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 Posted 12/02/2008 12:46:04 AM
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I had a bit of a gander at some thread hear

and i read that over-the-top celebrations after sacking the QB or making a cruicial stop etc, is considered unsportsmanshio condcut and is fouled

i dont think this should be the case, i love seeing those guys jumping around, screaming at the crowd and all that

but its a fine line between being happy you did something good, and being an arragant bastard

are small celebrations allowed? like you jump once maybe twise, no smack talk and go jump on your teammates or something. and what about endzone dances/celebrations?

and also ready that its less brutal and excessive hitting is fouled, is that true too?

i think the celebration thing is mainly the african americans and just how they are, just a quirk of thiers and its quite funny at times

and any other differences?



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 Posted 12/02/2008 1:26:47 AM
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The unsportsmanlike penalties typically come into play when the celebration is over the top and/or is considered to incite another player.

Running into the endzone waving the football at the trailing defenders is a good example of what's not allowed.

Personally the whole thing has been blown way out of proportion on these forums, I've played 10 years and been flagged about 2 times, both deservedly so. Once for shoving the football in an opponents face after taking an interception, the other for a spike the bounced over a 3m high fence.

And your comment about it being a black thing (let's not hide behind some moniker here) couldn't be further from the truth. Take a look at Brett Lee taking a wicket, Valentino Rossi winning a Moto GP race, Lleyton Hewitt winning a big point, Willie Mason laying someone out in a rugby league game. Jeff Farmer kicking a goal in football.

Celebrating something on a sporting arena is nothing new and has nothing to do with race.


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 Posted 12/02/2008 6:44:23 AM
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i dont think this should be the case, i love seeing those guys jumping around, screaming at the crowd and all that


what crowd?
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 Posted 12/02/2008 9:23:42 AM
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keepthepeace (11/02/2008)
we had a spike that went over the fence after a TD. no flag required. let the ball boy get it and get a new ball in immediately. let that celebration occur.

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"When you score a touchdown you need to be respectful to your opponent. Jumping onto a fence brings undue attention and is not respectful to your opponents. It is also celebration that is excessive, unduly delays a game and running away from an official who may require the ball for the next play." SAGOA official blog - 2/12/07.

Whats the difference between running the ball away from an official and spiking the ball away from an official? Why would one draw a flag and not the other?

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 Posted 12/02/2008 6:18:16 PM
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BlueSteel (11/02/2008)
Whats the difference between running the ball away from an official and spiking the ball away from an official? Why would one draw a flag and not the other?

My only guess would be 'intent'. If the player throws the ball over the fence and doesn't retrieve it, then I would expect to see some yellow, however if a bad bounce from a spike causes the ball to shoot off over the fence (which the player did not expect) then the officials might overlook it (depending on the player of course.... right KTP? Tongue)

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 Posted 12/02/2008 7:09:27 PM
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i dont think this should be the case, i love seeing those guys jumping around, screaming at the crowd and all that


what crowd?

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 Posted 13/02/2008 4:48:06 AM
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Keepthepeace.

I can't reply to your PM because you inbox is full.

I can't work out if that was a question or a comment?

Either way it was your blog I quoted.

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 Posted 13/02/2008 9:25:41 AM
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KTP Thanks again for the PM but I can't reply until your inbox is emptied..

I think I got it. Spike = Good. Climb fence = Bad. Run away with ball = probably same a spike except... rare

In the same blog Dec 2, you wrote "While each case will be taken on its merits and how opponent players perceive the action..."

Just wondering how you guage how an opponent player receives an action?

Edited: 13/02/2008 9:30:32 AM by BlueSteel

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 Posted 15/03/2008 9:38:49 PM
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the biggest difference is that they train in high school football up to 4 times a day. as opposed to our 2 times a week.

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 Posted 20/03/2008 4:44:45 PM
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i agree with packers fan. the thread title is 'difference between here and america" and yet all you guys can talk about is penalties for celebrating.
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