiring fell through as well, I really am.
To be honest, I'm usually the first to put shit on an umpire for a bad game, but this game I was genuinely quite impressed by the effort of all umpires involved and I'm sure just about everybody else agrees.
Could it be because they had more personnel and conclusively more sets of eyes to see more problems? Too right!
Does this mean that we should complain about not having the full 7 each and every week? Good GOD no.
I'm sure you're sick of reading this, but I don't think it's actually registering as a simple solution: If not having an additional umpire is something that you seriously consider to be a major problem with this league, GO DO THE OFFICIATING COURSE AND DO IT YOUR-FREAKING-SELF. You've accused Bullrush of having an attitude that will lead to a decline in this league.
You should lead by example.
Shakespeare said it himself, it is easy to criticise.
"Critics are men who watch a battle from a high place then come down and shoot the survivors"
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By Oops - 5/11/2011 11:27:01 PM
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The Chimp...aka daddy...aka.................................Geld..........................your now team dates...hates...sorry mates, should have a look back over the posts since you started commenting on the Glads...I find it real funny that the glads biggest and harshist critic (I am sure thatyou would have been heard by many saying that the comp would be better without the cheating glads...although you seem to have changed your tune...and now the way you play the game just to fit in better...) now plays for them...speaks aces for your personality and respect.
People should really watch what they say...and who to...
Please dont let this stop your posts old chimpy...they are freaken funny and everyone should just take them with a nit from your head (with a grain of salt).
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