Goal Talk Forums v4.1.4Bear Pit Forumshttp://www.thebear.com.au/forums@thebear.com.auSat, 11 Sep 2010 07:25:39 GMT20http://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspx&quot;I am sure it is a shock and a surprise to some at this time, Taylor said of his release. But I am just grateful they gave me the chance instead of dragging their feet in an attempt to trade me or something like that. Now I have the chance to go to free agency for the first times in my career, ever. I was excited by the.Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:03:04 GMTgarrymodeshttp://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspxMaybe the KC Chiefs traded Tony G so they got something for him before he retires or maybe he just wanted out to go to a team that is on the up, rather than stay with a team that does nothing every year! Being a future Hall-of-Famer means very little to the players old team when the player is near the end of their career. </P><P>Joe Montana, ended his career as a Chief. </P><P>Emmitt Smith was a Cardinal (re-signed with the Cowboys to retire a Cowboy).</P><P>Deion Sanders, retired as a Raven.</P><P>Brian Dawkins, will retire as a Bronco after 13 years service for the Eagles.</P><P>The list can go on, sometimes it's just time to move, for your career or the future of the team.Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:06:00 GMTMad Philly Fan!http://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspxKS Chiefs, WHAT ARE YOU DOING???? Trading your future Hall of Fame Tight End Gonzales to the Falcons for a 2010 2nd round pick?? WTF??</P><P>Aaron Curry saying he'll take less money to go the the Lions as the #1 pick?? Career suicide buddy, you'd better pray that the Lions take Stafford instead of youFri, 24 Apr 2009 08:41:41 GMTMatt54http://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspx[quote][b]Mad Philly Fan! (21/04/2009)[/b][hr]The final piece of the "Greatest Show on Turf" has now left St. Louis, WR Torry Holt has signed a 3 year deal with the Jaguars.[/quote]</P><P>Good deal for the Jags, now they can pick up Sanchez in the draft and have a decent run at an offence. I don't understand why soo many teams are focused on having a younger roster, they're giving up their best players. The successful teams have it all right. Keep your vets until you can get a rookie trained up to replace them.Wed, 22 Apr 2009 14:41:37 GMTMatt54http://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspxThe final piece of the "Greatest Show on Turf" has now left St. Louis, WR Torry Holt has signed a 3 year deal with the Jaguars.Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:46:52 GMTMad Philly Fan!http://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspxActually, the trade details are as follows (according to Larry Meyer of the Chicago Bears):</P><P>1. Kyle Orton now a Bronco</P><P>2. 2009 &amp; 2010 1st Round draft pics</P><P>3. 2009 Third Round draft pic (obviously not the compensatory pics awarded)</P><P>This leaves the Bears with a Frnachise QB with 3 years left on his contract and still maintain their 2nd round pic to possibly grab a quality receiver.Sun, 05 Apr 2009 13:20:36 GMTMatt54http://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspxwtf?Sun, 05 Apr 2009 00:53:33 GMTRoyhttp://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspxcome guys u all know that the Panthers kick *** in the nfl & the Eagles kick *** in the sa league :D & yes i know im a girl......i was brought up with this sport as well as rugby so yer.....who gives a flying monkey about the other football teams lolSat, 04 Apr 2009 06:23:12 GMTCUBIE #11http://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspxBears gave up Kyle Orton, 2 1st round picks &amp; 2 2nd round picks!</P><P>The Bears have also picked up always injured OT Orlando Pace from the Rams (or should I say from the Rams I.R. list!)Sat, 04 Apr 2009 01:40:01 GMTMad Philly Fan!http://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspxCUTLER NOW A BEAR!!!! Blockbuster trade! Bears finally have some stability at QB. Look out NFC North, the Bears are on a roll.Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:38:12 GMTMatt54http://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspxCutler is still being a little bitch.Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:18:25 GMTRoyhttp://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspxLT stays in San Diego. Not sure I agree with that one, word around S D is that LT would have had to take a pay cut to stay.</P><P>Definately think the Chargers are now concentrating on Sproles as the lead RB for their immediate future.</P><P>LT should have taken up Brees' offer and gone down south to the big easy.Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:05:18 GMTMatt54http://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspxGood move by Buffalo. They need a top flight receiver, and TO always plays nice the first year. Question is, at 35 - can he still be considered top flight? Maybe more like second threat with Evans there.</P><P>To wit:</P><P>Combined Super Bowl appearances &amp; titles for Chad (Ocho Cinco) Johnson, Randy Moss, TO = 2-0</P><P>Combined Super Bowl appearances &amp; titles for Hines Ward, Torry Holt, Marvin Harrison - 5-4</P><P>Anyone else notice how the ones that just shut up and play tend to win titles? Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:32:38 GMTOlderDanhttp://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspxby the end of the season, I'm going out on a limb and stating that T.O will be re-unemployed cause the Bills won't re-sign him.</P><P>GET THE HINT T.O, GROW UP, YOU'RE 35 FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!Mon, 09 Mar 2009 08:11:46 GMTMatt54http://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspxTerrell Buffalowens.Mon, 09 Mar 2009 00:50:02 GMTRoyhttp://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspx[quote][b]Roy (6/03/2009)[/b][hr]two words: Al. Davis.[/quote]</P><P>Come on Roy, we both know that TO isn't that washed up. The Raiders only like recruiting players that have passed their prime.</P><P>Given the Vikings big run for housh, maybe TO will cool off in Minnesota.</P><P>Then again, look what happened to Joe Horn, I know the circumstances are different (Horn asking to leave), but Horn hasn't played since the Falcons let him go in 07.Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:05:28 GMTMatt54http://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspxtwo words: Al. Davis.Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:55:01 GMTRoyhttp://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspx[quote][b]Roy (6/03/2009)[/b][hr]BIGGITY BAM!<BR><BR>[url]http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80f15db7&amp;template=without-video-with-comments&amp;confirm=true[/url]<BR><BR>[img]http://i39.tinypic.com/34o7p0j.gif[/img][/quote]</P><P>Wonder who will take the gamble on TO now?? San Fran have had enough, Phillie won't have hime back, Dolphins, Pats &amp; Cheifs don;t want him. I'm sure that the Broncos won;t want him, he's just burnt too many bridges &amp; pissed off too many people. He's a great receiver but is the off field drama worth it??Fri, 06 Mar 2009 10:55:39 GMTMatt54http://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspxroy williams (safety) also released...<br><br>[url]http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80f18c06&template=without-video-with-comments&confirm=true[/url]Fri, 06 Mar 2009 10:24:37 GMTRoyhttp://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspxBIGGITY BAM!<br><br>[url]http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80f15db7&template=without-video-with-comments&confirm=true[/url]<br><br>[img]http://i39.tinypic.com/34o7p0j.gif[/img]Fri, 06 Mar 2009 00:22:03 GMTRoyhttp://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspxLewis just re-signed with Ravens. Great news for the RavensThu, 05 Mar 2009 09:35:27 GMTMatt54http://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspxApologies, Bucs signed WardWed, 04 Mar 2009 10:05:30 GMTMatt54http://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspxWarner's agent has gone on the record to AZ stating that if Boldin is re-signed he will knock down his asking price. San Fran did offer him a contract reportadly worth 24M for 2 years with 14M guaranteed. Great deal for Kurt, but he obviously is not impressed with the '9ers. Can you blame the guy? Warner's agent is stating that he will knock down his contract by up to $1M per year if Boldin is re-signed. Desperation on behalf of Warner?Wed, 04 Mar 2009 09:58:21 GMTMatt54http://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspx[quote][b]Matt54 (3/03/2009)[/b][hr]Housh a great fit for Hawks providing Hasslebeck can get his game in gear and stay healthy. Hawks now just need to find a great running back and their offence should be set. Would also like to see Hawks go after Perci Harvin. Think he would go well with Housh.<P>Maybe Hawks could lure Warner in for an interview?? San Fran seems to be wooing him with great results.[/quote]<P>San Fran is stupid for going after Warner if it's true. He's old, and they run a ball control offense now. Why waste a year or two on that type of QB? Warner is even dumber for not signing. Anything around the 10-12 million mark is what he's worth to them. Yes, he's a 3 time superbowl QB, but HE'S 38. He's got at most 2 years left in the tank - no team is going to sign anyone, no matter how good, to massive deal when THEY'RE 38. Besides, where's he gonna go? AZ plays in a dome (where Warner statistically has had his best years), throwing to Fitz and Breaston and maybe Boldin if he stays. Where else would he go with those types of targets? Carolina or Houston fit, but do they really make sense? Carolina already has an over 35 QB who seems to fall short in big games, and Houston plays in the same division as the Titans and Colts - not exactly an easy division. <P>Stay in AZ Kurt. Take the money, swallow a bit of your pride, go get Big Red to another title game.Wed, 04 Mar 2009 08:46:45 GMTOlderDanhttp://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspx[quote][b]Matt54 (3/03/2009)[/b][hr][b]Jacobs[/b] is now a Buc. Good fit?[/quote]<br>do you mean ward?Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:59:37 GMTRoyhttp://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspxHoush a great fit for Hawks providing Hasslebeck can get his game in gear and stay healthy. Hawks now just need to find a great running back and their offence should be set. Would also like to see Hawks go after Perci Harvin. Think he would go well with Housh.</P><P>Maybe Hawks could lure Warner in for an interview?? San Fran seems to be wooing him with great results.Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:00:54 GMTMatt54http://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspx^ ? Brandon Jacobs resigned with NY...4 years, $25mil</P><P>TJ Housh now with Seattle. Good fit, they were desperate for a decent receiver. Seattle now a threat again to win the NFC West, provided they find a decent running back. </P><P>Trent Green with the Bucs only answers part of the question - he's QB of the week, but who's he going to throw to? I think Kellen Winslow went to them right? Interesting fit, him back in FLA. Dude's a f'ckin soldier.Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:32:30 GMTOlderDanhttp://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspxI find it very hard to believe that McDaniels (a former Pats coach) didn't initiate a lot of this trade talking. Of course he wanted Cassell.</P><P>In other news... Jacobs is now a Buc. Good fit?Tue, 03 Mar 2009 14:15:31 GMTMatt54http://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspxfrom what i understand, they (broncos) didnt initiate any trade talks, just listened to all proposals.<br><br>Cutler is just being a overdramatic.Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:32:43 GMTRoyhttp://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspxyeh, but the broncs really pissed off their franchise QB with those trade talks. Broncs already had an expolsive offence, no need to upset Cutler. The problem was always with the D and now with the big spending, looks like they could be a little more competative (if Cutler plays ball)Tue, 03 Mar 2009 08:01:14 GMTMatt54http://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspxchiefs and broncos out to make the afc west a little more competitive this season.<br><br>b-dawk, buckhalter, renaldo hill and jj arrington to the broncos.<br>cassell and vrabel to the chiefs.Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:52:59 GMTRoyhttp://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspx[quote][b]OlderDan (27/02/2009)[/b][hr]who exactly is the QB of the week going to throw to?</P><P>Trent Green is still serviceable - he'll latch on as a 3rd or 2nd string QB for the league minimum.[/quote]</P><P>I think you may have answered your question about QB of the week by saying T.Green serviceable, the Bucs will grab him! Tampa tends to be the team players go to to finish their careers, must be the warm weather!Sat, 28 Feb 2009 08:29:13 GMTMad Philly Fan!http://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspxShoulda traded Brooks for the first overall two years ago when they had the chance! They could've gotten a top flight QB for Gruden to ruin...</P><P>Cutting Dunn was insulting. He was the face of your franchise for years - let him retire as a Buc. Two decent receivers out too - who exactly is the QB of the week going to throw to?</P><P>Drew Bennett should've been cut 3 years ago when they signed the bum. Trent Green is still serviceable - he'll latch on as a 3rd or 2nd string QB for the league minimum.Fri, 27 Feb 2009 08:41:56 GMTOlderDanhttp://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspxThe Bucs cut;</P><P>RB Warrick Dunn</P><P>WR Joey Galloway</P><P>WR Ike Hilliard</P><P>LB Derrick Brooks</P><P>LB Cato June (only player of the 5 under 30)</P><P>The Rams cut;</P><P>WR Drew Bennett (30 years old)</P><P>QB Trent Green (38 years old)Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:18:47 GMTMad Philly Fan!http://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspxTampa cleaned houseThu, 26 Feb 2009 17:56:48 GMTPiphttp://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspxmarvin harrison no longer a colt...<br><br>[url]http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80ee60be&template=without-video-with-comments&confirm=true[/url]Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:47:30 GMTRoyhttp://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspxoof...<br><br>[quote]WR prospect Crabtree has stress fracture in foot[/quote]<br><br>[url]http://www.nfl.com/combine/story?id=09000d5d80eda910&template=without-video-with-comments&confirm=true[/url]Sun, 22 Feb 2009 04:43:18 GMTRoyhttp://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspxwarner is going to have another crack at it.Sun, 22 Feb 2009 02:37:41 GMTRoyhttp://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspxWell you selected wisely, intersting to note he averages more reception that the for mention receivers. Yes i admit i did over look some guys, but i would still place him in the top 10.</P><P>Hines wards has crossed the 1000 yard mark twice in the last 5 years so think its fair to say he doesnt rate that highly, yes he plays for a run first team, but so did roddy white this year. Tory Holt, yes agreeded i overlooked him. Marvin has faild to combine for 100 yards over his past to seasons, and the fact that the colts wont bring him back next year is a good sign he isnt in the top 10 (not to say reggie wayne overlooked by both of us isnt up ther). Steve smith, again agreeded top 5. Plax, well despit the addition of a speed hole to help him with the deep ball his league status leaves him out (this aside he hasnt consistenly produced high numbers. As for Marshall, white and calvin johnson, they are al young players with alot of potential to be among the best, 2 good years doesnt make you one of the elite players in the game, it is only in the last year or 2 that we have heard of larry fitzgeralds name being mention among the top 5 recievrs in the game, but he has been putting up big numbers for 5 years, not to mention player like michael clayton who show us that eary success can blow up.</P><P>So Fitz, Boldin, Wayne, Holt, Owens, Ocho cinco, Andre Johnson, Smith, Moss, Hosh are in my book the top 10 active receivers in recent years (in no particular order), yes im aware you can argue other guys in but these guys are all reasonable considerations.</P><P>Yes agreeded there is more than numbers when it comes to analysing guys, hoosh is 1 of 2 guys in this short list that is not even the number 1 target on their roster, so he has to compete to compile big numbers, not to mention this has all been done in a terribel football team, how did moss go when he was with a crap team? Yes he didnt have a quaterback of carson palmers calibre throwing to him, but hoosh didnt either when he was putting up solid numbers this season. </P><P>And lets face it off field issues plague receivers, hosh isnt steve 'ill break you face,' smith, Chad 'look at me' ocho cinco, plaxico 'i love guns,' Burres or Terrel, 'its all about me' Owens. He is just a very capable nfl wide out. Fri, 20 Feb 2009 23:40:15 GMTPiphttp://www.thebear.com.au/Topic18193-17-1.aspxProbably the 3rd set.</P><P>I'd like to think that though slowing down, Hines Ward, Torry Holt, and Marvin Harrison would all be up there. Not including (though numbers don't always tell the full story)</P><P>Plaxico Burress</P><P>Roddy White</P><P>Brandon Marshall</P><P>Steve Smith</P><P>Calvin JohnsonFri, 20 Feb 2009 17:18:49 GMTOlderDan